Guns n Roses: Critical Rehab

4) axl still luvs u

5) knows how u feel inside

did GNR ever perform 'one in a million' live?

6) MAYBE SOMEDAAAAAY

GNR really doesn't have one song that is not hilarious in some way or another

Best band ever. Sometimes.

Velvet Revolver would have been a thousand times better with Izzy & Duff doing vox vs stinky Scott Weiland.

I can attest I would have at least listened to a song or two if this happened

Sebastian Bach was in the running for a while as well, if I'm not mistaken. Could have been interesting as well.

kinda like Jane's Addiction in that regard. They're either AMAZING or all kinds of wtf

did GNR ever perform 'one in a million' live?

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, October 29, 2012 10:51 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, at CBGB's

Would have been great if the almost-existed Izzy/Duff/Slash band had called themselves 'N.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAveatgFyPs

Another mindblowing Wikipedia fun fact: The first half of Appetite is the "Guns" side, where all the songs are about drugs, violence, and city life. The second half is the "Roses" side, which is all about women and sex. Never noticed that!

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Oh wow! I used to know that (but I threw out my cassette tapes)

Another mindblowing Wikipedia fun fact: The first half of Appetite is the "Guns" side, where all the songs are about drugs, violence, and city life. The second half is the "Roses" side, which is all about women and sex. Never noticed that!

― Poliopolice, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 12:49 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^from those same sessions, but never released, is a rock opera based upon Kant's "The Critique of Pure Reason"

haha

^from those same sessions, but never released, is a rock opera based upon Kant's "The Critique of Pure Reason"

Was eventually released as "My World" on UYI

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2012/10/30/axl-rose-on-gnr-music-more/1669329/

Supermodel girlfriend Stephanie Seymour and original Guns guitarist Slash and bassist Duff McKagan "did more damage to my ability as a writer. To those three, it was all crap. It beat me down so much. At the time of the (Use Your Illusion) tours, Slash and Duff said, 'You're an idiot, you're a loser.' I didn't write for years. I felt I was hindered for a very long time. I was also trying to figure out what I wanted to say, when it's right to be venting and when you're digging a bigger hole. Lyrics on Chinese took a long time."

I have my doubts.

Axl bought a zoo!

i don't have any doubts that the lyrics took a long time. every account of making the album was like 'we worked on the basic tracks for that song for years before we heard axl sing on it.'

That quote is a weird thing to say too, because he has a number of songs on the UYI albums in which he was the only credited writer, including at least 3 (Dead Horse, November Rain, Estranged) that were released as singles. xxxpost

oh, and "Yesterdays" too!

I think the discussion was more like "Hey Axl these are great lyrics but do we really need an overdub of 'Cool Ranch Dressing?'"

Yeah I have a feeling it's more that Axl has a weird way of interpreting feedback/criticism of any kind. Or conversations in general. Dude is hella paranoid in that regard, it seems.

Like you see versions of conversations repeated by different band members and Axl's always the one interpreting it as 'they all said I sucked so I fired them' and the parties are like 'we just told axl he should keep working on the lyrics, what he had was a really good start'

poor axl!
http://imgur.com/Sjycm.jpg

HAHA

from the way Slash's book told it, it sounded like Axl kinda holed up and did most of the UYI vocals away from the rest of the band and they didn't really hear much until the album was done and mixed. so if they were insulting him on the following tour it was probably because he was delaying every show for hours.

Maybe if Axl had just spent a little longer on the "Chinese Democracy" lyrics it would have been a huge smash.

Because it was the lyrics that held it back.

Heard Axl recorded the vocals one syllable at a time.

I;n sure Axl thinks they rushed Chinese Democracy out and it's not really finished

still waiting for Izzy's memoir.

He actually spent a lot of time recording one syllable per private press LP, then had DJ Shadow sample it. Then in the end it wasn't what he wanted, so he just used ProTools.

Schedule was so behind that the "Chinese Democracy" released were just the demos. You should have heard what Axl wanted it to sound like, had the label just shown a little ... patience.

yeah can we please have an Izzy bio. Pleeeeease.

I ordered Ju Ju Hounds album, should be showing up tonight :D
It's only available as an import, apparently. Not v expensive. I guess it went OOP in the US?

I saw a review on Amazon calling that album the 90s "Exile on Mainstreet"

I listened to it for the first time the other day and I was shocked by how good it is (upthread I think?). I'd heard it was good, and it has a lot of good/glowing reviews but I was still kinda skeptical. But yeah, it's the real deal. Verrrrrrrrry stones. ie my wheelhouse, lol

"Shuffle It All" got a lil MTV rotation, i asked for (and received) the CD for Christmas 1992.

Wow, just came across this interesting audio-- Izzy's isolated track from "Welcome to the Jungle"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUSFOxhxtLI&feature=related

Izzy album, the first one, iirc, is no better or worse than the first couple of Black Crowes albums.

What I love about the guitars on "Appetite" is that they are so, so far from the virtuoso precision of the day. They're sloppy but awesome.

don't know the albums but BC were a pretty killer singles act in that run

They sort of approach as Izzy, actually. Stones-y riffs, vibe over precision, etc.

Same sort, that is.

The first couple of Black Crowes records are good. No problem with that comparison, though there's more early Aerosmith sound in the Ju Ju Hounds.

Stones/solo Keef by way of Black Crowes, yeah I'll buy that.

So... I have a lingering question from my youth... When Axl enjoins us to feel his serpentine, is he like talking about his dick and stuff