The Shining

turds you in atl? has plaza on ponce gone digital?

Yeah it has, but they can still project film and they still have some pretty nice 35mm repertory showings. The Tara went digital last year too.

i can't actually think of any full lines from it at all besides "i was cured all right".

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Ponder for a moment "balls" asking a question of "turds," OK back to the thread now.

Anyway, HAL's lines in 2001 all pretty quotable. "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave" shows up a lot, right?

the most useful line from 2001, i've found, is "this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. goodbye."

ugh just remembered "the ole in-out" which has disturbingly stuck in my head ever since.

i always hear that in buscemi's voice.

I prefer to conduct most conversations with unpleasant people as if I'm HAL.

i can see you're very upset about this. i really think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.

The oysters-and-snails line from Spartacus is sort of quotable.

trying to say HAL's lines out loud really drives home how good the guy who voiced him was

totally!

there's that part in manhattan where michael murphy tells diane keaton they have to break up and diane keaton says "yeah. i could tell by the way your voice sounded over the phone. very authoritative. like the pope, or the computer in 2001."

HAL's dying monologue is seriously upsetting, espec. the moment when he goes 'i'm a...fraid' for the last time and suddenly his personality's gone forever and he's back to reciting his first words.

bawled at that as a kid.

dave.

stop.

stop, dave.

My mind is going.

dai-sy

dai-sy

I can feel it.

ogod had forgotten my mind is going

Yeah that is the best. Totally amazing scene.

The "this conversation can serve no purpose anymore" is probably one of the most chilling lines ever for me because it's like he retreats into this realm of pure logic--beyond the reach of any emotional appeal or suffering.

for awhile i was convinced voice of HAL was also voice of KITT.

xp yeah and then as soon as he's existentially threatened the disconnected unconcern is replaced w bargaining like a psychopath: "i know i've made some very poor decisions recently. but i can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal."

Yeah it's a brilliant reversal--these beseechings and denials of communication.

people complain about stiff performance from human actors in 2001, but keir dullea really brought it in the confrontation scene.

Amazing Kubrick could pull all this together while faking the moon landing!

the advent of CG set moon landing-faking technology back 50 jar-jars.

Ppl complaining about stiff acting in 2001 are engaging in epic point-missing.

the scene where hal kills the scientists is p hard to watch too. just the timing of the cuts to his eye. and the way the "central nerv. system" graph starts to freak out in the last few seconds, once everything else has flatlined.

I totally didn't believe those apes hated those other apes

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Personal preference, but wooden acting almost always makes a difference for me--horror film, art film, 2001. Which is not a knock on Dullea; I think he's fine. I do find William Sylvester a little wooden.

was he heywood floyd? my problem with heywood was he just comported himself in such a way that screamed 1960s. he'd be great on madmen.

also gary lockwood's parents were like out of some betty crocker commercial.

Yeah, Heywood Floyd. Did you mean 1950s? He seems about 10 years out of date to me. Anyway, HAL more than makes up for merely adequate performances elsewhere.

But the acting is supposed to be wooden! Like, it's almost as if the people are supposed to be robotic, and the computer is supposed to be human!

That's a reasonable argument. Sometimes even when I know the filmmaker achieved exactly what he/she set out to do, it still doesn't work for me on a personal level.

yeah the way heywood talks is very 50s, but his mannerisms are like james bond managing the beatles.

re: wooden -- the acting's not very wooden at all! they're just not overacting. but you can tell dave is majorly pissed and frightened at the end.

wooden acting is more like liam neeson absolutely not giving a shit all through phantom menace.

i like when hal says GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN and dave who's been in this state of totally anxious horror while committing the second and actually more gruesome act of human violence in the movie snaps his eyes up like WTF

yeah that's a great bit of misdirection

kubrick definitely knew how to get what he wanted out of actors -- he just wanted such weird things. the languid underacting in 2001 makes for a bizarre contrast with ACO, where everyone's running around making gargoyle faces.

Maybe "wooden"'s the wrong word for why I don't like Sylvester; it's that he just seems like an actor reading lines, putting little inflections here and there that are supposed to sound casual but just sound fussy to me. With Dullea, no--I don't feel like I'm watching an actor, but rather exactly the character he's supposed to be.

It's one performance. I could name many great ones in other Kubrick films: Hayden in The Killing, a few in Paths of Glory, Mason in Lolita, etc.

everyone in strangelove's amazing -- weird to think that for a while kubrick wanted sellers to play everyone, including slim pickens.

scott in strangelove is like once-in-a-century good.

had to keep being pushed further over the top, apparently. like nicholson.

What's the best female performance in a Kubrick film? It comes down to Lyon, Winters, Duvall, Kidman...and maybe Berenson. Winters for laughs, otherwise I'd split on Duvall (love her when she's terrified) and Kidman.