Grant McLennan - RIP

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I've had my differences with Ned (I love you NED!!!!!), but I very rarely ever listen to lyrics. This guy wrote some great hooks, which I appreciate more than artichoke hearts with garlic and pasta.

4th martini coming up.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I keep googling his name in "news" and nothing comes up. But my newspaper didn't print any news of Mile Davis' s passing either.

5th martini coming up.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

The comments here are pretty impressive. I've never really paid much attention to the Go-Betweens, who I moments ago realized I have always conflated with Prefab Sprout for some reason. (Sorry!) I guess I should seek something out...

pleased to mitya (mitya), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Again, pleased to mitya, email me and I'll burn you some stuff. Take advantage while I'm still terribly drunk.

What a horrible fuckin' day.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Just got a horrible text informing me of this. Brings back memories of talking to Robert Forster at a London after show party, last year or the year before, who informed us that Grant could not attend because he was 'upstairs smoking a spliff'.

An actual genius. Not many that can be said about. RIP.

Ally C (Ally C), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Did that screenplay he and Robert were working on ever get finished or produced?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think Grant was a genius, but he could write a tune that stayed in my head for days. I'll take that over a genius any day.

6th martini coming up.....

Jim M (jmcgaw), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Aaron, I was at that accostic show (Pontiac?) as well, and my wife

Yeah, Pontiac, MI at the 7th House. I remember it really vividly.

This completely sucks. Grant was what, only 48? Awful.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

No one's mentioned Robert Forster. I was always touched that when the Go-Be's broke up in '88 there was little rancor b/w the two men. When I spoke to him in February he said enough about what Grant meant to him without getting drippy:

Our relationship’s changing all the time. We’re still discovering its magnitude. Any successful relationship requires a lot of give and take. If the spotlight’s on your partner instead of you, you learn to accept it. We’ve seen famous bands where they’re all friends break up, and it’s sad. We’re passed that point, though. We’re concerned with the greater good. Certainly in the ‘80s, when we faced a lot of commercial pressure—to write hit singles and so forth—it’s a bad situation for two songwriters, and was not good for our friendship. But the peak is still there, and we’re looking for new ones.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I was just reading the interview you did for Stylus. I'll save you the embarrassment and include the link.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks, Jim. There's always P2P out there. Perhaps some of the mp3 blogs will post things on Monday.

Just out of curiosity, how big were they in Australia?

pleased to mitya (mitya), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Devastated. Now doubly glad I paid for both nights when they were in NY. 16 Lovers Lane is my favorite album of all time.

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I've finally put my finger on what this reminds me of -- it's a bit like Octavia Butler's death, though she had a more overt history of health problems. But it was a passing too soon and when you just knew there was more to come. When Lem died, I was saddened but again, he had had a marvellously full life. With Butler and now with McLennan, I feel like I've been kicked in the gut.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

geeez....just clicked on ilx to catch up after work and this smacked me like a ton of bricks.....what a terrible fucking loss.

drone/a/sore (drone/a/sore), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

steve kilbey writes about grant mclennan in his blog.

drone/a/sore (drone/a/sore), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

This is where Kilbey is most OTM:

grant seemed to have a way of opening up his mouth
and singing instant choruses
hed plucked outta the ether
words flew to him
he walk with melodies at his beck n call

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Very sad. This should be big news, but alas, the Go Betweens were always that underrated gem band that no one other than critics and music freaks ever talked about.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:31 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19054648-2,00.html

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

wow. sigh...

i somehow fanangled my way into seeing him at urbis orbis in chicago about 12 years ago now, opening for...are you ready for this?... Jewel. there was a line through the coffee shop to the door before the door opened. he played solo accoustic and put on an incredible show -- the song i most remember is "haven't i been a fool", which remains my favorite from him probably because of the performance. the crowd (geez, maybe 75?) was so respectful, hardly a whisper uttered during any of the songs. it was gorgeous.

after a standing ovation, 90% of the crowd got up to leave. i remember Jewel, who took the floor very quickly, was reduced literally begging "please don't go!"

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

This is really heartbreaking...

The Velvet Overlord (The Velvet Overlord), Sunday, 7 May 2006 00:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know what to say about this at all. RIP grant, you will never be forgotten.

