So hydroquinone is supposed to be evil and carcinogenic right? I am trying to fade a couple discolored spots on my legs (leftover from ingrown hairs) and I'm wondering if this is a bad idea...
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
it may be from heat/sweating? try to stay dry. or you may be over-cleansing/scrubbing.
If you're using all that stuff regularly then yes, I think that could be your problem. I would avoid using anything abrasive on them.
― hyggeligt, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 10:01 (eleven years ago) link
No no all he said was he uses a certain shampoo and a witch hazel toner, that's not much at all -- in fact, only one facial product!
Bodrick, impossible to say, really, but start trying things. Is your pillowcase clean? Do you touch your face during the day? Drink a few glasses of water a day? Maybe try giving up caffeine for two weeks and see if that makes a difference, etc etc etc. Think of it as an exciting experiment.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:16 (eleven years ago) link
Or stop the witch hazel and try an exfoliant like the St Ives apricot scrub -- it's not fancy and some people don't like it, but it's not a bad start. (I don't want to give anyone sticker shock by recommending a $30 tub of something.)
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:18 (eleven years ago) link
A little bit of baking soda mixed with soap/cleanser does a nice job of gently exfoliating. That apricot stuff has really large granules and I heard that's not so good for skin, being so abrasive. Also bs is so cheap it's almost free.
iirc, Colette taught me this trick!
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:26 (eleven years ago) link
Is your friend as sweet as you, Surm?
― sunny successor, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I love the St Ives for my face, but then I use corn meal on my body and that's even scratchier (I love scratchy). I think Julia told me about the baking soda! It's a Chicago thing, apparently. But the baking soda is too fine for me and I never feel smooth after using.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
― lauren, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
No no all he said was he uses a certain shampoo and a witch hazel toner, that's not much at all -- in fact, only one facial product!
Ah, I didn't really read it and thought Vosene was some kind of American cleanser that sounded very chemical!
St Ives apricot scrub -- it's not fancy and some people don't like it
Why not? (ah I see that this has been answered) I think I can get that here and if it's good for blackheads?
Actually what is good for blackheads and sensitive skin?
A little bit of baking soda mixed with soap/cleanser does a nice job of gently exfoliating.
Wouldn't it burn the face off you? Ah, I see not.
I am like Laurel, I prefer something that has a bit of 'bite' but sadly that wreaks havoc on my skin. There was a very good exfoliator a while ago that I stole from someone, I wonder if I can still find it and buy more.
― hyggeligt, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
I with Laurel on this too. I like feel like im taking a few layers of skin off.
― sunny successor, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
has anyone ever had a lactic peel? there is some spa offering them for $50 for the month of july which is half of what it usually costs, but i'm afraid my skin is too sensitive. it's supposed to be less intense than a glycolic peel though.
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
listen dudes, i like the scratchy and i like the feeling of taking off dead layers of skin, but liking it doesn't make it good for my skin. i only use baking soda on the face because it's sensitive. on the rest of me i would happily use a sandblaster, but i settle for some crappy scrubbing thing i got at marshalls.
let me add that i enjoy exfoliating so much that i bought the god-forsaken ped-egg, and it wasn't tuff enough for me! in fact, it sucked and didn't take off but the top layer of dead foot skin. not recommended!
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
I'm thinking with my results from the peroxide set that my skin doesn't need DRYING, per se, but it does need sterilization ALL THE TIME. It's just so prone to infection and dead-cell/oil build-up, it has to be germ- and sweat-free as much as I can manage. The scratchier exfoliators take off the right amt of skin for me, I think. Not for everyone, though, for sure.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
this afternoon, i got the aveda pads that rrrobyn (fellow sensitive-skin sufferer) mentioned upthread. the combination of sunscreen/chlorine/saltwater/sun has really done a number on my complexion, so i'm hoping these will help sort things out. definitely pricey, but the saleswoman recommended tearing them in half and then using a cotton ball to soak up leftover product once the pads are gone.
