Does anyone really like the Red Hot Chili Peppers?

maybe, but i would argue that the self-indulgent/dull/irritating moments in JA are at least as bad as anything RHCP did. i think the fact that JA broke up before most of their fans outgrew their stuff is their critical shining armor.

the 1988 Sam Elliot/Paul Weller film

I would pay money to see Sam Elliot kill Paul Weller on film. Or at least abuse him.

As for the question at hand...I'll grant 'em "Give It Away" and Frusciante really is a fantastic musician on his own. But that's it.

“Hey, why didn’t we think of that?”

Copies were at Terrastock.

it pained me to say that.

frusciante's cuteness is another matter entirely.

EVERYONE DOES. (except for me & maybe chaki)

Honestly, I loved their first 3 albums, was kinda "meh" about most of Mother's Milk (even though "Magic Johnson" & "Knock Me Down" are grebt songs, and "Pretty Little Ditty" was a thing of beauty until Crazytown raped it raw), ABSOLUTELY LOVED AND STILL DO Blood Sugar Sex Magik, and everything since then has been touched with rare moments of greatness ("Kill Your Television" fr'instance), but mostly frustrating in-that they've got great melodic/harmonic ideas (thank you John Frusciate!), but a lead singer with a rather limited range and a voice that can be k-annoying. This is a band I once loved, now a band I k-like that has some songs I love that my own band is (painfully often) compared to.

Well, I'm sold!

By The Way
Universally Speaking
This Is The Place
Dosed
The Zephyr Song
Can't Stop
Cabron
On Mercury
Minor Thing
Venice Queen

See, the problem is how we're defining 'pleasant.' ;-)

MAYBE? man i never miss a show. wait till you hear what Angelo Moore/Chaki are workin on in the studio together!

Unyielding Conditioning
Lemon Merangue
Rock Star
When Problems Arise
Housework

I'm wondering how Gill's production technique has changed over the years. There's a sort've crackly, blistering quality to the sound on this album, but the players seem very sonicly tucked behind the vocals, which -- unfortunately -- highlights Anthony Kiedis' limitations as a singer (not Andy Gill's fault). At the very least -- it's got a cleaner sound, quite unlike, say, the last Killing Joke album, Democracy, so here's hoping Gill's input solves that dilemna.

AL B SURE TO THREAD

Jesus Christ, this is one of the harshest damned-if-you-do/damned-if-you-don't set-ups I've ever heard of

One of my students wrote beautifully about Scar Tissue last semester. I was a little dubious at first when she chose that song bc I had preexisting bias but she convinced me it was deeper than I thought.

Idk why anyone is talking about REM jock jams but I’d vote for Stand!

Orange Crush > Stand

Turn You Inside Out could work, too. Or Finest Worksong, etc. Anything with big drums (which Stand lacks).

but what is the Pylon stadium jam?

For various reasons I have fallen into a hyperlocal music scene where 30-year-old people inexplicably love 30-year-old music.

Seriously RHCP is implicated in a seemingly inexhaustible well of 90s jams that the young adults apparently crave. Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains, Goo Goo Dolls, Counting Crows, Sugar Ray, Hootie, Killers, Smashmouth, Gin Blossoms, Foo Fighters.

I have sat in on drums with two bands that play this stuff and it is a complete mindboink.

It's like this - I load in, set up my kit, get a drink, look out at a normal bar crowd. Ho, hum, I've done this a thousand times and mostly get ignored. Then the band starts up with "Under the Bridge" or "All Star" and the place fucking EXPLODES. All of a sudden, five 20-something women in sparkly tank tops are going WOOOO and putting money in the tip jar and asking if we know any Coldplay and buying me drinks.

It's uncanny and I have no explanation for it. When this music was current I had no love for it (I'm an 80s creature) but I can play it all from memory without thinking. If I had known this was a thing, I wouldn't have bothered with half my repertoire.

Chili Peppers should do a "Shrek" song. Whether or not there's a new "Shrek" movie. Though for all I know, they're all "Shrek" songs. "Under the Bridge" is for sure about Shrek.

Sometimes I feel like I don't have an ogre

Sometimes I feel like my only friend / Is the donkey I live with / A wisecracking equine

Give it away give it away give it away now

Mike Myers walking like he talkin

Understand I don't wanna be a dorkwad

How come everybody wanna keep it like Lord Farquaad

Give it away give it away give it away now

I really like Flea’s playing on higher ground, it sounds like he’s climbing a stairmaster

"Under the Bridge" is for sure about Shrek"
you're right. under sheck's bridge you find shrek's mud pool