the totally insane true story behind the 1970s film and book Sybil

as my friend, who grew up in a pretty church-oriented family just said to me:
"times were simpler, we absolutely knew that the enemy was living among us
pretending to be god-fearing, church-going Christians, and killing babies under the full moon"

Teeth!

Thing is it's so much worse now, just without the nukes.

ugh, don't remind me

It really was terrifying. When Reagan was elected, I was 12 and I knew in my 12 yo bones that he was going to start a nuclear armageddon v the USSR. By the time I was old enough to realize why that prob wasn't gonna happen I was old enough to understand what he and his coven were up to in yes Central America and elsewhere

I was 9 when he was first elected but had out of control nuclear Armageddon phobia no thanks to this bozo. In 1984, my jagoff social studies teacher had a mock election and I was the only one to vote for Mondale. (The teach said we all voted like our parents were planning to and accused me of fibbing when I said my parents were staunch Reaganites. He also gave me more detentions than any other teacher ever.)

Also holy shit your user name.

Yeah I was in St Paul MN where it was possible for a high school freshman to think Mondale might win, lol. Was crushed by the results.

lol thx xp

My paranoid kids' group failed to attract membership in NEOH, but I bet if you guys had been nearby and had seen my flyers for the Children's Coalition for Nuclear Disarmament, you would have considered attending my meetings. There were only three before my two friends gave up. (We also took a bus to DC and camped out in the mall for the homeless. On that bus ride I learned about The Cure!)

Girl you know I would have been at your meeting.

I was 9 when he was first elected but had out of control nuclear Armageddon phobia no thanks to this bozo

I was 15, but was already well down this path of fear. I remember just fuming at everything when news leaked out that Nancy Reagan had a personal astrologer visit her in the White House.

Girl you know I would have been at your meeting.

― carl agatha, Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:01 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:D

finally, our membership flourishes! 25 years later better than not at all.

NOW WE MARCH

This time I won't have to bring a separate piece of luggage for cassettes. That's a bonus. Oh, the 80s.

My Kindle highlights finally synched up with my account, so now I have all of the best parts of Satan's Silence at my fingertips.

For the record, here's "naugus hole" in context:

Tanya then identified the dolls’ “wee-wees,” “chee-ehees” (breasts), “butts,” “wienie,” and the “naugus hole,” or vagina

This is some of Judy Johnson's word salad

Matthew feels that he left L.A. International in an airplane and flew to Palm Springs… Matthew went to the armory…. The goatman was there … it was a ritual type atmosphere…. At the church, Peggy drilled a child under the arms, armpits. Atmosphere was that of magic arts. Ray flew in the air…. Peggy, Babs and Betty were all dressed up as witches. The person who buried Matthew is Miss Betty. There were no holes in the coffin. Babs went with him on a train with an older girl where he was hurt by men in suits. Ray waved goodbye … Peggy gave Matthew an enema…. Staples were put in Matthew’s ears, his nipples and his tongue. Babs put scissors,in his eyes …. She chopped up animals … Matthew was hurt by a lion. An elephant played … a goat climbed up higher and higher and higher, then a bad man threw it down the stairs…. Lots of candles were there, they were all black…. Ray pricked his right pointer finger… put it in the goat’s anus…. Old grandma played the piano … [a baby’s] head was chopped off and the brains were burned…. Peggy had a scissors in the church and she cut Matthew’s hair. Matthew had to drink the baby’s blood. Ray wanted Matthew’s spit.

Clearly I am going through post-Halloween gore withdrawal.

wat

Judy Johnson was one of the original accusers in the first wave of SRA cases -- she was visibly disturbed, but the prosecution (who joked about her behind closed doors) moved forward with the accusations anyway. She died at home in a pool of alcohol-related vomit iirc.

Attempting to find the killers, police asked local residents to notify them about men whose behavior might suggest them as the culprit. Thousands of reports flooded in, mainly from women. Though most were dead ends, they constituted a fascinating informal survey of the local male population’s sadistic proclivities.

that is sad, but at the same time, who is ratting me out?

*raises hand*

Here's an example of one of the victim interviews from the McMartin case, which was really early in the SRA hysteria/mass contagion/witch hunt/whatever you wanna call it. Over time, the interviewing techniques were under scrutiny and eventually debunked) in spite of a rather robust attempt on the part of a large cadre of child psychology professionals to legitimize them. There were government-funded SRA conferences and everything.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mcmartin/victiminterviews.html

Can you imagine what other dirt is in that file? Yikes.

ohhhh fuck @ those interviews ;_;

god

I really need to read this book

It's really good. Now that I've read two of her books, I can say that Debbie Nathan has expert organizational skills. She knows just how much background info to balance with narrative and historical context. I might read her book about pornography next.

The only complaint I have about SS is that it was written in 1994, so there are some questionable opinions about PTSD in there, and feminism, but she usually contextualizes those pretty well.