― lauren, Monday, 14 July 2008 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, i cut them in half. discovered also that i can only use them like twice a week because they were causing sensitivities blargh. but they still work.
i need to do some kind of experiment where i go live in a dry climate for a few months or damn even a few weeks and see what happens to my skin. i wonder if it wld be good? i have never lived or even visited anywhere that didn't have some kind of humidity and/or regular precipitation!
― rrrobyn, Monday, 14 July 2008 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
i figured i'd try using them 2-3 times a week... really hope they don't end aggravating the problem.
― lauren, Monday, 14 July 2008 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
Style, what do i buy for my face? I am generally neither greasy nor dry, but I do work out a lot so I am frequently sweaty.
I want to keep from getting wrinkles, and have never applied cream or lotion except for in the incident of sunburn.
What should my regimen be? (I am poor, btw.)
― remy bean, Friday, 18 July 2008 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
Gentle cleanser, antioxidant (Vit. C or copper peptide serum), sunscreen, sunglasses, hat, Rx retinol (retin A, tazorac, etc.).
But mostly sunscreen. A#1 ultimate most important thing!
― quincie, Friday, 18 July 2008 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
why am i breaking out on my forehead? just tiny little bumps. this never, ever happens. i am concerned.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
My skin got really bad lately and I realized I had forgotten to change towels, sheets, as often as usual because of not being at home all the time now. So when I start getting little bumps and annoying redness it's usu b/c of linens and things that touch my skin.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:11 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that can make a big difference - did i already talk about how you can add 1/2 tsp of bleach, heavily diluted in a small container of water (like a small plastic container from yogurt or whatever) and add that to the soap while the washing machine is beginning to fill up, then add clothes - doesn't affect coloured fabrics and kills bacteria/mildew/etc - esp good for washing towels and sheets.
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
my skin is ok these days tho still not perfect or anything and still really sensitive. i find i can only use the aveda salicylic acid pads once every two weeks, and i should probably not wear make-up but i mean damn i work in an office and also like to look somewhat polished despite my hippie leanings. using the weleda salt toothpaste has made a noticable difference in breakouts around mouth though!
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
rrob, those aveda outer peace pads have really worked well for me. i've cut them in half and use a half every day or every other day, and so far no irritation or dryness or anything of that nature. these plus my sulfur cleanser have been keeping my skin in pretty great shape despite the heat and humidity.
― lauren, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
i'm currently debating whether i should buy a tinted moisturizer or a primer to help even out my skin tone...i don't want to wear foundation every day, but i need something to help smooth over my pores and give me a more even look. any suggestions?
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
Re bleach: Hah, for years I only bought all-white sheets and towels and Tshirts for sleeping in, expressly for the purpose of bleaching them at every wash. I stopped somewhere along the way b/c of the lure of polka-dotted bed-set but I do wash all household linens in hot water.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
i'm glad to hear it, lauren!
i would like aveda to make their super-sensitive skin moisturizer with a slight tint, that wld be nice
a friend gave me some of her nuxe (french, expensive) mattifying moisturizer to try and even tho it is all 'botanicals, high-quality, blah blah blah' my skin went a bit pink and i got a couple (minor) pimples by the end of the day eeesh botanicals whatever
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
bell i have been using laura mercier tinted moisturizer and i really like it. not too heavy, and seems to maintain a nice look all day w/out looking too makeup-y.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
also they have good shades for fair skin.
laura mercier website just made me feel highly under-makeuped
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
I've been really frustrated all summer with breakouts under the corners of my jaw and in my cleavage.
THEN I read somewhere that I might be allergic to perfume.
Last time I tried natural scented oils I broke out as well. Any suggestions?
― felicity, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
Put the scent somewhere else, I'm sorry to say. I can't wear it on my head or ears or neck or chest either. Wrists are okay usually, back of knees, armpits seem all right. That's it for me.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
For tinted moisturizer usually I just mix a little foundation (usually only for special occasions) with my regular moisturizer = not having to purchase another product + color is right.
