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english, a little bit of french.
spanish and catalan, obviously (if you know where i come from, that is).

joan vich (joan vich), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 08:18 (twenty years ago) link

German (duh), everything else is all but rusted shut.

nestmanso (nestmanso), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 09:57 (twenty years ago) link

Hangukmal, nihongo, zhongwen (last two are crap and the first ain't so great) also "Ich haben ein eisenpenis!" + "pinche lavaplatos!"

Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:41 (twenty years ago) link

i speak worcester. believe me its a foreign language to anyone who hasn't heard it.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:44 (twenty years ago) link

Mmm, though Finnish and Estonian are pretty similar in a few respects, my comprehension of what our overseas relatives are really talking about is patchy at best.

Likewise, dear neighbour. Me, I speak Finnish, obviously, Swedish and a bit of German, though I think since high school my German skills have lowered to the level of "Ich habe Sauerkraut in meine Lederhosen."

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:48 (twenty years ago) link

There's also the foreign tongue thread.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:51 (twenty years ago) link

"Ich haben ein eisenpenis!"

Try "Ich habe einen Stahlschwanz" instead. Iron rusts, you don't want that.

Sommermute (Wintermute), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 10:52 (twenty years ago) link

French, a bit of Spanish, and I uhhhh, one did half a year of intensive Norwegian in order to prepare for a move to Norway that never happened, so now you know where my name comes from (kinda).

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 18:02 (twenty years ago) link

"the norwegians are leaving! the norwegians are leaving!"

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

Have taken French and Swahili, barely remember them. (Fermez la bouche, tete de banane! Actually, I don't know if that's even spelled right. Oh well, hakuna matata). Am taking Spanish now -- took it in high school, forgot it, better at it now. In the fall, Old Icelandic and probably Italian.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

Try "Ich habe einen Stahlschwanz" instead. Iron rusts, you don't want that.

my uncle has the stahlschwanz, I get it whenever he gekickens der bücket.

Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 19:12 (twenty years ago) link

one did half a year of intensive Norwegian

Why did I write this like I'm referring to myself as royalty?

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

fluent Spanish
survival everyday French
took intensive Portuguese (Brazillian) but don't remember much of it.

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 20:25 (twenty years ago) link

fluent:
english

fairly fluent:
spanish

"hi how are you where is ____ may i have thank you excuse me":
french
german
czech
italian
japanese
cantonese

o catholic school and classics studies, almost entirely forgotten/repressed:
latin
ancient greek

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 20:51 (twenty years ago) link

Rusty French and remnants of past fluency in German.

I can buy beer in russian, spanish, greek, german.

In college a friend of mine said that all the Spanish she needed or cared to know was "Dos cervesas, por favor."

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 21:32 (twenty years ago) link

Guang dong ren do she go. Viva Mandarin!

Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 21:52 (twenty years ago) link

Francais--pretty much fluently, but with a Quebecoise accent. Tabarnac 'ostie de chalice!

I speak some German and I took a year of Mandarin, but don't even ask me to remember any of it.

J'aime beaucoup parler francais--mais plusieurs fois je parle anglais et mes amis me reponds en francais. Ca marche!

cybele (cybele), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

Man, I just realized that if I spoke Vietnamese around here...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:56 (twenty years ago) link

cybel¡ such philthy language¡ i think most of us canuks know enough french (quebecois french) to pretend we know what we're doing.

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 31 July 2003 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

"Dos cervezas, por favor."

Mr Don and Mr George to thread. Huevos....

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 31 July 2003 00:36 (twenty years ago) link

le français devrait la lingua franca d'ILX, 'barnak

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 31 July 2003 00:37 (twenty years ago) link

haha devrait *être* la langua franca.
the scientific proof that I'm as bad a writer in french than I am in english.

Sébastien Chikara (Sébastien Chikara), Thursday, 31 July 2003 00:42 (twenty years ago) link

English & Amharic is it for me.

Spent my junior high and HS years taking Latin, so useful for reading French, Italian etc. but not much help in speaking. Keep meaning to sign up for lessons but beens aying that for years now with no movement.

