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yeah I tried to watch it, it's v nice to look at but it sort of lulled me into intermittent napping

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

it's a vice grip of fate played out against a gorgeously indifferent universe kinda boring.

ryan, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

Calling a Kubrick movie boring is way rookie.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

it's definitely a slow burner (tho never boring imo) with a really enormous pay-off.

ryan, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

I think Barry Lyndon is hilarious, but others may disagree

d-_-b (mh), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

The compositions in it are pretty crazy. There probably isn't another movie that looks like it (except other Kubesies)

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I wouldn't say it was boring. it just required more extended attentiveness than I was willing to offer, lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

wasn't barry lyndon intentionally funny? i lol'd at lyndon.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

I think a lot of people think it's more of a tragedy than a tragicomedy

d-_-b (mh), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

definitely a lot of black humor.

ryan, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

I think I was into the bleak humor enough that I laughed when the insufferable main character's insufferable kid died

d-_-b (mh), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

Narrator has among the most jocose-toned delivery in any movie.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Actually, I am stifling a chuckle right now. Man, that kid had it coming.

d-_-b (mh), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

the dumbest, most laffable theorist in room 237 thinks barry lyndon was boring. i present this fact without further comment.

zvookster, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.minus.com/ibcP26So4cbd5M.gif

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha

zvookster, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

Barry Lyndon is AWESOME. If you think it's boring you must think 2001 is a documentary of paint drying.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

I thought that was weird too -- nothing boring about Barry Lyndon unless you find beauty boring (and if so, f u)

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

i don't get how anyone could find barry lyndon boring and not hate all of kubrick's other films, too.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, there's a lot of things you don't get. Keep the change kid.

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

"kid"

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link

david thomson says barry lyndon is the first film that ever sent him to sleep.

i watched it again recently and was struck by how it's v much kubrick's version of lawrence of arabia, complete w/triumphant first half and downer second half. it no longer feels as ponderous as maybe it once did, now that 'slow cinema' is a thing; kubrick's favourite compositional trick here is to open on a small detail and then zoom out - there's a surprising amount of zoom used throughout, moreso than in any other kubrick irrc, and that alone makes it quite zippy.

the ending is p devastating

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

you guys 'lol' at a lot of stuff that really doesn't merit it

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but that wasn't one of them

balls, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

love barry lyndon fwiw (easily fave of post-2001 kubrick) but not befuddled at idea some might find it boring or slow or that some ppl might enjoy a clockwork orange or the shining (nevermind strangelove or lolita) alot more which is to say at all. brace yrself: i've also come across ppl that call themselves scorsese fans but don't like kundun.

balls, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

this has been remarked often, but it's still remarkable to how each of Kubrick's movies after 2001 was at the very a "cult" success and often widely disliked on its release, and yet every single one of them (even EWS!) has had some lasting cultural impact except Barry Lyndon--which oddly unique for Kubrick in not having any of those "broad" moments that would carry beyond the context of the film itself.

ryan, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

i always chuckle when i hear sarabande. yr right -- no good "here's johnny" catchphrases in barry lyndon.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

all of them except barry lyndon are awash in violence and/or sex - always a market for those (if not necessarily a mass market). clockwork orange and barry lyndon managed to get best pic nods fwiw. i'm old enough to remember when the shining was regarded as a disappointment (no oscar nods period), and that full metal jacket was a hit but overshadowed by platoon's huge success a few months prior and the subsequent glut of nam pics. ews' place in the culture seems almost removed from the actual movie and tied to what ppl knew and wrongly expected from teh marketing, i'm not sure it's been completely rehabilitated and at the same time i'm not sure it needed to be ie i think opinion is as split as it ever was though you may hear pro-ews more as they're the only ones who still care (the movie wasn't successful enough for anyone to continue to feel the need to tear it down).

balls, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

Parodies and homages to the orgy scene still abound. There was a whole rap video which was basically a caricature of it. Can't remember who it was though.

ryan, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

it's halloween so i'm watching this tonight, for the first time since letmecheck march. (i fucking MISSED the 35mm screening that happened here a couple weeks ago, which is just let's not even talk about that.) i'll try to keep any posts brief and calm.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

My friend makes mocking references to fidelio all the time.

I haven't seen Lyndon since I was like 15 fwiw. I was holding out for long time to see a film print, but WB apparently no longer loans out film prints, which means Kubrick will basically never be projected on film again. Guess I should check out the blu-ray.

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

how would you guys rank the kubrick movies in terms of quotability?
i'm thinking full metal jacket would win, but quotability would otherwise correlate pretty highly with "best regarded"

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

clockwork orange will have a rabid dormy following until our civilization is finally and mercifully reduced to ash.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

strangelove is pretty high. depending on the breaks.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

2001, clockwork, and full metal jacket top 3 in quotability is my guess though spartacus is a dark horse there

balls, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

blu-ray of BL looked pretty good to me but I can't vouch for what the correct aspect ratio is supposed to be.

Most quotable for my generation seems to be The Shining and FMJ. Knew a lot of creeps really into FMJ actually!

ryan, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

If I'm gonna get my balls blown off for a word... my word is poontang

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

clockwork isn't so much quoted as just generally referenced, or paraphrased, but i guess that's the case w a lot of "quotable" movies. helps that it has its own patois.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

WB apparently no longer loans out film prints, which means Kubrick will basically never be projected on film again.

jeez i didn't know that. i saw it on film just a few years back. guess there'll be some scratchy reels loaned out from private collections tho.

what's quoted much from clockwork?

zvookster, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

strangelove has "he'll see everything! he'll see the big board!" and "you can't fight in here gentlemen this is the war room" and the president/premier phone call and everything slim pickens says (personal favorite: "i reckon y'all wouldn't be human beings if you didn't have some purty strong PERSONAL FEELINS about NOOKLEAR COMBAT") and of course our precious bodily fluids. you don't hear any of those things as much as you hear I'M SORRY DAVE but there are a lot more of them.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

messed up that attempted transcription of the way slim pickens says nuclear

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

i bet every white house chief of staff has cracked "you can't fight in here, this is the war room!" in the actual war room, thinking he's the first person to make the reference.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

"droogs" from clockwork but especially the image of his eyes being forced open.

ryan, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

And the white outfits with codpieces. I am using "quotability" very broadly obv.

ryan, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

"steers and queers" and "what is your general malfunction" and "me love you long time" all very popular when i was growing up

Mordy, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

yeah clockwork's imagery and nadsat in general gets refed all the time but i can't actually think of any full lines from it at all besides "i was cured all right".

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

david thomson says barry lyndon is the first film that ever sent him to sleep.

i watched it again recently and was struck by how it's v much kubrick's version of lawrence of arabia, complete w/triumphant first half and downer second half. it no longer feels as ponderous as maybe it once did, now that 'slow cinema' is a thing; kubrick's favourite compositional trick here is to open on a small detail and then zoom out - there's a surprising amount of zoom used throughout, moreso than in any other kubrick irrc, and that alone makes it quite zippy.

the ending is p devastating

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, October 31, 2012 5:12 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark

Cool post btw. I'd probably be way more into a detailed reading of Lyndon than I would of The Shining, just because it seems to get examined less often.

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

"i'm siiiiinging in the rain..."

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

Most quoted: 1) Strangelove, 2) Full Metal Jacket, 3) The Shining.

clemenza, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link


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