best 1992 rap album besides The Chronic

nah, you shouldn't, says who

cool, good luck expressing opinions about rap that can only be interpreted as a rigidly consistent aesthetic worldview

aw c'mon i was just joshin. you can't say "eh don't like it...but it's not about x and you know it", and then when I try to guess what it could be get mad about me boxing you in. you're not dogmatic, you appreciate wacky voices, got it.

yeah it's no big deal. just thought "Some of us aren't as hard as Whiney G Weingarten and some dude" was a pointless, reductive response to the guys who dared to not be totally in love w/ the Phracyde.

I like Labcabincalifornia better than Bizarre Ride.

I do think that Whiney likes to pretend he's harder than ILX strawman

no doubt. didn't do that at all here, though?

didn't know we were starting fresh

need to wait til Whiney does that thing he does in every rap thread before calling him out on it, got it

positive k

Diamond D or Showbiz & AG

Diamond D

haha no granny you're supposed to be chill and gracious on the rare occasion that whiney doesn't do that in a rap thread

The singles from a lot of these were amazing, even if the album as a whole was spotty (Da Lench Mob and Das EFX, for example).

I've always felt this way about The Chronic, honestly.

Out of this list I've probably listened to Whut?, Predator, Daily Operation, and Bizarre Ride the most but not sure which one I'd pick. Probably Pharcyde just for nostalgia's sake.

holy crap, i've only maybe heard three of these

voting ganksta nip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PLYbJ7p0Rw

see also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwS77v12GFU

Gang Starr just ahead of Redman.

I've always felt this way about The Chronic, honestly.

I like The Chronic a lot but there are five or six records on this list I enjoy more.

I remember always laughing at the line on Kizz My Black Azz when MC Ren uses his hardest, angriest voice to shout "I'm sick of rappers using live instruments on the stage / SAVE THAT SHIT FOR PARADES"!

looool

i should take the time to point out that the "best album besides" conceit in no way presumes that the excluded album is everyone's favorite, it's just to encourage more interesting results and discussion

Xodus for me, I will probably be the only vote there but I loved that stuff

It's crazy how old most of these albums sound now. The Chronic is the only album that could work as some sort of blueprint still. Unless, of course, Romney wins the election and there's a manichaean funk revival.

well this is the end of the era right - '92 is the year of the Gilbert O'Sullivan lawsuit, and production styles shift over to a less sample-based aesthetic - which Dre was out ahead of, right? or not? heads can correct me but that's my understanding, there's a big shift underway in '92 toward basically making the stuff from scratch instead of building from parts

the law was definitely impacting the music at that point but a pretty huge amount of popular rap was sample-driven up until maybe 1998

like practically all the big producers/production styles drew heavily on samples up until the swizz/timbo/neptunes/mannie fresh era

Pete Rock & Cl Smooth - Mecca and the Soul Brother no contest

btw granmal butthurt, i LOVE the pharcyde, but that doesn't mean some dude wasn't otm

about the urkel part. that's why i love it tho

of the few i have, voting eric b & rakim over das efx

Predator over everything including The Chronic

I remember always laughing at the line on Kizz My Black Azz when MC Ren uses his hardest, angriest voice to shout "I'm sick of rappers using live instruments on the stage / SAVE THAT SHIT FOR PARADES"!

― Walter Galt, Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:53 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

mc ren otm

Yeah, I think it has to be The Predator. Not that topicality is the only or best way to judge a hip hop album but it was such a rapid response to the LA riots (as was the Da Lench Mob record) that it screams 1992 to me.

I got a hell of a lot of mileage out of The Goats album at the time. Not sure how well it's aged but I'm voting for that.

I played that a lot too but I think it has aged horribly.

for years i would get The Goats mixed up with Aer0smith and when i first came to ilx found it amusing that people made such a fuss about a guy from a '90s alternative hip hop group posting here

lol

ha haaa

hahahahahaha that

i didn't hear the Goats until a couple years ago, they sounded like hip-hop people who comment on AV Club articles would like...sorta dire

well this is the end of the era right - '92 is the year of the Gilbert O'Sullivan lawsuit, and production styles shift over to a less sample-based aesthetic - which Dre was out ahead of, right? or not? heads can correct me but that's my understanding, there's a big shift underway in '92 toward basically making the stuff from scratch instead of building from parts

― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:13 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the law was definitely impacting the music at that point but a pretty huge amount of popular rap was sample-driven up until maybe 1998

― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:25 AM Bookmark Flag

Yeah, but 88-92 rap had 12 samples in a song whereas 93-98 rap had one or two and maybe a sneaky uncleared one.

Comedy vote for disposable heroes of hiphoprisy (which i actually owned/loved when I was 15)

rev otm - samples still there but for pomo poseurs like myself who got ALOT out of prince paul/hank shocklee sample density this era felt like a definite downturn, there's a reason ppl overreacted to dj shadow. voted pharcyde but immediately wished i'd voted predator instead, a dip from amerikkka and death certificate but that record was huge and had that weird bigger pop impact, feels like the year hip-hop finally truly broke thru completely on radio, maybe some combo of soundscan and 2L2Q flopping.