H (Heruy), Thursday, 31 July 2003 08:59 (twenty years ago) link

French (duh - part II)
Survival Czech and German (but I just started taking German classes again so I may be on my way up to the 1st Division..)

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Thursday, 31 July 2003 09:01 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
I'm trying to learn Cantonese. It's difficult (especially hearing the differences in tones [THEY ALL SOUND THE SAME TO ME]), but it's nice to not have to worry about verb forms and gender.

Also, asking questions is fun.

Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Anch'io parlo italiano, come tanti di ILX.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

zhong wen. mandarin.

kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I was showing off my Mandarin skillz the other day in Chinatown. Not in front of any actual Chinese people, though, fortunately.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

john, not to um, disregard your skillz, but you only know a handful of words!

kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link

BURN!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I know, I was being facetious!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

wo xuexi putonghua. wo shuo de BU hao. pimsleur is the best! screw all that book-learning stuff. no, i took like four semesters but got really bogged down with all the characters. i'm convinced it's better to speak first, then read/write for chinese.

viborgu, Thursday, 22 September 2005 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

wo shuo de BU hao

"I am not good"?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 22 September 2005 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

German, portuguese, and enough french to get me through a "Corto Maltese" comic book (but not a Verlaine poetry anthology)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 22 September 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

learning to read and write at the same time is the best way to learn

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 22 September 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link

i'd recommend learning first how to write "one" in chinese

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 22 September 2005 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link

once you know the basics the whole written language is a breeze

ken c (ken c), Friday, 23 September 2005 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I can read Proust in the original but the only thing I'm able to say I really speak, apart from my native English, is gibberish. BTW, I write it too.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 23 September 2005 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I spoke hebrew fluently as a child. Now, not so much.

Sym Sym (sym), Friday, 23 September 2005 04:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I need help learning how to write -- the book/cd combo I have is NO help.

Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

close enough, john.

viborgu, i've been curious about pimsleur & often tempted to buy it. i studied in college for two years & studied abroad for 6 months. that was approx. 5-6 years ago. what level should i start with?!

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

SI YO SOY DANNY BONADUCE!

Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Where are all the gibberish speakers/writers?

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

HI DERE, ¿ DE QUE EST ESTO?

El (Ken L), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Χ ΔΕΡΕ! ΞΑΤ ΙΣ ΙΤ ΜΛΔΕ?

k/l (Ken L), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Faru ushku farmu mao
ee-i-ee-oh!

Thea (Thea), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i meant

ee-i-ee-i-oh, dammit

Thea (Thea), Friday, 23 September 2005 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I can read and write French, but I can't really converse in it. Books = easy. Talking to a person = I get way lost. I know a little bit of German- one of my coworkers from Munich was just here for a week, so I got a little bit of practice speaking it when our group went out drinking every night with him. Hmm, and I learned Latin in high school, but I'm sure that I've forgotten all of it.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2005/09/23/international/i171947D03.DTL

Half of Europe's Citizens Know 2 Languages
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Friday, September 23, 2005

(09-23) 17:19 PDT BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) --

Half of European citizens speak a second language, according to a European Union survey released Friday.

The poll, conducted in June across Europe, found that tiny Luxembourg had the highest percentage of bilingual citizens, with 99 percent of those questioned saying they could master a conversation in a second language.

Hungary had the lowest number with 29 percent of its citizens able to speak another language. Britain was second last with 30 percent.

The survey also found that almost eight out of 10 students — ages 15-24 — can have a normal conversation in at least one foreign language.

In the United States, by contrast, 9 percent of Americans speak both their native language and another language fluently, according to a U.S. Senate resolution designating 2005 the "Year of Foreign Language Study."

In the European survey, English was identified by 34 percent of respondents as their second language, followed by German which was a second language for 12 percent, then French which was spoken as a second language by 11 percent, according to the survey....

lyra (lyra), Saturday, 24 September 2005 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Mä puhun sujuvaa suomea ja englantia, hiukan huonompaa ruotsia (vaikka suoritinkin virkamiesruotsin kurssin yliopistolla viime vuonna), sekä jokseenkin huonoa saksaa ja espanjaa.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 24 September 2005 09:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Jullie kunnen allemaal mijn kloten kussen. Eigenlijk niet want ik ben een vrouw.

