more like vomiting reflex amirite
― Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
DJP you're a singer, in what universe is Hadley not an infinitely better singer than Simon LeBon
this argument only works in a universe where "True" is the only Spandau Ballet song
"Gold" has a completely atrocious melodic choice in the verses that is exacerbated by the wholly unmusical way Hadley sings it and "She Loves Like Diamond" should be retitled "He Moans Like Bitchmode"
"The Reflex" is a dumb song but is brighter, catchier and more interesting than any of the Spandau songs I just listened to and "Union of the Snake" is one of the best singles of the 80s.
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
Hadley doesn't dance. Le Bon does.
Hadley 1Le Bon 0
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
u.r.rite.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
LeBon does that thing where it sounds like he's smiling while he sings, like every note is being shaped by how he wants to look while he sings - fantastic "personality"
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
let me make my position clear on Duran Duran, they suck balls, not in the good sense of sucking balls. thank you based Kemp
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
My impatience with Union of the Snake stems from the sound of those galumphing synths
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
Hadley sounds like he is "officially singing"
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
... that is like "basic singing technique 101"?
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
We all should read
http://images.harpercollins.co.uk/hcwebimages/HCCOVERS/049100/049195-FC222.jpg
― pretty even gender split (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
Union of the Snake" is one of the best singles of the 80s...for me to poop on
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
guys, guys, they're all shit
― chow mein kampf (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
"Through The Barricades" is very nice sounding though, I will grant you that
ps: Hadley is also doing the "sing through a smile thing" here
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
"She Loves Like Diamond" should be retitled "He Moans Like Bitchmode"
Release this under your neo industrial/EBM pseudonym.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
Is that his name?
Gary "I know this much" Kemp?
xpost xpost xpost blimey, this thread is BUSY!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
duran is better cos they begat the power station who in turn begat some like it hot and that one song pisses great jets of hot foaming piss over all these terrible spandau things
― Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
some like it smelling like a can of hot shit amirite
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
I should note re: Kemp book that there are selections online to read:
http://www.amazon.com/Know-This-Much-Soho-Spandau/dp/000732331X#reader_B002TU1QK2
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
well Robert Palmer is a much much better singer than either LeBon or Hadley, we'd better be able to agree on that
ps: the gallumphing synths in UotS are part of what make it awesome
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
The opening two paragraphs are about nothing but his terrible fashion choices!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
Hadley is also doing the "sing through a smile thing" here
lol otm. I don't care if it's good technique, it's terrible, it makes them sound like they're going out of their way to drain their lines of feeling. which in LeBon's case makes sense tho because if you have any feelings about those lyrics then lol @ u, whereas w/Hadley-Kemp there is an appropriate feeling in response to the total violation of the signifier i.e. terror
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
Robert Palmer is a better singer than Andy Taylor is a guitarist
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
today marks the first time I have ever heard someone speak fondly of "some like it hot"
aero, when Christgau dismissed Duran for writing "lyrics that rearrange received language from several levels of discourse into a noncommital private doggerel," he really means Gary Kemp.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
I don't care if it's good technique, it's terrible
I'm going to preserve this in amber
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
xpost And Duran*2 too.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
also no one ever listened to Duran Duran because of lyrical quality; it was bright-sounding New Wave stream-of-consciousness pop music where the sounds were much more important than the actual words, which is why the song "Union of the Snake" actually has the words "union of the snake" in it
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
I think we just need to go for it here and link up all the videos, so in batches of three:
"Gold"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntG50eXbBtc
"True"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR8D2yqgQ1U
"Only When You Leave"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlLCC_gF8QY
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
actually I think the closest DD came to a lyrically coherent song was "I Don't Want Your Love"
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
"Lifeline"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJjMqsGk07Q
"Communication"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-QqRewb7V8
"Instinction"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PebH4X097Lg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
like I can see how it might be ok if you can't understand what people are singing, but when your line is "the union of the snake is on the climb" and you sound like you're actually singing "IBM stock split two for one yesterday, I'm rich" then your technique is balls whether it's the recommended one or no
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
NED GOD DAMMIT I WAS ENJOYING THE DISCUSSION AND NOW IT'S A BUNCH OF YOUTUBES
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
"Narrative Coherence in Duran Duran" is a course taught by vocalist and noted musicologist D@n Perry, offered once a year at Boston University.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
My apologies, aero. But the evidence must be presented to the assembled. (I do love your IBM stock line there.)
"Chant No. 1"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRN96eSMbFU
"To Cut a Long Story Short"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE2sCISQmpE
"The Freeze"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ZCX21VsQc
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but "voices in your body comin' through on the radio-ho-ho" is awesome and you know it
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
well first off, a stock split would not increase your net worth at all because the stock price is halved in order to keep the valuation constant
secondly, it absolutely sounds like he's saying "The Union of the Snake is on the climb", it's the next line that's unintelligible but that's okay because everyone is just sitting there going "wtf is the union of the snake" and not paying attention
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
not "INSTANTLY" increase, that should say
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
"Union of the Snake" sounded very, very weird on upstate NY top 40 radio when it debuted.
"Musclebound"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08M-9kHB_20
"Paint Me Down"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmKCnmQx4jw
"She Loved Like Diamond"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9JxbTQ5SPg
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
GO AWAY
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
really "Rio" is the only classic-era Duran Duran song I hate but that's mostly because of a dude in college who would play it three or four times at every Glee Club party
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
Wait, every time without fail? That's insane.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
I have never SBd Ned but winging into a discussion and forcing me to change my prefs to show videos as links is really pushing it
xp lol Rio is one of 3 Durhan Durhan songs I'll ride for
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
Was a comma missing, or have you nearly SBd Ned before?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
Durhan Durhan
My god, middle school flashbacks.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
YES IT IS
he also did this with the MTV Dance Mix that had "Now That We Found Love" mixed into "Good Vibrations" but that was okay
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
I don't really like "Rio" either but only because "Hungry Like The Wolf," "New Moon on MOnday," "The Reflex," "Planet Earth," "Notorious" and "Careless Memories" are 9's or 10's.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
that MTV Party To Go volume is ALWAYS in my car!
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
It's nice to see someone else stand up for "Notorious," actually. That album's surprisingly good.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
Alfred knows what's up (although I'd sub "Girls On Film" for "New Moon on Monday" and "I Don't Want Your Love" for "Careless Memories")
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
their second best studio album
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link