Has anyone dug through the 1986 Meese Report?

omg INDICTMENT is on netflix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B6dbLT0ZKQ

that clip is only 16 sec btw

(that's Scorsese's McMartin case courtroom drama starring Henry Thomas, James Woods, and Mercedes Ruhl)

Sorry! It was produced by Oliver Stone. Who doesn't get those two confused amirite?!

― these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, November 2, 2012 1:19 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark

Best part was how I posted this to a thread polling a poll and it was an error and omg this is what happens to my brain when I get so bored that I resort to book reporting.

One more thing and then I'll shut up

Ray Buckey (played by Henry Thomas in this movie) was the one who received the majority of the abuse accusations; a significant part of the prosecution's argument (and questioning) relied on a single detail about Ray, which was that he rarely wore underwear and that sometimes kids could see his dong through and under his shorts.

(I love this thread. Here goes my entire afternoon.)

satanic commando

Ok one more thing

This is a 2005 apology from one of the McMartin accusers, who is now a grown up normal person who claims he has nothing but positive feelings about his preschool

The first time I went to CII [Children's Institute International, now known as Children's Institute, Inc., a respected century-old L.A. County child welfare organization where approximately 400 former McMartin children were interviewed and given genital exams, and where many were diagnosed as abuse victims], we drove there, our whole family. I remember waiting ... for hours while my brothers and sisters were being interviewed. I don't remember how many days or if it was just one day, but my memory tells me it was weeks, it seemed so long. It was an ordeal. I remember thinking to myself, "I'm not going to get out of here unless I tell them what they want to hear."

We were examined by a doctor. I took my clothes off and lay down on the table. They checked my butt, my penis. There was a room with a lot of toys and stuffed animals and dolls. The dolls were pasty white and had hair where the private parts were. They wanted us to take off their clothes. It was just really weird.

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/oct/30/magazine/tm-mcmartin44

The irony that these kids, who had a completely normal childhood experience until then, were taken to a room where someone looked at their butts and genitals as they were surrounded by weird dolls with hairy privates and told to take off their clothes

Just for posterity's sake, this is from that video of the woman with the haunted toaster

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mddx6uMZO41rtmp17o1_500.jpg

Her toaster isn't possessed. She just has the toasting level up too high.

her bread has a serious weevil problem

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vpuJOIF7G8g/SzvtxEnFICI/AAAAAAAAAqg/Ckk4ilBbfFM/s400/Screen+shot+2009-12-30+at+8.22.03+AM.png

Bo Weevil Bo Weevil
I hope ya boyn in hell

I'm watching Indictment right now! It's ridiculous.

It's pretty good! Would recommend.

Just figured I should update --I finished Debbie Nathan's porn book. It was very informative and educational in tone. I learned some things even though it definitely seems to be intended for youth educational purposes.

She provides a balanced look at the industry from historical, economical, philosophical, and various other perspectives. Por ejemplo

Furthermore, feminist scholar Lisa Duggan notes that porn degrades women no worse than do “non-sexual images of gross violence,” or “advertising images of housewives as dingbats obsessed with getting men’s shirt collars clean.” The real problem isn’t porn, anti-censorship feminists argue — or even fashion and laundry soap ads. Instead, it’s the economic and cultural institutions that keep women as second-class citizens and lead to those insulting images.

I blame the patriarchy.

speaking of witch hunts, here is a disgusting new development

this poor man

The harassment has turned Rosen’s life upside down, and made him feel things once foreign to him, like searing rage. “I was sitting in a restaurant the other night and these guys who were part of a car club came up to me and shook my hand and said, ‘you know, you’re a hero to me.’ He had seen me on TV. So I said thank you. Then I’m sitting there I hear this other guy, ‘oh yeah, it was a conspiracy.’ He was a big guy,” he said.

“I tell you what, I had evil thoughts. I wanted to go over the first guy, and he had about 15 big guys with him, and say, ‘I’m going to go talk to this other guy — just watch my back.’ And then I wanted to go over to other guy and get up in his face and say, ‘see those guys over there, just know they’re keeping an eye out for me.’ And they I wanted to say, ‘I want to see what you look like. I want to see what a person who generates this kind of evil shits looks like. I want to look at your face and tell you you’re an asshole,’” he said.

He didn’t do it, of course. “But it tells me how rageful I am. And I am rageful about it, both for the children and for the mother of the child who came to my house looking for her son and I wanted to look at this guy and I wanted to just fucking decimate him. That’s my rage.”

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/15/this_man_helped_save_six_children_is_now_getting_harassed_for_it/

"the burgeoning Sandy Hook Truther movement"

You've got to be fucking kidding me.

They were at it within a day of the shooting, the hashtag 'False Flag' was v requently used. It's so sad to me the way there's this entire shell Web that preys on the mentally ill, proposing all these ideations and reinforcing, reinforcing, reinforcing them. I can't take it sometimes.