Apparently the myth that Belgians can speak a lot of languages is not true. Ah well.

nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Saturday, 24 September 2005 10:01 (eighteen years ago) link

That was interesting and led to this

Languages with a high grapheme-to-phoneme and phoneme-to-grapheme correspondence (excluding exceptions due to loan words and assimilation) include Maltese, Finnish, Albanian, Georgian, Turkish (apart from ğ and various palatal and vowel allophones), Serbo-Croatian (Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian), Bulgarian, Macedonian (if the apostrophe denoting schwa is counted, though slight inconsistencies may be found), Eastern Armenian (apart from o, v), Basque (apart from palatalized l, n), Haitian Creole, Castilian Spanish (apart from h, x, b/v, and sometimes k, c, g, j, z), Czech (apart from ě, ů, y, ý), Polish (apart from ó, h, rz), Romanian (apart from distinguishing semivowels from vowels), Ukrainian (mainly phonemic with some other historical/morphological rules, as well as palatalization), Belarusian (phonemic for vowels but morphophonemic for consonants except ў written phonetically), Swahili (missing aspirated consonants, which do not occur in all varieties and anyway are sparsely used), Mongolian (apart from letters representing multiple sounds depending on front or back vowels, the soft and hard sign, silent letters to indicate /ŋ/ from /n/ and voiced versus voiceless consonants) Azerbaijani (apart from k), and Kazakh (apart from и, у, х, щ, ю).

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 20 November 2017 10:31 (six years ago) link

"apart from"

mark s, Monday, 20 November 2017 10:35 (six years ago) link

(apart from h, x, b/v, and sometimes k, c, g, j, z)
- ah that old mnemonic!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 20 November 2017 10:48 (six years ago) link

not what you're looking for but making use of the fewest sounds is kind of efficient: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotokas_language

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Monday, 20 November 2017 10:58 (six years ago) link

Russian is pretty much pronounced as spelled - Polish probably as far in the other direction as any language I can think of.

I need create own polish alphabet, it will be gut pic.twitter.com/XYqcRZbtXZ

— ⭐Jag. Thornproof♠ (@SanJaguar) October 10, 2017

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 20 November 2017 11:22 (six years ago) link

presumably thanks to this?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reforms_of_Russian_orthography#The_post-revolution_reform

my dad's parents* were reds in the 30s: my dad told to me once that he could remember his mum teaching herself russian in the bath, adding that she was learning from a tsarist-era guidebook so it probably would have done more harm than good come the worldwide bolshevik revolution

*one of them ended up very reactionary, the other stayed secretly red till the end in her 90s, i don't really know how they negotiated this personally

mark s, Monday, 20 November 2017 11:40 (six years ago) link

adding: my dad was naturally good at languages, picking up the useable basics very quickly -- he taught himself serbo-croat in order to read an untranslated paper abt karst landscapes* and once (in lapland) held a halting conversation with the woman running a post office in esperanto lol

mark s, Monday, 20 November 2017 11:45 (six years ago) link

might learn Volapuk one day so I can curse the Esperanto-speaking masses

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Monday, 20 November 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

starting scottish gaelic classes on saturday, something I've been meaning to do for about a decade. procrastination is bad news.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link

Ashamed to say as a Scot that pretty much the only words I know in Gaelic are a song about porridge

carrotless, turnip-pocketed (fionnland), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:59 (six years ago) link

i know next to nothing apart from the words that are similar/the same to the bit of Irish I learned on Duolingo.

I don't think it's incumbent of Scots to know any gaelic - as long as they don't have that tiresome anti-gaelic road sign attitude - I just have always been interested in threatened languages in general and it seems like it makes sense to learn the one that's closest to your home. I was inspired by walking past a classroom at the university I work at here in Vancouver and hearing young indigenous people learning the Squamish (Sḵwx̱wú7mesh) language

khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

kinda neat

https://localingual.com/

F# A# (∞), Thursday, 31 May 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link


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