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It is strange - in an interesting way; I like metatheatrical Shakespeare. The epilogue chimes somewhat with the Induction - how much drama in that mere stage direction, 'Enter Rumour, Painted Full of Tongues'! And how about the offer to dance, and the mysterious claim that 'All the gentlewomen here have forgiven me'? The note to my text says 'perhaps the Epilogue was spoken by the Page', as though that explains it. According, again, to my text, the function of at least the last para of the Epilogue is to dissociate Falstaff from his historical model Sir John Oldcastle, by saying that they met different ends.

Very strange. Empson again (Kenyon Review, Spring 1953): Falstaff's 'food for powder' speech says to HIV: "that is all you Norman lords want, in your squabbles between cousins over your loot, which you make an excuse to murder the English people".

― the pinefox, Monday, 21 April 2003 15:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

JD: you should also look at

C.L. Barber, Shakespeare's Festive Comedy (1959) on folk tradition and carnival (and cf also Bakhtin, Rabelais And His World)

Robert Ornstein, A Kingdom For A Stage (1972), on history and Shakespeare's aesthetic play with it in the histories

Derek Cohen, Shakespearean Motives (1988), on rituals of violence

Graham Holderness, Shakespeare's History (1985), on politics of Shakespeare's epic drama

― the pinefox, Monday, 21 April 2003 20:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

two months pass...

Justyn D: I have been meaning to tell you that GEORGE ORWELL, in some brief early-40s piece, also agrees with us about 'Prince Hal', whose name I still seem unable to write without inverted commas.

― the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 July 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

I've seen a supposedly complete collection of Orwell's essays around; next time I'm in the bookstore I'll see if I can find that piece.

question for debate: who was the Hal/Henry V of Orwell's day?

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:33 (twenty years ago) link

The Enigma machine?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:34 (twenty years ago) link

saw hank 5 yesterday, loved it.
prince hal and all that.

― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:43 (twenty years ago) link

has anyone ever read the humour piece called "Prince Harry Hotspur"? It's about some schoolboy who didn't pay attention and ended up thinking that Prince Hal and Harry Hotspur were the same person. He then has to explain away the scene where they FITE as being Prince Hotspur taking on the dark side of his character.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:55 (twenty years ago) link

That sounds like something Kramer would do.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:56 (twenty years ago) link

Actually it's more Joey from Friends.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:56 (twenty years ago) link

I wuv Shakespeare as a playwright. It's strange, but he is always held up as being the pinnacle of drama, yet no one tries to write like him (you know, write plays with battles and political events and wars and stuff in them).

one day I will change this.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:57 (twenty years ago) link

no one writes plays where everyone talks in iambic pentameter either. someone should change this.

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:58 (twenty years ago) link

DV, do you know Edward Bond's Lear?

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 21:59 (twenty years ago) link

i don't know that play.

did Edward Bond do Early Morning, the one about Queen Victoria having an affair with Florence Nightingale, and her heir being half of a pair of siamese twins?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 22:11 (twenty years ago) link

http://teacherweb.com/IL/Golf67/Joyner/Shnikeys-Shakespeare.jpg

― Dada, Tuesday, 8 July 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

(you know, write plays with battles and political events and wars and stuff in them)

Surely, in its way, Angels In America fits this criterion.

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 8 July 2003 23:04 (twenty years ago) link

twelve years pass...

just watching this again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xHlngY6Bgk

as a result of reading this
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/apr/03/ian-mckellen-10-best-shakespeare-roles-on-film?CMP=fb_gu

proper chills.

― piscesx, Sunday, 3 April 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.shakespeare-online.com/faq/misquotesfaq.html

― Psmith, Pharmacist (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 February 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08b2cgm

Released On: 21 Apr 2020

Khalid Abdalla, Matthew Needham and Cassie Layton star in Shakespeare's tragedy. This version is staged in an imagined near future, in which a power-hungry Turkish president attempts an attack on Cyprus. The western forces rush to Cyprus' defence, under the command of the fearless General Othello. But can an Arab-born, Christian convert ever be truly accepted by the people he serves?

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 11:09 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Shakespeare our contemporary. pic.twitter.com/fxFi5WijMy
— Stephen Unwin (@RoseUnwin) January 25, 2023

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 09:58 (one year ago) link

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