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Sunday, 7 May 2006 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Amazing what you can find on Google -- Grant interviews Nick Cave, as it were.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 00:25 (seventeen years ago) link

N.C : I'm like you in that I'm very interested in classic songwriting, creating songs that have a classic feel to them. I mean, I don't think either of us are really concerned about doing anything that's new, or breaking new areas of music. We're far more interested in writing purposeful and soulful and well-constructed songs, and, as you go, you get more tools to be able to do that.

G.W : Where I grew up there is an annual picnic race meeting where the people from the surrounding cattle stations come and race their horses and relax. Whenever I'm there I get asked to play some songs but I find it really difficult because I don't know any of the songs they like. If I play my own, especially the early ones, they say "do you know any with a tune?" (much laughter)

N.C : I'd love to be able to play guitar and be able to sing, to stand on the back of a truck or around the campfire and entertain people in that way. I can't do that, unfortunately.

G.W : You could if you wanted to. You used to have an old guitar in London which I wrote "Cattle and Cane" on.

N.C : So that's why I could never write anything on it.

G.W : I ruined it for you. Did I steal its only tune? I'll give you a credit next time I see my publisher.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Radio interview with the band last year.

Momus (Momus), Sunday, 7 May 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Agreed with everyone above. It's like hearing D. Boon died - totally unexpected, shocking in ways you wouldn't have realized, and at the expense of so many other great songs that would've come. I'm so glad I got to see Grant solo a bunch of times in NYC (once in a midtown Irish bar during happy hour!) and Grant and Robert at Maxwell's circa 1999. It seems like we're unexpectedly losing a lot of our greats lately, doesn't it?

mike a, Sunday, 7 May 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned I have the real magazine that Cave/McLennan article is from, I'm suprised it's been transcribed there wholesale without credit! Its from GQ magazine from about 1993 or thereabouts, by my recall.

Very sad news, this.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 7 May 2006 01:27 (seventeen years ago) link

This is so wrenching. Oceans Apart was the 2005 record I've listened to the most in 2006; it helped me a lot during some fairly dark times, pretty recently. It's the album I was hoping I'd hear from them--the one that fully convinced me of their greatness, and the one that's making me work backwards. I have to do that now, obviously.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 7 May 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know what to say. This is impossibly sad news.

I'm so glad that I saw the G-Bs play live last year.

Bring Me The Head of ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 7 May 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

This is so very sad I barely know what to say. Except that had I not read it here, tonight, I wonder how long I would have gone without ever finding out.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 7 May 2006 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

For what was up until I found out a lovely day, this has really all knocked me for a loop. I can't stop thinking about it, or at least, as I concentrate on other things it still comes back to me. I went for a small wander just now in my area, and I looked up into the sky without a god that's a clear blue sky. It seems just that much more empty now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 May 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Like a ghost
A ghost of something old
It's cold and dusty in here.
It's in your hand
It sits just like a glove
The finger traces the lines of love.
It's cold and dusty in here.

-- "Dusty in Here"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Really glad I went to see them last year but otherwise really knocked over by this awful news.

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 7 May 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not over Nikki Sudden at all yet, so this is really a blow to my head (I'm not even over the passings of Nina Simone and Joe Strummer.) I've been a fan of the Go-Betweens since their time on Postcard, and I've known them since about 1983. I really believed that finally their career seemed on the verge of some sort of breakthrough, even if it were just on a Rufus Wainwright or Tom Waits kind of level - something less than top 40 pop hits, but money from films and decent touring revenues. Clearly, they deserved it.

Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Sunday, 7 May 2006 02:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't go out tonight (heh, maybe I should have). Instead I've been drinking wine, checking this thread, and running through the Go-Be's/McLennan catalogue. I must admit, every time I see the thread title my heart catches in my throat. "No more Go-Betweens songs? Ever?"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 7 May 2006 02:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm at a complete loss for words. RIP Grant.

TRG (TRG), Sunday, 7 May 2006 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Pontiac, MI at the 7th House

Haha, yeah, I was there too, great show. Shit, this is awful news, I'm heartbroken.

TRG (TRG), Sunday, 7 May 2006 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link

A great songwriter and someone who defined an image of Australia for me through his lyrics and music. "Cattle and Cane" is not his only legacy, thankfully, and I'll miss not getting to see how the band would age even more gracefully than they already have.

