suncream, zits and wrinkles: rolling skincare thread?

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So hydroquinone is supposed to be evil and carcinogenic right? I am trying to fade a couple discolored spots on my legs (leftover from ingrown hairs) and I'm wondering if this is a bad idea...

bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:50 (twelve years ago) link

it may be from heat/sweating? try to stay dry. or you may be over-cleansing/scrubbing.

If you're using all that stuff regularly then yes, I think that could be your problem. I would avoid using anything abrasive on them.

hyggeligt, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 10:01 (twelve years ago) link

No no all he said was he uses a certain shampoo and a witch hazel toner, that's not much at all -- in fact, only one facial product!

Bodrick, impossible to say, really, but start trying things. Is your pillowcase clean? Do you touch your face during the day? Drink a few glasses of water a day? Maybe try giving up caffeine for two weeks and see if that makes a difference, etc etc etc. Think of it as an exciting experiment.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

Or stop the witch hazel and try an exfoliant like the St Ives apricot scrub -- it's not fancy and some people don't like it, but it's not a bad start. (I don't want to give anyone sticker shock by recommending a $30 tub of something.)

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

A little bit of baking soda mixed with soap/cleanser does a nice job of gently exfoliating. That apricot stuff has really large granules and I heard that's not so good for skin, being so abrasive. Also bs is so cheap it's almost free.

iirc, Colette taught me this trick!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:26 (twelve years ago) link

Is your friend as sweet as you, Surm?

sunny successor, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I love the St Ives for my face, but then I use corn meal on my body and that's even scratchier (I love scratchy). I think Julia told me about the baking soda! It's a Chicago thing, apparently. But the baking soda is too fine for me and I never feel smooth after using.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:26 (twelve years ago) link


lauren, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

No no all he said was he uses a certain shampoo and a witch hazel toner, that's not much at all -- in fact, only one facial product!

Ah, I didn't really read it and thought Vosene was some kind of American cleanser that sounded very chemical!

St Ives apricot scrub -- it's not fancy and some people don't like it

Why not? (ah I see that this has been answered) I think I can get that here and if it's good for blackheads?

Actually what is good for blackheads and sensitive skin?

A little bit of baking soda mixed with soap/cleanser does a nice job of gently exfoliating.

Wouldn't it burn the face off you? Ah, I see not.

I am like Laurel, I prefer something that has a bit of 'bite' but sadly that wreaks havoc on my skin. There was a very good exfoliator a while ago that I stole from someone, I wonder if I can still find it and buy more.

hyggeligt, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

I with Laurel on this too. I like feel like im taking a few layers of skin off.

sunny successor, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

has anyone ever had a lactic peel? there is some spa offering them for $50 for the month of july which is half of what it usually costs, but i'm afraid my skin is too sensitive. it's supposed to be less intense than a glycolic peel though.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

listen dudes, i like the scratchy and i like the feeling of taking off dead layers of skin, but liking it doesn't make it good for my skin. i only use baking soda on the face because it's sensitive. on the rest of me i would happily use a sandblaster, but i settle for some crappy scrubbing thing i got at marshalls.

let me add that i enjoy exfoliating so much that i bought the god-forsaken ped-egg, and it wasn't tuff enough for me! in fact, it sucked and didn't take off but the top layer of dead foot skin. not recommended!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

I'm thinking with my results from the peroxide set that my skin doesn't need DRYING, per se, but it does need sterilization ALL THE TIME. It's just so prone to infection and dead-cell/oil build-up, it has to be germ- and sweat-free as much as I can manage. The scratchier exfoliators take off the right amt of skin for me, I think. Not for everyone, though, for sure.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

this afternoon, i got the aveda pads that rrrobyn (fellow sensitive-skin sufferer) mentioned upthread. the combination of sunscreen/chlorine/saltwater/sun has really done a number on my complexion, so i'm hoping these will help sort things out. definitely pricey, but the saleswoman recommended tearing them in half and then using a cotton ball to soak up leftover product once the pads are gone.

lauren, Monday, 14 July 2008 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i cut them in half. discovered also that i can only use them like twice a week because they were causing sensitivities blargh. but they still work.

i need to do some kind of experiment where i go live in a dry climate for a few months or damn even a few weeks and see what happens to my skin. i wonder if it wld be good? i have never lived or even visited anywhere that didn't have some kind of humidity and/or regular precipitation!

rrrobyn, Monday, 14 July 2008 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

i figured i'd try using them 2-3 times a week... really hope they don't end aggravating the problem.

lauren, Monday, 14 July 2008 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

Style, what do i buy for my face? I am generally neither greasy nor dry, but I do work out a lot so I am frequently sweaty.

