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Why's there such a big cult of personality around a recording engineer? I don't get it.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:23 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Because it's fun.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Because of where he PLACES THE MICROPHONES. Ooooh!

hstencil, Monday, 25 November 2002 20:35 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

''Why's there such a big cult of personality around a recording engineer? I don't get it.''

um, he's not just a recording engineer sundar. shellac, rapeman and big black were/are good rock bands.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 25 November 2002 20:58 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

It's because of his music? That's even weirder.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 25 November 2002 21:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

OK he does come across as an idiot and this 'cult' you talk abt (well, since I do live in the UK and don't mix in indie circles)... its the first time I heard of it b-but I like his bands.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 25 November 2002 21:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Because there are two people here and I want you to kill them.

donut bitch (donut), Monday, 25 November 2002 22:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Because of where he PLACES THE MICROPHONES. Ooooh!

oh... don't forget the record buttons! and those level knobs! oh shit... and the pan knob!

(really tho... all respect due...)

msp, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 03:56 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i think you're confusing tracking with mixing

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 04:01 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I saw Shellac like a month ago. I went because Rye Coalition were opening, and if you don't know about them, ya betta axe somebody. I was thinking about going up to Steve and saying (in numbnuts doofus voice) "Uh, Mister Albini, here's a tape of stuff I did on my 4-track with about $500 worth of equipment. Do you think you could listen to it, and then tell me if I have any talent that you could perhaps mold into something great, take me under your wing, as it goes?" But I drank to many beers and had to leave 3 songs into Shellacs set, so it didn't happen.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 04:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

You guys are nerds.
Seriously. Steve Albini is not Julia Roberts and you are not Mary Hart.

E-to-the-Izzo, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:22 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

And you're not H.L. Mencken so step off already.

hstencil, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:30 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

But you are Dorothy Parker.
No wait, you're W.C. Fields. Or maybe Otto Fishbine? Ian Blurton perhaps?
I always thought it was the thundering/echo-y drums that indicated the Albini-signature sound?

I'm just wondering, I mean, I like some of Albini's stuff as a guitarist, and I certainly own no shortage of Albini-produced/recorded/engineered alb's, but I buy those to hear the band, not the Bean.

I mean, I wouldn't eat burnt fries just because they were made with PEI spuds.

E-to-the-Izzo, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Dude, I'm totally Groucho Marx.

hstencil, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:44 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Then I get to be Margaret Dumont.

E-to-the-Izzo, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:47 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Well then I'd totally swoon over you, but I don't know you that well.

hstencil, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

If you knew me better, you wouldn't swoon.
No wait! You're Groucho!
Maybe I should just be Harpo.


E-to-the-Izzo, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 16:57 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Why's there such a big cult of personality around a recording engineer? I don't get it.
It's because of his music? That's even weirder.

sundar you are needed on those threads about Pop processes and performers.....
It looks like you'd be on the 'Pop Personalities! They're GrrrrrrrrATE!' side of things, since there's an implication from the above that the engineering/musician thing should be just be a backroom work-like function? Or have I just misinterpreted a joke?
(I'm not having a go here - I'm genuinely curious....)

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 17:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

albert, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 21:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I always thought it was the thundering/echo-y drums that indicated the Albini-signature sound?

you're kidding, right? his are the dryest drums i can think of.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 22:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

not one drop of reverb allowed near the ambient drum mics (all 150 of them... haha)

gygax!, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 22:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ILM-friendly Albini article...

oh no it's INDIE!

gygax!, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 22:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

been reading the luke haines book where he speaks fondly about steve albini (and NO ONE ELSE at all ever), which got me thinking about that 2+2 thread where albini answered a bunch of questions about his career. i read all through it a few years back and im sure he spoke about luke haines/auteurs but i can't find it on there, any ilxors remember?

NI, Monday, 18 May 2009 12:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

that is so fucking inspiring

not the post office security crap, albini's secret santa thing

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 10:37 (eight years ago) Permalink


that is an awesome thing to do. Silly postal service.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 11:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

The couple contacted U.S. Rep. Danny Davis, D-Ill., who told them he would look into the post office's policy change. But after talking to postal officials, Davis decided he agreed with the policy change.

"Better to be safe than sorry, that what my momma used to tell us," Davis said. "You can't be too protective."

Well... Yes, you can.

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

That distinctive metallic chingety-ching guitar sound that Albini gets on 'Kerosene' etc... from now on I will only ever hear that as the sound of badly-mic'ed sleigh bells.

The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

aw that's a real nice thing steve.

IT WASN'T NOT FUNNY! (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

er, I thought Albini was a jerk. CONFUSING

lukevalentine, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

i met him once when shellac played my friend's wedding and he was super nice and polite, even talked with their parents and everything.

IT WASN'T NOT FUNNY! (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

Line-up for next week's Letters to Santa benefit in Chicago. Second City has about 200 seats, so it's a nice, intimate place to see bands. I saw Shellac there at 3 a.m. a few years ago, for an audience of about 50; saw Tweedy, Robbie Fulks, and Jason Molina as well. The Blisters is Tweedy's kid's band--maybe 12 years old, now.

