[ROCKTOBER 4] darraghmac Appreciation Day

bobby zamora

Hope

http://forums.naimaudio.com/displayForumTopic/content/18180130516909910?nc=1&reply=18180130518701147#18180130518701147

hi fi forums! that's an idea you can take to the bank :)

whatever i'm accused of i deny

on another subject, I just discovered that Supermac's is opening up shop in Australia this year because lol diaspora

Ye wont know what hit ye

gotta help organise a work lunch next month, st patrick's day theme

help me steer clear of the usual cliches, big man

Hmmm

dont do it, blow the funds, the night before ring the ecb in a panic, try to convince them that the event is of systemic importance

Tbrr cliche is prob what's expected and theyll be disappointed not to get it, but what kind of tips were you lookin for

I'm working on the quiz element of the lunch (highly fought over, prize is cinema vouchers) and I'm trying to avoid questions like "what is a Shillelagh?"

btw some of my colleagues have already said "Irish food is too hard, maybe we can include some English dishes?"

Yes, give them something they can actually eat

proper irish food , cos i never answered this, would be lamb stew, bacon and cabbage, black pudding, guinness and whiskey, eh idk beyond that.

themes? shamrocks and green and gold, get somme uileann pipe music i spose

i mean it's gammy enough, you'd genuinely be better going for the cliches, get drunk and wear a green hat and whatever else ye think we do.

worrisome that my only real thread is in tis backwater tbh

whtob thread is full of bad news so i said here'd do for a personal update of hols in the sun eating cured meats fruits and cheese, reading by the pool and occasionally visiting sites of historical or architectural note. otoh my tablet stopped charging wtf. any questions?

tell us of these meats.

porcine in origin and prepared along the iberian fashion

I intend to eat several similar in October. Feel free to expand.

after you've eaten a few you certainly will amirite

well it was the only possible response wasnt it

cured meats AND cured fruits? explain

For Gallagher, the driving force behind the band Oasis during the 1990s, the literary industry is bound up with issues of class, arguing that "people who write and read and review books are fucking putting themselves a tiny little bit above the rest of us who fucking make records and write pathetic little songs for a living."

According to the Bookseller's Cathy Retzenbrink, Gallagher has identified an "incredibly serious point".

"He's saying what loads of people in this country think, but don't normally have a platform to say," Retzenbrink added. "There are vast amounts of people who feel this way, who do feel that people who are comfortable with words look down on them."

Still awesome, sad that when the mod powers become fully aware he will be the first against the wall

<3

with his "anti-music opinions" stance, darraghmac rails against the machine that not only celebrates him daily, but has made his career possible. this is something he shares with every thinker of integrity in history.

the best

er, i mean "the greatest", not the best

god bless all here but idk why the revive i've had better weeks

stfu please, not really for you to judge...

fair, fair

what about stew?

i'll post to the requisite in the next few mins

ok preferably the del boy falling etc thread

you got what you got. not my best work (nor his) but i have three assignments to start and finish before tuesday 6pm so there it is.

did this happen y/n

yes i posted it to the stewart lee thread

if you meant the assignments/exam then yes i handed in the skin of my teeth before the due date and i wrote the exam out on the seat of my pants

now im up doing next week's work because my neighbours (all sides) are disgusting savages who know how to work a washing machine but not fucking when

still? god

it's a combination of three things

thin walls
disgusting savagery
my anticipation of the combination of the above having me on edge at bedtime

anyway i am calm and centred, i am one with creation, i am thankful for this peaceful time in which to maintain an acceptable gpa -_-

anticipation is 98% of the grief imo

i.e. you turn into a huge ball of anxiety well before you're even at your front gate

darraghmod

never saw this portrait of schubert before but

http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/S/Franz-Schubert-9475558-1-402.jpg

Theres a certain somethin but idk erman from little prince still the benchmark

plus i've lost weight, thanks for not noticing

uh i totally did

Just means that now you are less of a man

If it came down to fisticuffs i would absolutely destroy your kid. And im not even saying it wont. (promise good for min. 5-6 years).

Not so trash talky now are ya

fair warning, he's a biter

Which one from Bachelors Walk? Wycherley?

I absolutely loved Bachelors Walk but it is very much A Product Of Its Time and idk if I would today so I havent rewatched.

Feel diaspora, esp those who spent a lot of holidays in Ireland as a child, are uncomfortably trapped - no doubt McDonagh got it from both sides and therefore a lot of his tin ear stems from overcompensating? And he is Irish - he is undoubtedly one of those people who’d have been born and raised in Ireland if not for economic migration. Don’t know if this would have made him quite the same writer though.