I want to keep from getting wrinkles, and have never applied cream or lotion except for in the incident of sunburn.

What should my regimen be? (I am poor, btw.)

remy bean, Friday, 18 July 2008 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

Gentle cleanser, antioxidant (Vit. C or copper peptide serum), sunscreen, sunglasses, hat, Rx retinol (retin A, tazorac, etc.).

But mostly sunscreen. A#1 ultimate most important thing!

quincie, Friday, 18 July 2008 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

why am i breaking out on my forehead? just tiny little bumps. this never, ever happens. i am concerned.

tehresa, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 12:49 (eleven years ago) link

My skin got really bad lately and I realized I had forgotten to change towels, sheets, as often as usual because of not being at home all the time now. So when I start getting little bumps and annoying redness it's usu b/c of linens and things that touch my skin.

Laurel, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that can make a big difference - did i already talk about how you can add 1/2 tsp of bleach, heavily diluted in a small container of water (like a small plastic container from yogurt or whatever) and add that to the soap while the washing machine is beginning to fill up, then add clothes - doesn't affect coloured fabrics and kills bacteria/mildew/etc - esp good for washing towels and sheets.

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

my skin is ok these days tho still not perfect or anything and still really sensitive. i find i can only use the aveda salicylic acid pads once every two weeks, and i should probably not wear make-up but i mean damn i work in an office and also like to look somewhat polished despite my hippie leanings. using the weleda salt toothpaste has made a noticable difference in breakouts around mouth though!

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

rrob, those aveda outer peace pads have really worked well for me. i've cut them in half and use a half every day or every other day, and so far no irritation or dryness or anything of that nature. these plus my sulfur cleanser have been keeping my skin in pretty great shape despite the heat and humidity.

lauren, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

i'm currently debating whether i should buy a tinted moisturizer or a primer to help even out my skin tone...i don't want to wear foundation every day, but i need something to help smooth over my pores and give me a more even look. any suggestions?

bell_labs, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

Re bleach: Hah, for years I only bought all-white sheets and towels and Tshirts for sleeping in, expressly for the purpose of bleaching them at every wash. I stopped somewhere along the way b/c of the lure of polka-dotted bed-set but I do wash all household linens in hot water.

Laurel, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

i'm glad to hear it, lauren!

i would like aveda to make their super-sensitive skin moisturizer with a slight tint, that wld be nice

a friend gave me some of her nuxe (french, expensive) mattifying moisturizer to try and even tho it is all 'botanicals, high-quality, blah blah blah' my skin went a bit pink and i got a couple (minor) pimples by the end of the day eeesh botanicals whatever

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

bell i have been using laura mercier tinted moisturizer and i really like it. not too heavy, and seems to maintain a nice look all day w/out looking too makeup-y.

tehresa, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

also they have good shades for fair skin.

tehresa, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

laura mercier website just made me feel highly under-makeuped

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

I've been really frustrated all summer with breakouts under the corners of my jaw and in my cleavage.

THEN I read somewhere that I might be allergic to perfume.

Mystery solved.

Last time I tried natural scented oils I broke out as well. Any suggestions?

felicity, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Put the scent somewhere else, I'm sorry to say. I can't wear it on my head or ears or neck or chest either. Wrists are okay usually, back of knees, armpits seem all right. That's it for me.

Laurel, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

For tinted moisturizer usually I just mix a little foundation (usually only for special occasions) with my regular moisturizer = not having to purchase another product + color is right.

