The Shining

The solstice of 1977 has special alignment with the symbolic conflict of The Shining for in 1977, as the December days get shorter and shorter, the moon gets fuller and fuller, climaxing in a full moon on Christmas Day. In fact on the winter solstice of 1977, the sun and moon share the sky for two hours and fourteen minutes, the exact amount of time Wendy and Danny are in the narrative of The Shining. (They enter at four minutes in and exit at two hours, eighteen minutes — The longer US cut of course.) If we assume The Shining to take place in 1977, then Jack dies sometime before daylight on December 23rd, making that first Tuesday sequence occur on December 13th. So The Shining skillfully avoids all holidays again, missing both Christmas and Hannukah, which occurred December 5th-12th in 1977.

speaking srsly, whatever it really "means," the scene where danny stands up with the rocket on his sweater is really tremendous and the narrator is clearly a very clever reader + watcher of films (even if he also lol believes the moon landing was faked)

― Mordy, Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:44 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I feel kind of stupid for not picking up on all that America symbolism, which is so blatantly there even if it doesn't have much to do with a fake moon landing.

I also picked up on something else I've never picked up on before -- a possible echo/mirror of Dr. Zhivago (writer exiled to cavernous house in snowy winter) which I only thought of because he brought up the cold war and russia. But maybe it's a stretch.

What does user sexydancer think of this docu?

(Alternate question was user sexydancer involved with this docu?)

so many "docs" in this thread!

*farts*

Misha gif! I went to school with him.

(Alternate question was user sexydancer involved with this docu?)

I think so, yeah. Or at least posts about it on facebook a lot.

He put on The Shining Forwards and Backwards in Brooklyn: http://kdk12.tumblr.com/post/4879566957/the-shining-forwards-and-backwards

he 'pears innit

That's what I thought, yeah.

As for which doc will get critical attention at year-end -- Searching for Sugarman? Haven't seen but I want to. Got enough buzz that it got Rodriguez on Letterman at least.

the backwards/forwards segments in Room 237 were probably my favorites

I dunno what happened to your order, Iago, but I just got one for BAM.

really? something seemed funky about the pay process while it was happening...i'll try again. thanks for leting me know, morbius!

done! see you there, morbius! and thanks again

"Kubrick's The Shining Analysis - What he wanted us to Know - The Fake Moon Landings."

this is possibly creepier than the actual movie. watching this alone at night. i'm like scared.

that video is amazing because there's innumerable points where you're like "wait, what? how does that follow??" but then you just keep watching, fascinated.

the narrator's voice and the unnatural way he cut up his monologue sounds kinda creepy to me. he talks over certain scenes as they're progressing. i haven't seen the movie in a while, so mentally processing both the narrative and the creepy visuals is sorta double creepy bonus.

what, is it circulating around on alt.movies.kubrick?

Not that I've seen

Is this really the first yall have heard of the Kubrick Faked the Moon Landing theory?

In NYC we've seen these on the street for about 20 years:

http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/images/toynbee_tile_13thgrand_2003.jpg

Morbs, if you get a chance you should watch this - its on Netflix streaming if you have it. It's all about those tiles and who might have been behind them.

Is this really the first yall have heard of the Kubrick Faked the Moon Landing theory?

no of course not, but as Mordy et al mentioned upthread there's a lot of weird stuff that narrator points out that i've never noticed. even something as obvious as Danny's sweater (which IS weird!).

I agree with everyone who said the forwards/backwards segment was the best. Not sure i could watch the whole film that way mind

well you only have to watch half, after that it repeats

....but in reverse

"Danny is literally carrying a symbolic Apollo 13 on his body"

hm.

would quite like to see some 24 hr psycho style installation of the shining, only instead it would loop key two-to-ten second sections until they became interminable

i think maybe the shining is kubrick's best film. i didn't always feel this way, but submersing myself in this analysis is bringing me around to that opinion.

so far reconfirming my exactly opposite view....

can someone explain why a man in a bear suit is giving the caretaker a bj?

xpost Like you needed any external help.

when a man in a bear suit and a caretaker love each other very much . . . xp

"Kubrick's The Shining Analysis - What he wanted us to Know - The Fake Moon Landings."

this is possibly creepier than the actual movie. watching this alone at night. i'm like scared.

― billstevejim, Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:39 PM (Yesterday)

if i just watched Room 237 is it still worth watching this?

I don't believe the sex of the person in the bear suit is known

what's this bit about it running backwards and forwards? I've often thought that trick would yield something interesting with EWS as well--it's based on a "mirror" like structure just as much as FMJ seems to be.

check out the tumblr post I linked above, lots of screen shots.

the effect of seeing the overlapped shots it in motion though is tenfold

yeah that part was so super cool

probably could've watched a lot more of it in fact!

the shot where the typewriter is first introduced lining up with the shot where wendy sees what Jack's been typing is amazing:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk5rqsg7Fn1qi4nyc.jpg

is it though

guys i have this great thing to tell you about pink floyd

Eh "film director noted for almost monomaniacal control and detail makes movie with extremely mirrored structure" not quite as unlikely as "old movie synchronizes with completely unrelated album."

only time ive done the oz/dark side thing was xmas 1998 when wizard of oz was re-released in theaters-- a friend of my cousin's was a manager at a 2nd run theater and invited a few dozen people to come and watch oz/darkside on the big screen after the theater closed one nite

this is prob one of my five favorite movies ever and definitely my favorite kubrick and that it is the kind of movie that can envelop and excite people and trail paranoiac mythology behind it like this is only further eerie proof of its greatness and i don't want to be a killjoy but how high are you guys exactly

well

dlh you should really see Room237

oh i mean obviously i will

that tumblr post kinda pissed me off tho

the 217/237 change btw is because, and i only mention this cuz it has appreciably diminished my life, the timberline lodge (oregon represent!), which stands in for the overlook in the opening sequence, requested that kubrick change the room number cuz the timberline has a 217 and they didn't want people to be scared to stay in it, which is totally lame since 1) while many would no doubt be afraid to stay in it there would presumably be lots of people who would actively want to stay in it and 2) i would be one of them

they cover that in the film. It's not true