The Cleveland Indians will never play baseball again

illgamesh (Boston): Who's more likely to keep it up this year? Rich Hill or Fausto Carmona?

Nate Silver: Hill, and it isn't close. Carmona has just 20 strikeouts in 49.3 innings. He's been very lucky.

Casey Blake (26) is closing in on Nap LaJoie's 101-year-mark (31) for the Indian's longest hitting streak.

"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying"

We'd all like to flee to the Cleave'

I may have jinxed Blake, he has one more AB probably today (0-3 through 7).

thanks, Steve

where does one sit at jacobs?

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Nice drop shadows.

brownie are you the former lawrence kansas?

Is I ever said I sat under one of those arrow's drop shadows, I'd punch myself in the face because I'd be lying.

mookie - yes

That seat in left-center really isn't too great.

that seat near 2nd base has great sightlines

behind Grady Sizemore is cool with me.

Uh, Ben Francisco!

Joe Sheehan cites Wedge's calling on Mastny vs Tigers as a critique of bullpen usage:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6421

He had been particularly horrible against the Tigers. Even with his two recent runless appearances, his ERA against them this year is 12.46. Eight hits and seven walks in 4.1 innings.

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Kenny Lofton!

Say hey!

Lofty Kennton!

Haha -- Lofton just popped out on the first pitch with a big grimace on his face.

C.C. Sabathia made a bold prediction before Monday's game.

"There's no doubt in my mind that we are going to win this division," he said. "I don't think there's anyone in this clubhouse who doesn't believe that."

...

"When we get hot, we're going to be hard to beat," said Sabathia. "We haven't even played our best bell yet."

Prox or Pruffalo, more like -- amirite?

Blake >> Cabrera >> Martinez
woot!

ngh (nyc): Can you think of a worse closer to lead the league in saves than Joe Borowoski?

Jeff Ma: No. I don't even consider Joe Borowski a closer... I thought that a fun way to decide the central would be to the Tigers and the Indians face off in a seven game series of one inning games where Todd Jones and Borowski would have to pitch each game. We need to make that happen.

Always with the home home runs (no homer).

Cy Cy Sabathia

Borowski has been a bit better than his ERA indicates, as the guy got clocked for some huge runs in April. Of course part of that was A-Rod hitting a grand slam off of him.

I think Cleveland's pen could be OK for the playoffs. Bettancourt and Rafael Perez both looked sharp when I have saw them pitch and those are going to be the guys brought in when the game is really on the line with runners on base in the 6th, 7th & 8th.

Perez: 9.26 K/9, 0.85 WHIP, 1.41 ERA
Betansloth: 8.51 K/9, 0.75 WHIP, 1.48 ERA

Yeah, those two look pretty OK.

Borowski's still gonna pitch sometime and I wouldn't trust him to wash my car.

This will be my "playoff team," I think. It could just as easily be the Mets or Angels, though.

The Indians have been terrible against the Yankees and Red Sox this year. idk I can see them beating the Angels but beyond that :/

illgamesh (Boston): Who's more likely to keep it up this year? Rich Hill or Fausto Carmona?

Nate Silver: Hill, and it isn't close. Carmona has just 20 strikeouts in 49.3 innings. He's been very lucky.

-- Dr Morbius, Monday, May 21, 2007 4:31 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Link

i luv this

KRUK WUZ RITE

? what'd he say

tied for best record in MLB, fwiw...

to get ahead of myself, anyone know the AL playoff scenario if it's BOSOX with the division win, Yanks wild card and Angels?

Kruk: Flipped out on Baseball Tonight (much to his peers' scoffs/cackles) when the Indians optioned Carmona in May.

HI-V

keep lovin' brownie, just cuz something is "more likely" is no guarantee.

In-season record vs teams, toss it.

No one will know the AL playoff scenario before someone clinches best record and the AL East.

The Indians have been terrible against the Yankees and Red Sox this year. idk I can see them beating the Angels but beyond that :/

The pitching matchups during those series were all off. Sabathia didn't even start once in the six games they played the Yankees I don't think.

The Indians may win the World Series this year.

my April WS pick was Mets over Indians.

Vernon Bellecourt, Who Protested the Use of Indian Mascots, Dies at 75
By DOUGLAS MARTIN

Vernon Bellecourt, an Ojibwa Indian who waged a long campaign for native rights, most visible in battling the use of Indian nicknames by sports teams, died Oct. 13 in Minneapolis. He was 75.

The cause was complications of pneumonia, his sister-in-law, Peggy Bellecourt, said.

Mr. Bellecourt (pronounced BELL-kort) first gained notice in 1972 as a principal spokesman for the American Indian Movement when the group organized a cross-country caravan to Washington, where members occupied the offices of the Bureau of Indian Affairs. He later worked to gain international recognition for Indian nations and their treaties, partly by meeting with controversial foreign figures like Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi of Libya and Yasir Arafat, the Palestinian leader who died in 2004.

But it was as president of the National Coalition on Racism in Sports and Media that Mr. Bellecourt achieved his greatest visibility. When teams with names like the Indians, the Redskins or the Chiefs appeared in high-profile contests, he was often there to protest.