La Lechera, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

hmmm. glad that perfume issue does not happen to me. i am feeling rly greasy this summer, though. i keep forgetting to blot during the day and then at 5:30 i'm a mess!

tehresa, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

Good idea, Laurel. Thanks. I put it in my hair sometimes, too.

felicity, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry my suggestions are so limited. I don't like putting perfume in my hair but I should try dabbing a finger of scented oil into my part or somewhere on my scalp. It would make hair greasy in large quantities but maybe a little dab underneath....

Laurel, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

Not a tinted moisturized, but I like MAC's studio fix as an alternative to foundation (to which I too am averse). It goes on powder-ish and but gives coverage somewhere between a powder and a liquid/creme foundation.

Most of all I like that I can wear it just on my cheeks--which need help in the evening-out department--but can skip it everywhere else. It matches my skin tone well enough, and is sheer enough, that it doesn't leave a line of demarcation.

quincie, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

I was really bored on my lunch break and bought a bunch of stuff from Origins. It was all much better than expected and I like the smells when you use a bunch together. There is some sort of microdermabrasionawesometimesupercub scrub that I am in love with. And I bought a bunch of mushroom dr. weil stuff because i read his book when i was like 15.

Yerac, Thursday, 14 August 2008 00:36 (eleven years ago) link

oh and I bought some loose powder which I like, because I don;t think I have had powder in about 8 years.

Yerac, Thursday, 14 August 2008 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

i got this mattifying tea tree oil moisturizer @ body shop yesterday. it really does feel mattifying! will see how long it lasts... i've been feeling so greasy this summer so i hope this helps cut that.

tehresa, Thursday, 14 August 2008 12:42 (eleven years ago) link

you're welcome

gabbneb, Thursday, 14 August 2008 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

does not work for the sensitive skinned, have tried

rrrobyn, Thursday, 14 August 2008 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

tea tree? i just felt like i needed to strip off summer gunk.

tehresa, Thursday, 14 August 2008 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

(my breakouts are rosacea style bumps, not uh 'traditional acne')
i think tea tree does work as an anti-bacterial! but obv again it depends on yr own personal sensitivities to stuff

rrrobyn, Thursday, 14 August 2008 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

i don't really have "acne" either. i think it's just a little bit of congestion in the pores or maybe from summer sweat? it also may just be that it was my off-week for the birth control.

tehresa, Thursday, 14 August 2008 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

omg tehresa I LOVE that body shop moisturizer! It treats pores right, too.

Gonna see how much those Aveda pads cost if my sis-in-law gets them at cost...if under $20, I'm in. Salicylic acid normally turns my face into a cracked & reddened wasteland, tho, so I'm kind of afraid of it. I mean, wart remover is salycilic acid, just in a higher concentration!

Trying zinc pills for the acne...too many confounding factors to see if IT really works, but may as well give it a try. Sometimes I wish I had a second me as a control group.

Abbott, Thursday, 14 August 2008 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

When I stayed at her house, she had some really thin nylon scrubby cloth that was the BEST face exfoliator. I can't find it at any of the stores here (basically K-Mart, Target, drug stores & the like). Does anyone know what I am talking about & where I could find one?

Abbott, Thursday, 14 August 2008 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

New St. Ive's olive face wash is shit, btw.

Abbott, Thursday, 14 August 2008 20:14 (eleven years ago) link

oh zinc supplements totally work/help!

rrrobyn, Thursday, 14 August 2008 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

my link tells you to stay away from salicylic acid

gabbneb, Thursday, 14 August 2008 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

i feel the winter skin in full effect. it is dull and occasionally flaky, but also i feel like i'm getting greasy by the end of the day! asldgjk. using same products as last winter, to different results. ugh. i hate trying to find new ones.

very quotatious (tehresa), Friday, 12 December 2008 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

Ostensibly by letting them crawl on special screens in a dark room, but I mean...

rb (soda), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 01:47 (six months ago) link

the snail stuff isn't that pricey considering I went into sephora for the first time in awhile and was surprised how all skincare seemed to be $40+. It feels very nice on.

re: being in the sun. I really like the beach and water activities and the laying out is an unfortunate byproduct. Especially, if I go with people who want to stay all day at the beach and I don't want to be the person that makes people leave. I just spent 6 hours each day of this 3 day weekend at the beach and I am exhausted but I was enduring the length for other people who were super stoked regardless of the weather. Like jed mentions some people live for the sun.

