The Shining

the narrator's voice and the unnatural way he cut up his monologue sounds kinda creepy to me. he talks over certain scenes as they're progressing. i haven't seen the movie in a while, so mentally processing both the narrative and the creepy visuals is sorta double creepy bonus.

what, is it circulating around on alt.movies.kubrick?

Not that I've seen

Is this really the first yall have heard of the Kubrick Faked the Moon Landing theory?

In NYC we've seen these on the street for about 20 years:

http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/images/toynbee_tile_13thgrand_2003.jpg

Morbs, if you get a chance you should watch this - its on Netflix streaming if you have it. It's all about those tiles and who might have been behind them.

Is this really the first yall have heard of the Kubrick Faked the Moon Landing theory?

no of course not, but as Mordy et al mentioned upthread there's a lot of weird stuff that narrator points out that i've never noticed. even something as obvious as Danny's sweater (which IS weird!).

I agree with everyone who said the forwards/backwards segment was the best. Not sure i could watch the whole film that way mind

well you only have to watch half, after that it repeats

....but in reverse

"Danny is literally carrying a symbolic Apollo 13 on his body"

hm.

would quite like to see some 24 hr psycho style installation of the shining, only instead it would loop key two-to-ten second sections until they became interminable

i think maybe the shining is kubrick's best film. i didn't always feel this way, but submersing myself in this analysis is bringing me around to that opinion.

so far reconfirming my exactly opposite view....

can someone explain why a man in a bear suit is giving the caretaker a bj?

xpost Like you needed any external help.

when a man in a bear suit and a caretaker love each other very much . . . xp

"Kubrick's The Shining Analysis - What he wanted us to Know - The Fake Moon Landings."

this is possibly creepier than the actual movie. watching this alone at night. i'm like scared.

― billstevejim, Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:39 PM (Yesterday)

if i just watched Room 237 is it still worth watching this?

I don't believe the sex of the person in the bear suit is known

what's this bit about it running backwards and forwards? I've often thought that trick would yield something interesting with EWS as well--it's based on a "mirror" like structure just as much as FMJ seems to be.

check out the tumblr post I linked above, lots of screen shots.

the effect of seeing the overlapped shots it in motion though is tenfold

yeah that part was so super cool

probably could've watched a lot more of it in fact!

the shot where the typewriter is first introduced lining up with the shot where wendy sees what Jack's been typing is amazing:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk5rqsg7Fn1qi4nyc.jpg

is it though

guys i have this great thing to tell you about pink floyd

Eh "film director noted for almost monomaniacal control and detail makes movie with extremely mirrored structure" not quite as unlikely as "old movie synchronizes with completely unrelated album."

only time ive done the oz/dark side thing was xmas 1998 when wizard of oz was re-released in theaters-- a friend of my cousin's was a manager at a 2nd run theater and invited a few dozen people to come and watch oz/darkside on the big screen after the theater closed one nite

this is prob one of my five favorite movies ever and definitely my favorite kubrick and that it is the kind of movie that can envelop and excite people and trail paranoiac mythology behind it like this is only further eerie proof of its greatness and i don't want to be a killjoy but how high are you guys exactly

well

dlh you should really see Room237

oh i mean obviously i will

that tumblr post kinda pissed me off tho

the 217/237 change btw is because, and i only mention this cuz it has appreciably diminished my life, the timberline lodge (oregon represent!), which stands in for the overlook in the opening sequence, requested that kubrick change the room number cuz the timberline has a 217 and they didn't want people to be scared to stay in it, which is totally lame since 1) while many would no doubt be afraid to stay in it there would presumably be lots of people who would actively want to stay in it and 2) i would be one of them

they cover that in the film. It's not true

oh that's not true

this headache better go away before movie time

lol to dlh

I haven't seen it yet (can't wait), but they should have had Stephen King as one of the interviews in this movie.

yeah but Room237 isnt ~about~ the shining, it is about the shining's more unique/insightful/obsessive fans

stephen king's take on kubrick/the film is covered

the subliminal boner is probably the second best bit

yeah has king come around to kubrick's shining yet? i know he hated it originally in a standard author horrified by hollywood adaptation way and he went on at length about kubrick not getting horror in danse macabre, tipping his hand by casting nicholson (do think a deniro version would've been better) but it seems like i read king giving the film its due at some point in recent years. i'm not nearly as huge a fan of the shining as most ilxors but i really really want to see this, think at this point in my life i'm way more stoked for these kind of 'deep readings' than any kind of rifftrax type thing.

No. King's taste in movies has only gotten worse with age. He'll never come around on this one.

what's so interesting about Kubrick is that his movies are so densely symbolic but the "signified" part of that relationship always seems to lead you back into the movie itself, mobius strip like. beginning with 2001 and even more so in The Shining and EWS there's a palpable gnostic mysticism (ie, a "higher power" that is thoroughly malevolent) as if it's a negative theology of evil.

as much of a yr dad making smalltalk by asking 'so, whattya think of that new steve winwood?' feel it had and as bizarre as it was to see appearing regularly in a widely distributed magazine those stephen king talks about whatever crap he's been consuming columns were the last thing i can recall actually reading in an entertainment weekly (beyond captions for 'beloved cast reunion' photoshoots).

the forwards/backwards tumblr did remind me of how great it is when lloyd the bartender says "your money's no good here, mr. torrance. orders from the house." i mean i guess that is kind of cheesy. don't mind.

white man's burden, lloyd

"I'm the kind of man who likes to know who's buying his drinks"

I used to think he was saying "white man's bourbon."

what king (and kael iirc) say about nicholson is true, i guess; he's already half-jack at the beginning even if he only goes full-jack in the middle. but i dunno i wouldn't trade some of those line readings for anything.

a CONTRACT!