Predator juuuust ahead of Bizarre Ride, which I expect to be the final result too

true fact: Arrested Development played for free at the reopening of a pub five minutes from my house tonight

(I didn't go)

oh i seriously doubt Cube will get more votes than Pharcyde here

idg why ppl hate on pharcyde good group imo

i don't think anyone said they're not good for what they are, i just like a bunch of these records more

I like Pharcyde better than Predator because there's way to compare it to a much better previous album. Also because it has no "Gangsta Fairytale 2" on it.

MTD >
DO >

― Good job, good multiple efforts (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, November 16, 2012 11:43 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this altho imo the mtd v bml is a much closer contest

We're including R&B stuff as well, and it's bloody hard. Just the thought of pitting Funky Divas against Black Mafia Life gives me a headache.

Dangerous vs. What's the 411? vs. Love Deluxe vs. Funky Divas vs. It's About Time?

― weak willie (longneck), Saturday, November 17, 2012 2:50 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

love deluxe >>>>>>>>>

So, on the topic of 'The Chronic,' there's this lyric to "Fuck Wit Dre Day" that I've always found puzzling. When Dre says, "Gots teeth in yo mouth so my dick's gotta fit," isn't he kind of saying that his dick is smaller than... teeth? Does this bother anyone else???

― boy_slayer, Saturday, November 17, 2012 5:31 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's "gap teeth" and it's a reference to Luther Campbell and thank you for showing us that there is indeed a demand for Rap Genius's services

― K3v Ink (some dude), Saturday, November 17, 2012 5:56 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LMAO

that's been answered multiple times on ILX longer than rapgenius has been aorund

Our 1992 countdown has come to an end. 17 people voted for 24 albums each, and 66 different albums received votes. Here are the complete results:

1. Dr. Dre: The Chronic
2. Gang Starr: Daily Operation
3. Ice Cube: The Predator
4. Redman: Whut? Thee Album
5. Underground Kingz: Too Hard To Swallow
6. Pharcyde: Bizarre Ride II The Pharcyde
7. Pete Rock & CL Smooth: Mecca And The Soul Brother
8. DJ Quik: Way 2 Fonky
9. Beastie Boys: Check Your Head
10. Diamond and The Psychotic Neurotics: Stunts, Blunts And Hip Hop
11. Above The Law: Black Mafia Life
12. Sade: Love Deluxe
13. Compton's Most Wanted: Music To Driveby
14. Kool G Rap & DJ Polo: Live And Let Die
15. Paris: Sleeping With The Enemy
16. Das EFX: Dead Serious
17. EPMD: Business Never Personal
18. Eric B and Rakim: Don’t Sweat The Technique
19. Prince & The NPG: Prince XV/Love Symbol
20. Lord Finesse: Return Of The Funky Man
21. Penthouse Players Clique: Paid The Cost
22. Showbiz & AG: Runaway Slave
23. Eazy-E: 5150 Home Of The Sick
24. Common Sense: Can I Borrow A Dollar?
25. Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy: Hypocrisy Is the Greatest Luxury
26. Mary J Blige: What's The 411?
27. Boogie Down Productions: Sex & Violence
28. Mac Dre: What's Really Going On?
29. Too Short: Shorty The Pimp
30. Ultramagnetic MCs: Funk Your Head Up
31. Soundtrack: Juice
32. Willie Dee: I'm Goin Out Like A Soldier
33. Da Lench Mob: Guerillas In The Mist
34. R. Kelly & Public Announcement: Born Into The 90s
35. The Goats: Tricks Of The Shade
36. Brand Nubian: In God We Trust
37. Hard Knocks: School Of Hard Knocks
38. Michael Jackson: Dangerous
39. Bone Hard Productions feat Big Mello: Bone Hard Zaggin
40. Shabba Ranks: X-Tra Naked
41. Tweedy Bird Loc: 187 Ride By
42. Spice 1: Spice 1
43. En Vogue: Funky Divas
44. A Tribe Called Quest: Revisited Quest For The Seasoned Traveler
45. Tung Twista: Runnin' Off At Tha Mouth
46. Grand Puba: Reel To Reel
47. TRU: Understanding The Criminal Mind
48. OFTB: Straight Up Watts
49. Roxanne Shante: Bitch Is Back
50. Body Count: Body Count
51. Buju Banton: Mr. Mention
52. Rage Against The Machine: Rage Against The Machine
53. Chubb Rock: Gotta Get Mine Yo!
54. MC Ren: Kizz My Black Azz
55. Too Much Trouble: Bringin' Hell On Earth
56. Yo Yo :Black Pearl
57. Demon Boyz: Original Guidance
58. RBL Posse: A Lesson To Be Learned
59. Point Blank: Prone To Bad Dreams
60. SWV: It's About Time
61. X Clan : Xodus
62. Master P: Mama's Bad Boy
63. Heavy D & The Boyz : Blue Funk
64. Poison Clan: Poisonous Mentality
65. Public Enemy: Greatest Misses
66. Kid Frost: East Side Story