RW Fassbinder: C/D, S/D, Y/DA-Y/DA

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has anyone here actually seen ALL of herr fasbinder's movies? like all 20,000 of them?

You know, we attempted to do this once but they had a cap on how many movies you could rent out at one time at V1deo 2 G0 and slowly but surely the place's actually very impressive collection of RWF films started disappearing...so we kind of meh'ed it off and bogarted another director's collection instead. Lili Marleen is probably the one I like best when I think about it and force myself to decide.

big dvd release for half of his films pretty soon.

This is good news, cf. the first half of my post! When I go back to Amherst maybe we can work on completing our goal now.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

ah, but probably the *same* half that's been out in the states for a while!

as yet no-one's done 'the third generation' fer example.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Hold on, I'm going away to count how many I've seen...

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Only 24!

Querelle
Veronika Voss
Lola
Berlin Alexanderplatz
Despair
In a Year with 13 Moons
The Marriage of Maria Braun
Bolwieser
Chinese Roulette
Satan’s Brew
I Only Want You to Love Me
Fear of Fear
Faustrecht der Freiheit
Mother Küsters’ Trip to Heaven
Effi Briest
Fear Eats the Soul
The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant
The Merchant of Four Seasons
Pioneers in Ingolstadt
The American Soldier
Beware of a Holy Whore
Rios Das Mortes
Gods of the Plague
Katzelmacher

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

But Enrique we didn't get through the available half (DVD and VHS tho, we had both goin on) due to video store indie hipster theft so still ok :D

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

dada u srsly saw 'Berlin Alexanderplatz'?

kudos man.

it's fucking 28 hours long.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

It was on telly, back when telly was good. Which is also where I first saw:

Veronika Voss
Lola
Despair
The Marriage of Maria Braun
Bolwieser
Chinese Roulette
I Only Want You to Love Me
Faustrecht der Freiheit
Effi Briest
Fear Eats the Soul
The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant
The Merchant of Four Seasons
Pioneers in Ingolstadt
The American Soldier
Beware of a Holy Whore
Rios Das Mortes
Gods of the Plague
Katzelmacher

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Well it's not like you have to sit and watch it all in one sitting. xpost

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

They showed it on Channel 4 in weekly episodes

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

it's funny cos sontag in her piece on the 'death of cinephilia' about ten years ago mentioned 'alexanderplatz' as the kind of film today's mtv-bred, michael bay-loving kids couldn't take in the cinema (as opposed to evil tv) because of its duration (which, of course, was only really take-able by semi-employed dudes like... susan sontag).

natch it was made for tv.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, I don't think very many people, old or young of Michael Bay, would find it easy to sit in a theatre for 15 and a half hours, that's kind of a bit of nonsense. I mean it wasn't technically made to be sat thru straight in a theatre.

Whatever, ppl be having their rather ridiculous strawmen shocker.

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 5 May 2006 14:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Alexanderplatz is 'only' 15-1/2 hours...
Saw it in 2 sittings, MoMA 1997. Fassbinder's assistant (and legal wife) said he preferred it be seen in two large chunks. Günter Lamprecht and Gottfried John were there, too.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 May 2006 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I doubt RWF himself ever watched it in one sitting, I doubt he could have sat still long enough

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 14:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean it wasn't technically made to be sat thru straight in a theatre.
Whatever, ppl be having their rather ridiculous strawmen shocker.

-- Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyza...), May 5th, 2006.


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[...] Fassbinder's assistant (and legal wife) said he preferred it be seen in two large chunks. [...]

-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...), May 5th, 2006.

dada otm, this is one of those occasions when you can safely ignore a famously egocentric cokehound.

the Enrique who edits for clarity (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Kudos however to anyone who's watched "Eight Hours Are Not A Day" in one sitting!

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Well you can always "safely" ignore them, it's not like you're going to ruin your experience by watching it in four goes or something.

I can see why he'd say he preferred it to be watched in larger chunks, though but there can be logistical difficulties with that (ie I'm hoping the movie theatre gave intermissions so viewers didn't have to miss 5 minute bits and pieces of the movie if they had to pee sometime during the 8 hours--and also for those of us who can hold it, so we don't have to miss parts of the movie for ppl getting up and down constantly!).

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 5 May 2006 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Just had a phone call to ask if I want to go and see "Maria Braun" tomorrow night (free tickets). Juliane Lorenz will be there. It's not my favourite but it's free!

Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Search for the book 'Love is Colder Than Death', far more entertaining than his films and brimming with omgwtf moments.

dr lulu (dr lulu), Saturday, 6 May 2006 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
exciting

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Monday, 17 July 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

What do customers ultimately buy after viewing items like this?
50% buy the item featured on this page:The Third Generation DVD ~ Hanna Schygulla


This should put paid to that little statistic.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 17 July 2006 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
What's the deal here? 3rd Generation was part of the box sets mentionned on top of this thread.

Das Spiel ist aus für Baaderonixx (baaderonixx), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess that might have been Europe-only.

