thread of miguel

this... isn't true

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:14 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Don't Look Back", "Use Me", "The Thrill", and "Arch & Point" totally are, and even "Where's The Fun In Forever" and "Candles In The Sun" lean in that direction for at least part of their durations

"Arch & Point" will always be my favorite: sexually-charged ballet metaphors, bare power pop elements, plopping percussion, and guitar coda.

yeah, it's seemed obv for a while that "Adorn" has a good chance of topping the 77 this year.

Let's do it right this EOY season.

if i was gonna try and get an alternative-to-adorn camp going i'd think "do you..." had the best chance

not that i'd vote for any track on this even if i liked "adorn"

this... isn't true

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:14 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Don't Look Back", "Use Me", "The Thrill", and "Arch & Point" totally are, and even "Where's The Fun In Forever" and "Candles In The Sun" lean in that direction for at least part of their durations

― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:20 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If they're bombastic stadium rock, they certainly don't sound like anyone else's bomstadrock.

I think for me it's like... Adorn > A&P > Do You > Use Me > The Thrill > Where's The Fun > KD > Don't Look Back > PIM > How Many Drinks > Candles

If you're talking about the ILX poll then Adorn has as good a chance as any - he went top 10, possibly top 5, last year and his profile is higher now. Also 2012 has been kinda low on big unifying singles, Call Me Maybe notwithstanding.

Bombastardtock

sounds like a late nineties Chem Bros track.

not that i'd vote for any track on this even if i liked "adorn"

― lex pretend, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 9:22 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Now I know why Kanyetothe made a thread about Lex

If they're bombastic stadium rock, they certainly don't sound like anyone else's bomstadrock.

― Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:24 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I dunno, it's all pretty Purple Rain as mentioned upthread (which is good! usually when people "sound like Prince" that's not the Prince they rip off), but not slavishly

I'm not really sure the bass bumps in Adorn really fit the song and sound totally out of place in the context of the rest of the album but the songwriting and the performance and everything else about the track are straight 10/10 so it barely matters.

adorn definitely could win ilx this year. adorn, call me maybe, inspector norse and... idk what else, seems like a pretty weak year

Prince might be bombastic and stadium and rock but I wouldn't call him "bombastic stadium rock". The distinction makes sense in my head at least.

Yeah I think it'll come down to Adorn vs CMM. Gangnam Style will take a lot of punters' money but won't get the votes. I'm probably missing something obvious though.

it wouldn't be the same at all with out that big synth bass xxp

yeah "Sure Thing" was #6 on our poll last year (and only #68 on P&J, the fuckers)

(Looooooooooooooooove Sooooooooooooooooooosa)

which dawn single is going to get ilx traction? "pretty wicked things" i presume

obv in a just world "pretty wicked things" would have had the real-world impact that "adorn" did but oh well

If I vote for a Dawn track it will be "Black Lipstick"

I don't really rate "Pretty Wicked Things"

;_;

nicki is going to suffer from vote-splitting too :(

"Automatic," "Black Lipstick," or "Scripture" for me.

I dunno, it seems like it's trying to do too much with too little xxp

it does a huge amount with a huge amount

i won't vote for any armor on song because i'll vote for armor on, so...

If they're bombastic stadium rock, they certainly don't sound like anyone else's bomstadrock.

They do and they don't, I mean the vocals and most of the songwriting are't but the guitar tones and the general ambience feel like pure 00s stadium rock, hence me mentioning Coldplay upthread. I mean that's fine, the guitar sounds and general ambience are usually the best thing about those records, it's just everything else that blows so well done Miguel for finding an acceptable context for them.

I prefer "86" as far as songs from the upcoming album go

it does a huge amount with a huge amount

i won't vote for any armor on song because i'll vote for armor on, so...

― lex pretend, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's with the radicalization on this issue? i generally think the shipley doctrine is a good one but it doesn't apply iirc to huge singles (like adorn as you mentioned before, not really the case with dawn)

don't really get the purple rain comparisons either

Not trying to troll, b/c I know this is sacred around here, but has Armor On lost some of its luster for anyone else? (uh, asking for a friend...)

It's a question of approach not actual sound, I mean I can't imagine Prince recording anything like this album. But Miguel's found a way of making modern stadium rock work with modern R&B that's similar to what Purple Rain managed for the 80s.

Not trying to troll, b/c I know this is sacred around here, but has Armor On lost some of its luster for anyone else?

NO

AOTY unhesitatingly and still ridiculously far ahead of everything else

MDC otm

is dawn gonna place in the singles? "faith" would be my one vote

nicki is going to suffer from vote-splitting too :(

― lex pretend, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:36 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if there's one thing nicki doesn't suffer from in 2012 it's too many good songs

It's faded for me -- the space in the arrangements which sounded novel in June now sounds like a way to hide a couple unfinished songs -- but no so's it would leave my top twenty.

i haven't listened to it in a long time... i should revisit

i'll def have "stupid hoe" pretty high

Not trying to troll, b/c I know this is sacred around here, but has Armor On lost some of its luster for anyone else? (uh, asking for a friend...)

― Evan R, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:43 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah it's cool but at this point i'm more interested in seeing what the new one does

nicki's best moments in 2012 hit the sweet spot of being great public pop AND great personal favourites that i ended up playing on loop - i could legit vote for "stupid hoe", "starships" (YES) and "the boys" if it wasn't for my one-track-per-artist rule

Gun Shot >>> everything else.

Not to make this a nicki thread but I remain upset that gunshot never became a huge summer single.

posted a photo on instagram tonight of him in the studio with beyonce

Huh, I assumed Dawn Richard was a British thing since the only place I've ever come across her name is the Singles Jukebox.

But it's been established that I don't know shit, so.

No, no, no. She's an American r&b singer who was in Diddy Dirty Money and Danity Kane. Sounds like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWBnNOk1_Vs

Oh I've heard her (b/c of the Jukebox), just didn't know her provenance.

Kaleidoscope Dream is prob going to be in my Top 3 at this point, maybe even be my number one - it's got like 5 of my favourite songs this year.

just couldn't get into the Dawn Richard record at all though. :/