He was arrested twice for burning an effigy of the Cleveland Indians’ mascot, Chief Wahoo, and protested the Washington Redskins at the Super Bowl.

Mr. Bellecourt said Indian nicknames for sports teams perpetuated stereotypes, making it easier to forget the real identities, problems and demands of Native Americans.

The argument gained traction. In 2001, the United States Commission on Civil Rights criticized the use of Indian images and nicknames by non-Indian schools, calling them “insensitive in light of the long history of forced assimilation that American Indian people have endured in this country.”

With many other forces in play, how much Mr. Bellecourt’s campaign has influenced colleges and universities to abandon Indian mascots is hard to gauge. But in recent years, more than a half dozen have done so, including the University of Illinois this year. In 2005, the National Collegiate Athletic Association barred Indian mascots during postseason tournaments. A few newspapers have quit using Indian-related nicknames.

Professional sports teams have been more resistant, although Mr. Bellecourt applauded in 1996 when Syracuse’s Class AAA baseball team became the Skychiefs after 62 years of being the Chiefs. What Bellecourt called his “big four” targets — the Washington Redskins, the Kansas City Chiefs, the Cleveland Indians and the Atlanta Braves — have not budged.

Bellecourt was born WaBun-Inini, meaning Man of Dawn in Ojibwa, on Oct. 17, 1931, on the White Earth reservation in Minnesota. His father was disabled by mustard gas in World War I, and his mother raised 12 children on government benefits in a home with no running water or electricity.

Mr. Bellecourt dropped out of parochial school after the eighth grade and worked at odd jobs. He was convicted of robbing a bar in St. Paul and sent to prison at 19. (The state expunged the conviction from his record in 1979, The Star Tribune of Minneapolis reported.)

In prison, he learned how to be a barber, then went to beauty school after his release. He soon owned two beauty parlors in the Minneapolis area and thought he was on his way to being a millionaire, he told The Star Tribune in 1999. He moved to Denver and sold real estate.

A sense that he was losing his heritage combined with an admiration for his brother Clyde, a founder of A.I.M. in the late 1960s, led Mr. Bellecourt to help start an A.I.M chapter in Denver. He was soon involved as a spokesman and negotiator in the 1972 Washington demonstration, known as the Trail of Broken Treaties caravan. The next year, he played a small part in the 1973 occupation at Wounded Knee on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota.

In 1974, Bellecourt helped organize an international conference of native peoples under United Nations auspices to proclaim their rights. After Leonard Peltier was convicted for killing two F.B.I. agents during a shootout at Pine Ridge in 1975, Mr. Bellecourt became a leader in the campaign to free him.

Mr. Bellecourt’s first trip to see a foreign leader was in 1989 when he met with Col. Qaddafi, whom he described as a “very warm, sensitive human being,” and later visited at least a half dozen more times. In August 2007, he traveled to Venezuela to meet with President Hugo Chávez about getting free or cheap heating oil for Indian reservations.

Mr. Bellecourt is survived by his wife, Carol Ann Bellecourt, from whom he was separated; his companion, Janice Denny; six children; and seven grandchildren.

Mr. Bellecourt never stopped repeating that Indians were people, not mascots. At a playoff game in 1993 between the Minnesota Vikings and the Redskins, he declared, “We don’t like your chicken feathers, your paint, your cheap Hollywood chants.”

Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company

RIP

oh man if only the rockies could have booked him to throw out the first pitch

ha ha ha oh my

ah just bring in jose mesa

lol victor martinez has no nickname

That may change, though, if you happen to see him at a screening of "No Country for Old Men." Hafner looks just like Javier Bardem, who won an Oscar for playing a cold, calculated killer. Hafner's monotone voice is nearly identical to Bardem's, minus the Spanish accent. His large, muscular physique is also akin to Bardem's, and their faces are eerily similar.

Dellucci went to see the movie with Hafner, and says Hafner was so excited he made Dellucci miss the first 10 minutes to get the popcorn. When Dellucci got into the theater, Hafner was on the edge of his seat, transfixed by watching himself.

"What'd I miss?" Dellucci asked.

"Oh, I just got out of some handcuffs and killed a guy," Hafner responded.

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EXCLUSIVE: For the past 105 years, the team was called the Indians. That will be no more as Cleveland has decided to change its name. Announcement from team could come as early as this week. w/@DavidWaldstein https://t.co/Nnw2nAoKcJ

— Michael S. Schmidt (@nytmike) December 14, 2020

Frankly embarrassed for any team that let the Hatcats get this done before they did

About time!

Worse embarrassment now for the Braves.

never thought this would happen

I’m really curious what they go with... I’m assuming they mean they’re announcing a new name next week?
Spiders? Cleveland Baseball Club? Barrons?!

going back to the Spiders would be really cool

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who doesn't like a nap?

Cleveland owner Paul Dolan tells AP that team is dropping name but will continue to play as #Indians in 2021.
No new name chosen yet.
No interim name.
Tribe will not be a future option.

— Tom Withers (@twithersAP) December 14, 2020

Cleveland manager Terry Francona is stepping aside for the remainder of the season for health reasons. DeMarlo Hale will take over managing Cleveland.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) July 29, 2021