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
hmmm. glad that perfume issue does not happen to me. i am feeling rly greasy this summer, though. i keep forgetting to blot during the day and then at 5:30 i'm a mess!
― tehresa, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
Good idea, Laurel. Thanks. I put it in my hair sometimes, too.
― felicity, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry my suggestions are so limited. I don't like putting perfume in my hair but I should try dabbing a finger of scented oil into my part or somewhere on my scalp. It would make hair greasy in large quantities but maybe a little dab underneath....
― Laurel, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
Not a tinted moisturized, but I like MAC's studio fix as an alternative to foundation (to which I too am averse). It goes on powder-ish and but gives coverage somewhere between a powder and a liquid/creme foundation.
Most of all I like that I can wear it just on my cheeks--which need help in the evening-out department--but can skip it everywhere else. It matches my skin tone well enough, and is sheer enough, that it doesn't leave a line of demarcation.
― quincie, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
I was really bored on my lunch break and bought a bunch of stuff from Origins. It was all much better than expected and I like the smells when you use a bunch together. There is some sort of microdermabrasionawesometimesupercub scrub that I am in love with. And I bought a bunch of mushroom dr. weil stuff because i read his book when i was like 15.
― Yerac, Thursday, 14 August 2008 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
oh and I bought some loose powder which I like, because I don;t think I have had powder in about 8 years.
― Yerac, Thursday, 14 August 2008 00:37 (eleven years ago) link
i got this mattifying tea tree oil moisturizer @ body shop yesterday. it really does feel mattifying! will see how long it lasts... i've been feeling so greasy this summer so i hope this helps cut that.
― tehresa, Thursday, 14 August 2008 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
― gabbneb, Thursday, 14 August 2008 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
does not work for the sensitive skinned, have tried
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 14 August 2008 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
tea tree? i just felt like i needed to strip off summer gunk.
― tehresa, Thursday, 14 August 2008 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
(my breakouts are rosacea style bumps, not uh 'traditional acne')
i think tea tree does work as an anti-bacterial! but obv again it depends on yr own personal sensitivities to stuff
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 14 August 2008 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really have "acne" either. i think it's just a little bit of congestion in the pores or maybe from summer sweat? it also may just be that it was my off-week for the birth control.
― tehresa, Thursday, 14 August 2008 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
omg tehresa I LOVE that body shop moisturizer! It treats pores right, too.
Gonna see how much those Aveda pads cost if my sis-in-law gets them at cost...if under $20, I'm in. Salicylic acid normally turns my face into a cracked & reddened wasteland, tho, so I'm kind of afraid of it. I mean, wart remover is salycilic acid, just in a higher concentration!
Trying zinc pills for the acne...too many confounding factors to see if IT really works, but may as well give it a try. Sometimes I wish I had a second me as a control group.
― Abbott, Thursday, 14 August 2008 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
When I stayed at her house, she had some really thin nylon scrubby cloth that was the BEST face exfoliator. I can't find it at any of the stores here (basically K-Mart, Target, drug stores & the like). Does anyone know what I am talking about & where I could find one?
― Abbott, Thursday, 14 August 2008 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
New St. Ive's olive face wash is shit, btw.
oh zinc supplements totally work/help!
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 14 August 2008 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
my link tells you to stay away from salicylic acid
― gabbneb, Thursday, 14 August 2008 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
i feel the winter skin in full effect. it is dull and occasionally flaky, but also i feel like i'm getting greasy by the end of the day! asldgjk. using same products as last winter, to different results. ugh. i hate trying to find new ones.
