recommend me some lost shoegaze classics

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Toulouse's The Way The City Stretches is a bona-fide classic, even if it missed the shoegaze movement by a good 5 years. "Know Better" is stunning and always gets included on my shoegaze comps.

Another great band often overlooked is Half-String from Arizona. They put out several discs on IPR. A Fascination With Heights is the strongest in my book, with "Momentum" being my favorite amongst a strong set of songs.

Boston act the Curtain Society were on Bedazzled, their second disc Life Is Long Still is a bargain bin staple and worth the small change for the opener "Mouthwithout" ... perhaps one of my favorite opening riffs of a shoegaze song ever.

Another not mentioned is Alison's Dress (their comp was on Burnt Toast, "Torn is my fave).

I have a shoegaze CD-R I made for myself, if anyone wants a copy just drop me a note. Contains all the above and Ropers, All Natural Lemon & Lime Flavors, An April March, Revolver, Belltower and others mentioned above.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:40 (twenty years ago) link

Medicine again, and yes, that "Phonefreak Honey" single is great.

How 'bout the first two Straitjacket Fits records, if we're looking to Flying Nun type stuff? The first one especially is great...

M Specktor (M Specktor), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 16:12 (twenty years ago) link

Another not mentioned is Alison's Dress

You mean Alison's Halo. Since we're out here, Love Spirals Downwards' second album is a 'gazing classic in my book, it's called Ardor.

The Secret Shine compilation CD should be out soon, you won't go wrong with that.

Sugar Plant's most shoegazing album is probably Trance/Mellow, somewhere close to Slowdive's Souvlaki. Their first two albums are more in the Galaxie 500 vein... After After Hours is classic.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 16:40 (twenty years ago) link

rosemarys! the first album is great. the second album is okay. the lyrics are dire. This was probably the case with most shoegaze bands though most of them had the presence of mind not to print the lyrics in the booklet. the keyboardist, matt, is in Charles Atlas with a member of piano magic.

double recommendation for Swervedriver's first album.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 16:45 (twenty years ago) link

The Drop Nineteens! Just for "Winona".

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 16:47 (twenty years ago) link

I would like to big up Levitation some more if that's alright. Even When Your Eyes Are Open is just amazing.

I would also put in a small shout for Verve's early singles, Gravity Grave, She's a Superstar and All In the Mind. In fact, the whole of the Storm in Heaven album was the tail end of shoegazing-type music for me, and reminds me what a beautiful band they were before they went shit. Although they weren't really shoegazers per se, it fitted in with what I was listening to at the time.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think I'd call Levitation shoegazers.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 16:55 (twenty years ago) link

Codeine's "Barely Real" is king of shoegazery, and pretty good. Or is it slowcore? Or sadcore? Or spacerock? Oh, whatever....

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 16:56 (twenty years ago) link

"king of shoegazery"=kind of shoegazery

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 16:57 (twenty years ago) link

I gotta represent SouthEastern Michigan here - there was somewhat of a shoegazer revival/resurgence here in the late 90's - it has died down for the most part but definitely had its moments.

Two of the bigger local labels were Mind Expansion Records & Burnt Hair Records- some of the local acts included Fuxa, Windy & Carl (who run a nice indie record shop in Dearborn - Stormy Records), Miss Bliss, Tomorrowland (more ambient/idm, but in the same local scene), His Name is Alive, Auburn Lull, & Transient Waves (outta Philly but w/ ties to the Michigan scene).

Other related stuff was coming out around the US as well from the likes of Darla Records & Kranky Records, and groups like Hopewell (members of Mercury Rev), Jessamine, Bowery Electric, etc, etc..

pete from the street, Wednesday, 8 October 2003 17:26 (twenty years ago) link

>Toulouse's The Way The City Stretches is a bona-fide classic, even if >it missed the shoegaze movement by a good 5 years. "Know Better" is >stunning and always gets included on my shoegaze comps.

bona-fide classic, absolutely! i never tire of this wonderful record, which recreates dreamlike strolls in rainy cities like few others have done. their later garage-mod output is...interesting, but i never listen to it much. are half-string or curtain society anything like toulouse?

chomicat, Wednesday, 8 October 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think I'd call Levitation shoegazers.

I wouldn't have automatically thought of Levitation as shoegazers either, but someone else did upthread (I wouldn't describe them as also-rans either).

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 17:59 (twenty years ago) link

the glass bead game is rubbish, but the smashing orange stuff from before that is great. the other sweet jesus songs were as good as phonefreak honey also, search everything by them

charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:01 (twenty years ago) link

I love Fuxa! the latest album in particular. I even liked the one before that that everyone hated.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:26 (twenty years ago) link

codeine <> shoegazer

i'd call them "indie-rock" but those more genre-centric may refer to them as "slow-core".

