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i am not getting sw0le, but i am getting fat. maybe i can get fat and sw0le.

toto coolio (clouds), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:51 (seven years ago) link

Yes im always super deliberate on my lifts for fear of messing up my back xp

carne asada, Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:13 (seven years ago) link

I'm just lurking here bc I'm somewhat interested, though I can barely lift my groceries

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:16 (seven years ago) link

also bc cheering on harbl :)

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:16 (seven years ago) link

i knew i'd hit some kind of beginner threshold for sw0leness when i found myself enjoying mark rippetoe youtubes for an hour at a time

goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:25 (seven years ago) link

haha otm

caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:36 (seven years ago) link

I recently hired a personal trainer on a contract for a tremendous number of sessions to ensure my commitment to working out, and despite certain small wrenches in the works, it's starting off nicely and making me feel good about the mid-term future of my physical and mental health. Last time I had a trainer I was only half-assing it (drinking tons (not drinking at all now) skipping sessions, not really 100% in the game) but the cosmetic results still blew me away. That's not what I'm in it for, and body definition is gravy that will make the other benefits extra good.

(*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:56 (seven years ago) link

honestly part of the mental game with this for me was finally admitting to myself that yes, a strong minority motivation was 'cosmetic'

goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:01 (seven years ago) link

goole congrats on being sw0le :)

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:02 (seven years ago) link

oh man i'm nowhere near my sw0le g0ls

goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:04 (seven years ago) link

learning to do olympic/power lifts *correctly* (or so i hope) in the past year or so has been really mind-blowing. sort of a light turning on: "so THIS is what it's supposed to feel like." I actually enjoy squatting, dead-lifting, and all that now. and i pretty much gave up any exercise that doesn't work at least a few muscle groups at a time.

i go to the gym every 4th day (doing yoga on the 3 days in between) and try to pack in the protein and i've never felt better in my life.

ryan, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:04 (seven years ago) link

i think a big part of the mental game for me was that I realized for the longest time i'd actually do whatever I could to make things *easier* rather than build the foundations to really improve.

ryan, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:05 (seven years ago) link

honestly part of the mental game with this for me was finally admitting to myself that yes, a strong minority motivation was 'cosmetic'

― goole, Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:01 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:06 (seven years ago) link

people doing curls make me literally vomit

caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:06 (seven years ago) link

yeah. those kinds of things are such a total waste of time. you drop all that and all of a sudden your workout takes a 1/3 of the time and is 10x more effective.

ryan, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:10 (seven years ago) link

i've cut the weight in half or more on every major lift over the past year or two just to connect or reconnect with form / what i'm actually doing / why i'm doing it and it's made such a huge difference. also yoga 4 core 4 life.

xp i don't get curl hate. done right they're amazing. cable press-downs on the other hand....

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:12 (seven years ago) link

i am kind of doughy at the moment because my gym is 10 yards away from ground zero in this video and was shut for all of september http://vimeo.com/48399328. it's really nice at the moment because a lot of the guys seem to have quit or moved to another gym.

one thing i like about gyms in germany is the squat racks are always free because people are either doing curls (lol) or doing serious calisthenics (some of these dudes are amazing).

going in a couple of hours actually. iirc tonight i will squat 5x5 175lb (i.e. 1xBW), bench 5x5 100, row 5x5 100.

caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:14 (seven years ago) link

seriously, everyone on earth should squat. this is key to universal consciousness.

goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:19 (seven years ago) link

squat. eat broccoli, quinoa and sardines. live forever.

caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:20 (seven years ago) link

and if i see you using the foam pad on your barbell during the squat then i hope you poop accidentally during your first set.

caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:21 (seven years ago) link

I go 2 gym and do not squat, I have had back problems in my life and am worried about technique

iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:22 (seven years ago) link

start by doing 'air squats' ie no weight

when those get ok start with an empty bar. that's 45 lb, you could even start by holding up a couple of small dumbbells

goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:25 (seven years ago) link

i have bad knees (poss hereditary) and fear doing any leg-related lifts

toto coolio (clouds), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:25 (seven years ago) link

yeah I do air squats already

iatee, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:25 (seven years ago) link

when squatting to proper depth your knees are not being taxed so much xp

carne asada, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:26 (seven years ago) link

unless you have disk problems, i think squat is pretty a low risk exercise for your back. all the weight goes straight down your spine. there's not much torque. maybe give it a try with an unloaded bar to see how it feels.

saw a calisthenics guy do a one-handed chin-up last week btw. wanted to cry.

caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:27 (seven years ago) link

yeah make sure you don't stop your squat half-way, that is bad for your knees

caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:27 (seven years ago) link

i have 'bad knees' and they've never felt better after a year of this

goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:28 (seven years ago) link

i have turned around halfway when i've had to on a weight. it was agony. i have no idea what those guys who go to like 30 degrees above horizontal think they are doing.

xp otm. squats are good for strength but they are #1 for knees, groin and lower back stability

caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:29 (seven years ago) link

when i've had to bail on a weight, i mean.

caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:29 (seven years ago) link

lol i totally use the foam pad. i used to be so anti-foam pad but now i'm more anti-sores on my back.

xp goole caek carne asada otm, keep the weight off/low, keep tight form go low and back/knees should be ok.

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:31 (seven years ago) link

what were you lifting to get sores?

caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:33 (seven years ago) link

it's spine/neck contact, guess this means i should take off the pad and get the bar where it's supposed to be.