Related question: I swore I saw a 'Berlin Alexanderplatz' DVD box set somewhere in a shop, but all searches on Amazon come up blank. Did I dream this up? Any idea when that might happen?

Das Spiel ist aus für Baaderonixx (baaderonixx), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:53 (seventeen years ago) link

looks like there's no proper release but that you can maybe get it on DVD from here

RJG (RJG), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:59 (seventeen years ago) link

This film, which is basically the longest narrative film ever made...

IT IS A TV SERIES

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 10:06 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...
Peer Raben dies:

http://daily.greencine.com/archives/003110.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

RIP Peer.

The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

reissue soundtracks asap

esp. Chinese Roulette

this compilation is outstanding

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

aw man. i love the theme from "lili marleen."

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 06:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Would be awesome if 'Berlin..' ws broadcast on BBC4? Don't see why not (unless there are restricttions placed on that by Fassbinder's ppl), they did a broadcast of 'Dekalog' in 2005 (or ws it last year).

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 11:59 (seventeen years ago) link

would like to see

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i would watch the crazy final part. i managed to miss the entirety of 'heimat' the other year.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
new yarkers, prepare..

http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/film_media/2007/Fassbinder.html

poortheatre, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

ughhhh why couldn't this be like a month later

(i'm still going anyway)

impudent harlot, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Peer Raben dies:
http://daily.greencine.com/archives/003110.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius) on Monday, 22 January 2007 21:33 (1 month ago)


Oh man, I just discovered this, RIP "Willi". I hope Kurt Raab is still alive.

Tom D., Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:24 (seventeen years ago) link

http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/amg/pop_albums/9/4/0/d94153x470x.jpg

Want it!

Tom D., Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:53 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...

on the Alexanderplatz Criterion box

Dr Morbius, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

How did we talk about movies before we had polls.

Casuistry, Friday, 22 June 2007 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

We groped and stumbled.

baaderonixx, Monday, 25 June 2007 08:21 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I watched the Marriage of Maria Braun this week and really, really enjoyed it. There are an awful lot of European films like that that don't do anything for me, so I was really surprised. I also managed to correctly guess he was a Gemini just by watching this film. I love all the short twists and turns to it and you never know exactly what to expect. At first the baffling ending troubled me and I thought it ruined the whole rest of the movie until I rewound and watched it one more time and then I understood. A very complex film, I thought, and a masterpiece.

I watched Querelle a long, long time ago with a friend. I don't remember what I thought of it, really. But I remember it had that famous French woman in it...Moreau, that's it. I remember there being something kindof humorous about her in that.

Bimble, Saturday, 18 August 2007 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

berlin alexanderplatz coming out in nov.

impudent harlot, Saturday, 18 August 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

(er, on dvd)

impudent harlot, Saturday, 18 August 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Read a collection of essays, interviews, etc recently, greatly titled "Anarchy of the Imagination". There is a short story, of sorts - more like a film of his on 20 pages that kinda did my head in for the rest of the day hurrah.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 August 2007 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay, I thought Lola was embarrassingly and irritatingly boringly bad. I even watched the Blue Angel just before it (the film with Marlene Dietrich that Fassbinder was supposed to be doing a tribute to with 'Lola') and man, I just don't get it. If the name of the film is Lola, why not make Lola the main character? And while we're at it, let's get a better plot and choose a different actress altogether!

Bimble, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 05:31 (sixteen years ago) link

yr mad.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:21 (sixteen years ago) link

http://sctv.org/characters/lola/lola.gif

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

yes, Bobby Bittman wd've directed the SCTV remake of Fassbinder

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link

With Ed Grimley as Franz Biberkopf.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

WAY too much of his stuff out there right now.

tailor-made kitsch for anomic urban intellectuals. fuck it.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 28 October 2007 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

penetrating criticism there

J0hn D., Sunday, 28 October 2007 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Finally watched Martha, a rather sour Sirk pastiche with hints of Gaslight.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 09:50 (eleven months ago) link

It’s awesome—Fassbinder called it a sadist and a masochist finding the ideal partner. Is it on DVD?

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 May 2023 12:12 (eleven months ago) link

And of course there’s this dynamo of a shot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiS2kJCLhgA

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 12:21 (eleven months ago) link

Yes, I saw it on DVD.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 May 2023 12:25 (eleven months ago) link

It's on Criterion Channel too.

Id put it into the second-tier because the first half faffs around a bit.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 12:31 (eleven months ago) link

Gets more and more hysterical as it goes on.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:33 (eleven months ago) link

what kind of freak gets in the front seat of a taxi

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:40 (eleven months ago) link

It's not top-tier RWF, sure.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:41 (eleven months ago) link

I don't know, it's pretty damn good!

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:42 (eleven months ago) link

Exactly -- good not great!

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:54 (eleven months ago) link

Good, not Querelle

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:13 (eleven months ago) link

a milkshake?

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 May 2023 14:14 (eleven months ago) link


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