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:37 (twenty years ago) link

see also the Ropers, from Washington DC.

still extant bands out here:
Color Wall, from LA
The Jealous Type, from Ann Arbor, MI
The Flashing Astonishers, from i ferget where

oh yeah, and the Dykehouse album, when it finally comes out.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

We totally love looking at our shoes.

The comp that comes with the new issue is really really good.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

Also, somebody in this bitch should give love to Paik.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

I randomly came across The Meeting Places the other day and thought they were pretty keen (and also have an ex-Alison's Halo/Amnesia guy on guitar).

Other Medicine-influenced California-based shoegazers of note: The Lassie Foundation.

Nick Mirov (nick), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

Speaking of California, Check out Tristeza and The Album Leaf.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

electro-group too. are they still together?

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:33 (twenty years ago) link

also, most of the Ochre records catalog! Land of Nod, CA, the new Mellow Drunk record (w/the drummer from the Rosemarys and rick who was in spectrum for a bit.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

Worth a listen is "Shine" by Bailter Space, which was a b-side to the dull "The Aim".

Conor (Conor), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

Pale Saints' "In Ribbons" is great in places.

Apart from them, burn the rest except MBV obviously.

Keith Watson (kmw), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

lovesliescrushing - Bloweyelashwish

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 8 October 2003 21:54 (twenty years ago) link

electro group just released a 7" on (ta da!) Clairecords so i think they're still around.

mention of IPR is OTM - an amazing label. everything i buy on that label is a gem of shoegazing or Factory/4AD influenced wonderment.

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:01 (twenty years ago) link

the Ropers album on Slumberland is not only a shoegaze classic but one of my top ten records of all time. i'd listen to it before everything else on this thread.

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:02 (twenty years ago) link

"Morningrise" single by Slowdive. Was better than anything on their first album.

Neil FC (Neil FC), Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:28 (twenty years ago) link

Gaslight Radio - Hitch On The Leaves

One of my all-time favourites.

Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:51 (twenty years ago) link

supercar - "storywriter"

fernando, Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

Catherine Wheel - "Ferment" & "Chrome"

steve, Thursday, 9 October 2003 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

gaslight radio shoegaze? surely shome mishtake? (namedrop: i used to be in a band with their keyboard player)

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 01:13 (twenty years ago) link

i've seen them loosely defined as such, and i can see why. they don't fit a strict definition, though.

Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Thursday, 9 October 2003 01:14 (twenty years ago) link

the best lost shoegaze band from detroit was Spectacle, their mini-cd 'developing in a world without sound' was sorta like a cross between slowdive and pale saints. then their manager took their name and moved to LA and made a terrible record, or something like that.

keith (keithmcl), Thursday, 9 October 2003 02:54 (twenty years ago) link

Gaslight Radio! Man, I thought only Chris Barrus and I knew about them, at least on here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 October 2003 03:51 (twenty years ago) link

i always felt they were horrifically overrated but i was pleasantly surprised when i heard their album

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 03:52 (twenty years ago) link

These bands always struck me as "post-shoegaze" or dream pop:

Mogwai
GYBE!
(some) Mercury Rev
Sigur Ros

turkey (turkey), Thursday, 9 October 2003 06:54 (twenty years ago) link

And STILL nobody has mentioned Whipping Boy, who made two early shoegazing classic EPs - because shoegazing was an EP kind of genre - and a ropey LP and then disappeared for a few years to come back even better but not shoegazey. So, search out the two EPs on Cheree which are great stuff.

Do Lorelei count too? Their early singles were pretty shoegazey. And the Moon Seven Times?

Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 9 October 2003 07:06 (twenty years ago) link

are half-string or curtain society anything like toulouse?

Half-String have the right tone but not as many hooks and the singer is slightly more mopey. Curtain Society have the hooks but are more crisp than Toulouse. I definitely recommend Half-String's A Fascination With Heights.

And everyone who praised the Ropers as one of the best groups of all time is unequivocably correct. Don't forget the early singles, handily compiled on the s/t ep. Does anyone here have the Boyracer/Ropers tour split 7" ... I've been dying to hear that song for years.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Thursday, 9 October 2003 20:49 (twenty years ago) link

And STILL nobody has mentioned Whipping Boy

I have the Whipping Boy album (Heartworm) and consider When We Were Young as one of the great lost singles of all time, but in no way on this earth would I ever have thought of them as shoegazers.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 October 2003 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

Does anyone here have the Boyracer/Ropers tour split 7" ... I've been dying to hear that song for years.

i have that, somewhere in the deep recesses of my vinyl stacks. i'll have a look for it. it's a nice track..