― very quotatious (tehresa), Friday, 12 December 2008 16:42 (ten years ago) link
Roz, I might try that Cosrx snail mucin essence. Is it sticky? some reviews say so but I think people sometimes review the idea of something rather than the reality. i use that Pynkyang Yul toner and might get the mist version of it.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:15 (three days ago) link
The GG that's sold in the UK is a Glycolic based thing. I think it might be a different formulation.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:17 (three days ago) link
Yeah it must be bc that link redirects to their home page and if I search gg this is the one that comes up and it’s lactic acid
Very weird. It’s raved about everywhere so I’m surprised I haven’t heard this before. Can you c&p the ingredients list?
― just1n3, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 21:49 (three days ago) link
SUNDAY RILEYGood Genes Glycolic Acid Treatment
INGREDIENTSWATER/ AQUA/ EAU, DIMETHICONE, GLYCOLIC ACID, SQUALANE, CAPRYLYL CAPRYLATE/CAPRATE, PPG-12/SMDI COPOLYMER, POTASSIUM LACTATE, CETEARYL ALCOHOL, PROPANEDIOL, STEARIC ACID, GLYCERIN, PPG-24-GLYCERETH-24, BIS-STEARYL DIMETHICONE, OPUNTIA FICUS-INDICA FRUIT EXTRACT, SACCHAROMYCES CEREVISIAE EXTRACT, CYMBOPOGON SCHOENANTHUS OIL, PEG-100 STEARATE, GLYCERYL STEARATE, HYDROXYETHYL ACRYLATE/ SODIUM ACRYLOYLDIMETHYL TAURATE COPOLYMER, CETEARETH-20, CAPRYLYL GLYCOL, CHLORPHENESIN, XANTHAN GUM, SORBITAN ISOSTEARATE, POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE, PHENOXYETHANOL, CITRAL, GERANIOL, LIMONENE
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 21:58 (three days ago) link
& you can get The Ordinary 10% lactic acid with pepperberry in the UK/EU so it can't be because of restrictions on LA.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:01 (three days ago) link
That’s a totally different formulation. So weird.
― just1n3, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:18 (three days ago) link
really weird considering how much people love it in North America.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:24 (three days ago) link
jed, the cosrx snail mucin is a little bit gooey and syrupy, but dries down pretty quickly - definitely not sticky once absorbed. It's very soothing and hydrating imo, but I can see how others might not love the texture.
i don't know why it's marketed as an essence though, it's closer to a gel or something.
― Roz, Thursday, 5 December 2019 02:20 (two days ago) link
“ The Sunday Riley Good Genes Lactic Acid Treatment (which is still available to buy in the U.S.) was pulled from shelves in the UK at the beginning of the year due to its lactic acid content. The Scientific Committee of Consumer Safety law states that products must have a pH level greater than 5 to be sold in the UK and EU.”
― just1n3, Thursday, 5 December 2019 08:01 (two days ago) link
I just ordered a small bottle of the infamous biologique recherche p50. Think I might try those garden of wisdom lactic acid pads mentioned in the gg dupes article next.
― just1n3, Thursday, 5 December 2019 08:36 (two days ago) link
I partly gave up on the ordinary and just went to my doc and got an rx for tretinoin/stieva-A (generic retin A) and clindoxyl, which use at night after washing my face. Still cleansing with Avene gentle cleansers. I use a Hado labo hyaluronic serum and the Ordinary Squalane for moisturizer. It’s definitely improved my skin after a month+ so that’s cool. Though I’ve worn an spf tinted moisturizer for years or used mineral makeup, I’ve always had a bit of a reaction to it - I have yet to find an SPF I like and don’t react to :/ Canada has different rules for approving spf so options are limited... I just want to protect my skin dammit! Will keep trying...
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 6 December 2019 13:58 (yesterday) link
I have a new bottle of The Ordinary squalene and couldn't remember what I was supposed to use it for. Moisturizer it is. One day I am going to do a deep dive about asian beauty products. I am going to be within walking distance of a large japanese grocery/drugstore for two months soon and want to be prepared. I started looking at the reddit thread on it and saw 50something year old man on there with such nice dewy looking skin
― Yerac, Friday, 6 December 2019 16:39 (yesterday) link