I wonder also about if there was the thing you see (lol how articulate I am) where emigrants are sort of frozen in time after leaving and miss out on the nuances and developments you wouldn’t if you were still living there. I might be projecting because I sometimes feel this way, though.

just want to say I apreesh dmac 🙂

heh ty ums and rb@u but i really only took half-notice of what thread that crucial wins post was in when i bumped at 5am

gyac, absolutely i get the trap that an irish person abroad- i think anyone away, really, even me in dublin to a certain extent- can fall into without any blame attached of having a postcard relationship with place. experiencing it through parents and doing the summers back home, more so again, sure.

ive cousins in what i would think are a very similar type relationship, london to irish parents and its v clichéd how and where the stuff sticks, the importance to them of ritual and cultural points that....fell away from cousins this side as we lived through change. very understandable stuff.

but all that said, that this is a version of irish that seems acceptable- and look i guess we all have our sore points, this must be one of mine- to write and put on and tour around the world and slap "mid nineties western ireland" on it is something i take a strong allergy to tbh.

its cod ireland and whether the fault is in mcdonagh as a writer (frankly i suspect so) or whether this is a representation of ireland hed be happy to sit and talk to a journalist in nyc and insist is his truth is somewhat imo beside the point, rly

friel was writing a more modern rural ireland in the early 60s, like.

sure, mcdonagh is writing broad strokes, but my objection to the level of apery goes beyond "arah its doesnt have to be a documentary".

im overanalysing it, surely, but the question of why this, of anything, is what went superstar from the irish writing scene in the past two decades is one that goes beyond "he can write a decent quip" imo

I’m not disagreeing with you, I just understand where he’s coming from I guess. You see this to a much greater extent with Irish-Americans and the way they cling to things like corned beef and Irish dancing and stuff that died out in the late 19th century. Literally. (Why they insist on clinging to St Patty’s is another thing entirely).

You read old Flann and he was bang otm now, today, probably tomorrow. I mean, the “plain people of Ireland” still cuts! and even that is so beyond McDonagh. I do think he writes well though, when you strip this shite away? The issue is that there’s so much of it.

Anyway, Cruiskeen Lawn though! None of this sounds like anyone itt, ofc.

A LADY lecturing recently on the Irish language drew attention to the fact (I mentioned it myself as long ago as 1925) that, while the average English speaker gets along with a mere 400 words, the Irish-speaking peasant uses 4,000.

Considering what most English speakers can achieve with their tiny fund of noises, it is a nice speculation to what extremity one would be reduced if one were locked up for a day with an Irish-speaking bore and bereft of all means of committing murder or suicide.

My point, however, is this. The 400/4,000 ration is fallacious; 400/400,000 would be more like it. There is scarcely a single word in the Irish (barring, possibly, Sasanach) that is simple and explicit.

Apart from words with endless shades of cognate meaning, there are many with so complete a spectrum of graduated ambiguity that each of them can be made to express two directly contrary meanings, as well as a plethora of intermediate concepts that have no bearing on either

...

But what is the use? One could go on and on without reaching anywhere in particular.

Your paltry English speaker apprehends sea-going craft through the infantile cognition which merely distinguishes the small from the big.

If it’s small, it’s a boat, and if it’s big it’s a ship. In his great book An tOileánach,however, the uneducated Tomás Ó Criomhthain uses, perhaps, a dozen words to convey the concept of carrying super-marinity – árthrach long, soitheach, bád, naomhóg, bád raice, galbhád, púcán and whatever you are having yourself.

The plight of the English speaker with his wretched box of 400 vocal beads may be imagined when I say that a really good Irish speaker would blurt out the whole 400 in one cosmic grunt. In Donegal there are native speakers who know so many million words that it is a matter of pride with them never to use the same word twice in a life-time. Their life (not to say their language) becomes very complex at the century mark; but there you are.
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i think nakh pbuh may have posted some very interesting stuff in the middle of some long forgotten thread about how and where irish-scotch culture in particular- actually iirc its in particular-particular ulster-schotchtch- travelled in packets and stuck in their new places with specifically traceable cultural touchstones but sprung thence as a new genus in its own new conditions, and i think thats what we're saying here

amerikay tends, at least imo, to veer btwn quiet man and sayyyyy roddy doyle

i think that-if i think of them as the kilburn irish i hope that doesnt come across as having any negative connotations, these are my people- the kilburn irish have a very definite idea of rural ireland that-

will we say mcgahern? we will, maybe-

strikes me, when i mix with them as i do in their own place (london irish is a fascinating culture to me) or as they return to my place as tantalisingly close to quantifiable, tho im sure wed have a fine row in nailing down the characteristics.

and beyant all that, i would still say that mcdonaghs innismore is worthy of a flann to tear it to pieces

right, breakfast

this is good stuff deems and while nothing to contribute at the time these posts are worthy of appreciation, have it off me imo