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 22:59 (twenty years ago) link

Always thought Whipping Boy were more aligned to the Catherine Wheel/Puressence 'we're secretly influenced by the Chameleons and the Sound and all that but I suppose we should have snorted more cocaine like Interpol and then we'd be famous or something' school.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 October 2003 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

they did get that way with the second album, yes

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

first puressence album > second whipping boy album > second puressence album > first whipping boy album >>>>>>> catherine wheel

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 9 October 2003 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

the nightblooms

bob snoom, Thursday, 16 October 2003 11:22 (twenty years ago) link

aurevoir borealis is a beautiful newish, shoegazer-y band from detroit who released a lovely six song ep on windy and carl's label, friends of the czars even. of course the czars aren't shoegazers so nevermind that.

keith (keithmcl), Thursday, 16 October 2003 23:27 (twenty years ago) link


some great stuff above. seems like there's some stuff here and there that's not so shoegazerish... or at least it's not what shoegazer meant 10 years ago.

reminds me... guitar "sunkissed" by morr... what if the sneaker pimps did a shoegaze record?
m.

msp, Friday, 17 October 2003 02:05 (twenty years ago) link

Shoegazer fans may like the, er, "mix-cd" from the Martini Bros (billed as "DJ Cle & Mike Vamp") called Cruising - large amounts of it mine a sort of shoegazer/krautrock/electro intersection, with their own track "Happiness" sounding like one of the longer tracks from Kitchens of Distinction's "Death Of Cool".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 17 October 2003 12:46 (twenty years ago) link

Some guy in the local alterna-weekly called Low shoegazer recently. That might be a good description, but they don't really fall under that genre's guidelines.

boldbury, Friday, 17 October 2003 14:32 (twenty years ago) link

And while, Bedhead isn't really labeled as 'shoegazer', I think there is definitely some shoegazer-type stuff on their WhatFunLifeWas, like "Haywire" and "Living Well", in particular.

boldbury, Friday, 17 October 2003 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

Secret Shine - Toward the Sky:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om-KCC4GRyQ

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 4 February 2023 08:16 (one year ago) link

I love both versions of Never Dream At All, long time fan of the Nightblooms

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Saturday, 4 February 2023 10:42 (one year ago) link

Maybe more dreamy than shoey, but anilore (Hudson valley/Brooklyn) got back together, reissued their 90s record, and put out 2 new things that keep the original flames alive w much fancier pedal boards

https://anilore.bandcamp.com/album/still-awake

bb, Saturday, 4 February 2023 12:48 (one year ago) link

ArchCarrier - I discovered Bizarre's Beautica on a shoegaze forum and I was very fond of it at the time, nice to see it's been reissued but still no CD

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 4 February 2023 13:13 (one year ago) link

Anilore sounds good, new to me

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 4 February 2023 14:28 (one year ago) link

Yes, same here!

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 4 February 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link

On the Secret Shine tip, I've been really loving Dreamscape this week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zNabzf8POw

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Saturday, 4 February 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link

Truly a very lost classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0cffRUsuxg

Evan, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 12:44 (one year ago) link

I don't think Polar made anything quite as good as Con Dolore's This Sad Movie (I still consider both Polar albums very great) but this is one of my favorite Polar songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEYL28yFgtE

I could swear the singer had another band going after with tracks on Myspace, she was fantastic

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 February 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

The new Pencey Sloe album strikes me as a future lost shoegaze classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLv0P5dKClA

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Monday, 13 February 2023 02:14 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Okay so wayyyyy back on this thread a few of us were talking about Australia's Gaslight Radio, who had shoegaze in their makeup if not totally that. They've recently put up a best of on Spotify and a slightly older one on Bandcamp -- worth checking out:

https://gaslightradio.bandcamp.com/album/best-of-gaslight-radio-1996-2006

https://open.spotify.com/album/13LPSQCsi5BNXoCQhMFASl

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 February 2023 03:31 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

Difference Engine quietly released their shelved 1994 album Flex Lavender on streaming services last year, with no accompanying info and no mention of a forthcoming physical release 🤔. it's less Disco Inferno and more Stereolab (at least on the Margie-sung tracks) than Breadmaker) and veers into trip-hop-gaze on the last track. imo the first six tracks + the intro of 'Sky Hutch' would have made for one of the best EPs of the era. it gets a little more pedestrian after that but it's solid enough throughout

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osSfzmpyEoI

hogarth brooks (unregistered), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 02:38 (two months ago) link


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