Yerac, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 02:17 (six months ago) link

I’ve been using the Biologique Recherche p50 and it’s pretty good - not mind blowing - but I think I need the hardcore 1970s original formula bc the regular version doesn’t even tingle a little bit

My skin issues right now (the same ones I’ve had for ages)
Closed comedones that won’t surface around my chin and jawline
Broken capillaries across my cheeks
Big under eye bags

My actual skin *feels* really hydrated and smooth though

just1n3, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 02:34 (six months ago) link

I was just in the store checking for decently priced mineral sunscreens before ordering online. Banana Boat has "reef safe" ones but they still had avobenzone in it which was really tripping me up. I finally found one of the Banana Boat spf50 kid/baby ones that was mineral decently priced like $7 for 6 oz. Going to give it a try.

I still have bad dry skin around my mouth issues that started with the retinol. I think I made it bad again by using spf lipbalm and since I am allergic to like 95% of lipbalms/lipsticks i think that set it off again.

Yerac, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 02:45 (six months ago) link

Mine does too and that's the thing. The surface and texture is good, maybe very good, but eyebags and sagging jawline etc are pretty much unfixable other than surgically.


Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 02:46 (six months ago) link

Jawline thing is the thing I would do were I down with plastic surgery, which I am pretty sure I am not

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 04:01 (six months ago) link

six months pass...

I have gotten good at wearing sunscreen! But I want to switch. I am p much exclusively going for UVA protection and I understand that avobenzone (the "best" UVA blocker approved in the US) is actually just not that great at UVA protection compared to stuff that's in use in Europe and Japan, and ALSO that SPF only refers to UVB and not UVA??? Wild!

I want to try one of these magical beloved cult Japanese sunscreens, ideally something fragrance free (so prob not the Biore Watery Whatever). My face is on the oilier side of normal, I never have problems w dryness so I don't mind trying something w alcohol.

Has anyone tried either the Nivea Sun Protect Super Water Gel or the Skin Aqua Super Moisture Milk? Or does anyone have any other suggestions? I get the impression that PA+++ is enough and I don't really *need* ++++, and I also have a moderately resilient face (I like to think) and so my biggest priority is weightlessness and invisibility and a barely there feeling, ideally with a bit of waterproof-ness as well since a lot of the time when I'm outside these days it's bcz I'm running errands on my bike and thus sweating

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 1 August 2020 15:11 (one week ago) link

I am also a little oily, and also mostly indisposed to fragrance. I use (and love) Biore UV Aqua Rich Watery Gel SPF50 + PA ++++ . I am not aware that of an aroma - if there is one there it is very faint, and it recedes quickly. Other posters might weight in too, because I could just be habituated to a thing I wear every day?

In other news, I completely quit any skincare routine three months ago. I just wash my face with water, morning and evening, and I slap on sunscreen when I leave the house. I am sandpapery and old, now.

america's favorite (remy bean), Saturday, 1 August 2020 16:34 (one week ago) link

I got the eltaMD UV Clear and I loooooove, but it is zinc-based so I dunno about the PA stuff.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 1 August 2020 16:48 (one week ago) link

Xps that nivea one gets a lot of good reviews from skincare enthusiasts

just1n3, Sunday, 2 August 2020 00:39 (six days ago) link

I've tried the Skin Aqua - they have a few different formulations and all of them are really light and non-greasy and highly recommended (the one I'm currently using is in a pink bottle). iirc the one that's more waterproof/sweat-proof comes in the yellow bottle.

Roz, Sunday, 2 August 2020 05:15 (six days ago) link

ok I just sprung for the Biore UV Aqua Rich Watery Essence, it's sweat/waterproof (where the Nivea is not) and it's supposed to go on clearer than the gel. Fingers crossed!!

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 2 August 2020 19:55 (six days ago) link

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