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:42 (seven years ago) link

low-bar position will fix that but it does take some getting used to

goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:43 (seven years ago) link

yeah i had the same issue until i figured out the right place to rest the bar

carne asada, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:44 (seven years ago) link

yeah i think part of the problem with the pad is it means the bar is less stable. it's kind of like people who wear gloves and running shoes. the barbell is the size it is for a reason, and unless your body is unusual proportioned, you're screwing that up.

caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:45 (seven years ago) link

i've had the benefit of some good coaching that has help me a bunch, otherwise i'd probably being doing a bunch of stuff wrong

carne asada, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:47 (seven years ago) link

if you've spent most of your life doing it wrong like me it really takes some time/dedication to turns things around. but eventually your body just starts to "set" better, even in daily life.

ryan, Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:52 (seven years ago) link

totally.

Neutral Coliseums (Matt P), Thursday, 25 October 2012 18:57 (seven years ago) link

goole i got semi-sw0le for like 9 months before i had a babby and got un-sw0le

but if you are looking for sw0le central in mpls, get a membership at Los Campeones gym on Franklin, dudes are serious! it's the best gym, super cheap, never crowded and all free weights and lots of space, barely any bullshit like eliptical trainers etc

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:00 (seven years ago) link

ha! i have been to that gym. i was staying round the corner and they sold me a week pass. it was 100x better than my gym here.

caek, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:02 (seven years ago) link

i was kinda intimidated at first because there were these crazy big dudes lifting for serious, but i ended up finding out that they were always really helpful and encouraging if you asked them to spot or for help

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:03 (seven years ago) link

though i did become pretty much certain that certain dudes there were heavily into r0ids

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:03 (seven years ago) link

huh wow that is a pretty good deal. but i kind of love my busted-ass Y, and it's right around the corner from me

goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:07 (seven years ago) link

yeah, i guess the most important thing is having a gym you'll actually go to, so around the corner probably trump whatever advantages los campeones has.

which Y do you go to? blaisdell?

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:11 (seven years ago) link

midway, dog! apart from people's kids i feel like i'm on the low end of the age curve there

goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:14 (seven years ago) link

haha what's the midway scene? drunks from the Trend Bar?

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:16 (seven years ago) link

ha maybe in a couple cases. it's kind of everybody except your uptown young single white people. kids playing ball, moms on treadmills, old dudes benching in the smith machine, guys who hang out and watch cable in the locker room for hours, etc

goole, Thursday, 25 October 2012 19:20 (seven years ago) link

i am working pretty hard on having a nice squat. i feel that barbell squat is currently pretty bad but improves every time. now my thing is i do goblet squats to get the heaviness in (i am up to 50 lbs for 5 reps!) and a number of low-bar back squats at a lighter weight to work on technique. at first i was so so bad at it and couldn't figure out where the bar went and my shoulders hurt. but i found the "shelf" on my back and moved my hands wider. front squats i need much more work on because my wrists hurt.
everyone should do this a million times before using the bar imo http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/goblet_squats_101
i can't believe i have turned into a person who reads articles on T NATION

Online Webinar Event for Dads (harbl), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:35 (seven years ago) link

i don't work hard enough on hamstring flexibility is part of the problem

Online Webinar Event for Dads (harbl), Thursday, 25 October 2012 22:36 (seven years ago) link

When I lift heavy I rest on non-lifting days. What seems to work best for me for balance and recovery is weights 3x a week and running once on the weekend. Have been meaning to etch out some kind of schedule where I do a high volume full body routine twice a week then run and do yoga as many of the others as possible without burning myself out.

beard papa, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 19:13 (three weeks ago) link

i should note i swim slowly and not for terribly long. more of a dynamic stretching than anything

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 19:20 (three weeks ago) link

weights 3x, 1hr of youtube yoga 4x or as toddler allows

adam, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 19:27 (three weeks ago) link

light stretching or even a walk is nice to alternate w heavy lifting imo swimming is amazing if u have access, swim a lil hanging in the sauna eat some food take a nap just be a body very nice

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 21:25 (three weeks ago) link

lol there's a dude with an alan thrall tshirt on at my y right now

goole, Thursday, 13 February 2020 01:06 (one week ago) link

hes training untamed i assume

lag∞n, Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:44 (one week ago) link

I like Alan Thrall but I feel like if I was wearing a tee of him or any "training" guy I would be giving off the pretense that I was "training" and not just casually lifting weights which is what I am more realistically doing.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:48 (one week ago) link

i hope you casually walked up to him and growled the catch phrase

forensic plumber (harbl), Thursday, 13 February 2020 23:30 (one week ago) link

"where's the beef"

Dan I., Friday, 14 February 2020 00:38 (one week ago) link

i hope you casually walked up to him and growled the catch phrase

― forensic plumber (harbl), Thursday, February 13, 2020 5:30 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

sorry to admit this didn't even occur to me! not to gymshame but was not particularly accomplished. his lifting partner was pretty yoked, i thought the whole thing was cute tbh

goole, Friday, 14 February 2020 19:29 (one week ago) link

Man, lifting as a 40-year-old busy professional dad feels like such a slow grind sometimes in terms of progress, especially since I probably don't sleep as much as I need to. I feel like I barely made progress over the last year, although lately I am starting to feel like I'm getting somewhere again. I was able to hit a set of 5 x 325 on my DL recently (with very long pauses between reps), my OHP is kind of stuck at 135-145 x 5 depending on the day, and my bench hasn't gone beyond 215 x 5 but it's come back there after dropping off for a little while. I'm now experimenting with more volume on everything but the DL so we'll see how that goes.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 19:33 (one week ago) link


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