Again. Again. Again.
24 hours of improvisation and music.
Second City ETC
1608 N Wells St Chicago, IL
$15 for entire 24 hours
Tickets available at the door only.
Tuesday December 15 6pm through Wednesday December 16 6pm
Auction items, raffle prizes, music and funny

Confirmed Special Guests
7pm Jeff Tweedy
10pm Robbie Fulks
Midnight Asssscat with Horatio Sanz & Matt Walsh with Chicago Guests
3am Flash Mob Marching Band
6am Bonnie Prince Billy
Noon Nina Nastasia
2pm The Mountain Goats
4:30pm The Blisters

Action Orientation (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

haha, Shellac plays weddings? wow. but yeah, it seems like Albini likes (or liked) being provocative, but most people who work with him seem to love the guy.

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah basically my friends are super fans and his wife to be just emailed bob weston i think and ended up chatting with them about it...they basically had to pay enough to cover the opening touring band's room & board (had a band from NZ on the shellac tour) but anyway it worked out with their schedule and it was really fun, my old band got to open...

they played most of "la grange" and about 30 second of "shout at the devil" wish i recorded that set

IT WASN'T NOT FUNNY! (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Steve Albini's cookery blog..

Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 10 June 2011 11:04 (six years ago) Permalink

"I have also successfully cooked for our cats."


Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 10 June 2011 11:05 (six years ago) Permalink

I like how if you go back to the first few entries it reads like the blandest most uninspired cooking blog ever - think there might have been rather a lot of feet-finding here

his 'great mate' Luke Haines just started one as well, can't quite figure out how much his recipes are trolling (unless you're Paul Weller)

Beth Gibbons & Foreskin Man (DJ Mencap), Friday, 10 June 2011 12:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Now that is worth bookmarking!

Mark G, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:03 (six years ago) Permalink

lol yeah I subscribed to that one

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:07 (six years ago) Permalink

he sure does make a lot of pasta

call all destroyer, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Love how all of Albini's hobbies - online poker! cooking blog! - reveal him to be the nice, normal guy his reputation doesn't always convey. Though I think he's mellowed a lot as he creeps toward 50.

Now, an Ian MacKaye cooking blog, that would be a surprise.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:21 (six years ago) Permalink

I remember when Fugazi did a recipe column for Maximum Rock'n'Roll and it was for fucking oatmeal, no joke.

NickB, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:24 (six years ago) Permalink

The Haines food blog is fucking great.

oppet, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Luke Haines?

kornrulez6969, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:41 (six years ago) Permalink


Ian M.'s been a vegetarian for awhile and a parent for a few years so maybe he could do some interesting blog posts

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:43 (six years ago) Permalink

in some recent henry rollins interview (on wtf i think) he was talking about how he basically hates the whole 'eating' thing and mostly eats oatmeal.

adult music person (Jordan), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:46 (six years ago) Permalink

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 10 June 2011 13:47 (six years ago) Permalink

The only time I have ever followed a musician's recipe was when I made spicy bean burgers from Richard Youngs' vegan cookbook. They were horrible btw and my family hated them.

NickB, Friday, 10 June 2011 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Please tell me that somewhere in the comments on the Albini blog, Michael Gerard has complained about the quality of his hamburgers.

NickB, Friday, 10 June 2011 14:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Has anyone ever taken him to task for Run N***** Run or (apparently, I've only ever seen this as an aside) praising Skrewdriver?

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 6 May 2016 00:38 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure he has an excellent answer to any questions about his past, so I don't think it's really worth asking him. He's very well-spoken.

dlp9001, Friday, 6 May 2016 00:39 (one year ago) Permalink

I have no idea about either of those things, but I seem to recall the original incarnation of the latter bunch of national front assholes being not racist.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 May 2016 00:45 (one year ago) Permalink

that is the case yes

they are mentioned along with a dozen or so other acts in the liner notes to 'Sound of Impact' as examples of abrasive music he likes

reader, if you love him so much why don't you marry him? (DJ Mencap), Friday, 6 May 2016 09:02 (one year ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

I'm only sharing this cuz I'm in the article

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 27 April 2017 17:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

six months pass...

city worker, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 19:55 (two months ago) Permalink

That's hilarious.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 20:15 (two months ago) Permalink

"Let's go after this song"

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 21:56 (two months ago) Permalink

that fucking rules

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 21 November 2017 22:28 (two months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

2007 AMA on a poker msg board:

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 21:51 (one month ago) Permalink

Are we celebrating its 10 yr anniversary? He does good Q&A.

I have pretty much always had a weird guitar sound. My early heroes were Johnny Ramone, Ricky Wilson, Keith Levine, Santiago Durango, Colin Newman and Andy Gill. I later came to appreciate (steal from) Billy Gibbons and Wilco Johnson as well.

I love how he used Urge Overkill as a stock answer for any "worst band/most difficult to work with/overrated" type questions.

Also, being the thirtieth reference to McLusky in this thread, it threatens to trivialize them in the way the rest of us hope to trivialize Urge Overkill.

I think you're a defeatist and you are destined not to enjoy music. If you wait for other people to thrust music under your nose, you'll be listening to nothing but crap for a long while, because that's what gets thrust at us. Music is not a spectator sport.

'I want Iggy to be as rich and popular as Justin Timberlake'

Rich, okay, but what benefit is it to the world to have douchebags and Justin Timberlake fans listening to Iggy Pop? Not everything is for everybody, and I don't think everything is universally improved if you lay it on with a ladle.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 22 December 2017 17:40 (four weeks ago) Permalink

This is fun, drumming podcast interview with Albini and his BB era drum machine -

MaresNest, Friday, 22 December 2017 20:05 (four weeks ago) Permalink

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