Guymauve (Guymauve), Sunday, 7 May 2006 03:24 (seventeen years ago) link

one of the bands that formed the soundtrack to my adolescence, but never, ever got stale... i can't imagine not looking forward to the next go-betweens album, it seems like i always have been.

gem (trisk), Sunday, 7 May 2006 06:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Jesus Christ! This is so unspeakably awful and 'unlikely'. Makes for the one GBs-related thread to which I don't know what to post... RIP GWM.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 7 May 2006 07:05 (seventeen years ago) link

This is very sad news indeed, such a charming engaging and fun man, as with gem their songs marked my Sydney adolescence. Thoughts go out to his family and of course Robert.

mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 7 May 2006 07:12 (seventeen years ago) link

and (duh, forgot), the Seattle GB's show was the best I saw in 2005. just amazing.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Sunday, 7 May 2006 07:39 (seventeen years ago) link

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mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 7 May 2006 08:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Just out of curiosity, how big were they in Australia?

ABC-TV (Aus) evening news just reported his death as the 3rd or 4th story. Which was pleasantly surprising. Many viewers of a certain age probably stopped chewing their dinner, even if he wasn't a household name...

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 7 May 2006 08:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Streets Of Your Town was certainly a radio hit, but as to how big they were in the mainstream media, not huge I think.

mentalist (mentalist), Sunday, 7 May 2006 08:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Just began to listen their works a few months ago...

zeus (zeus), Sunday, 7 May 2006 09:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Only discovered them a couple of years ago, seeing them live at the Corner in Melbourne, but they blew me away. I couldn't believe they hadn't achieved more widespread success, particularly in their own country, with such a strong catalogue.

Put '16 Lovers Lane' on at work on Friday and listened to it all the way through - I rarely do that with any album these days. Very, very sad news indeed.

wombatX (wombatX), Sunday, 7 May 2006 09:28 (seventeen years ago) link

ABC-TV (Aus) evening news just reported his death as the 3rd or 4th story.

Not in every state! Didn't get a mention on ABC News down my way.

Bring Me The Head of ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 7 May 2006 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh no. Just heard about it on 6Music news. This is heartbreaking news.
I've turned the radio off and am now playing Before Hollywood.

David Orton (scarlet), Sunday, 7 May 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost: wombatX, that's funny. I hadn't listened to them in months, but I was thinking about them, and especially Grant, on Friday. I played "Tallulah" tonight before I went to hear some "art music," and thought while I was out about how much he might have appreciated what I was listening to.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 7 May 2006 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link

That tribute gig looks great. Can't believe it's been 10 years.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 6 May 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link

I'm afraid to wear my Grant McLennan t-shirt anymore because I don't want it to fade.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 May 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

Lovely piece here

https://medium.com/@RyanMaffei/gentlemanly-melancholy-7ff32d02763f#.8ssrq56xz

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 May 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Is the book ever coming out in the US?

Barkis Garvey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 03:12 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Steve Kilbey's compiled and selling 3 hours of Jack Frost performance and interview footage as a download via his Facebook. $20 bucks. Grabbing it in the morning as I imagine it'll be perfect accompaniment to early Xmas Day wine drinking and vegetating.

So, This Leaked (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 06:02 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

I love this strummy alubm.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 April 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

*album even

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 April 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Fifteen years.

Robert Forster remembers:

https://www.facebook.com/robertforsterofficial/posts/202652301677146

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2021 03:39 (two years ago) link

Fifteen years since I wept at the passing of someone whom I didn't know personally. I now understand that I was grieving the end of the source of so much of the music that both defined and enhanced my youth. RIP Grant. Your songs were good company.

doug watson, Thursday, 6 May 2021 10:28 (two years ago) link

Coincidentally, I just bought his double album Horsebreaker Star after looking for it for a very long time. (It's not hard to find outside of the U.S., but I wanted a reasonable price for it since the U.S.-only single-disc version goes for peanuts, and I've been told that all but one of the excised cuts aren't really missed. I still wanted the original version though.)

I didn't listen to the Go-Betweens until well after Grant passed. Love them, wish I saw Grant and Robert on-stage when I had the chance.

birdistheword, Thursday, 6 May 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Happy birthday.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 February 2023 23:10 (one year ago) link


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