edward gibbon's "the decline & fall of the roman empire": C/D?

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(also i don't mean to be snotty about the kindle editions, being able to pull any version of gibbon out of the fucking AIR for NOTHING is literally the main thing our civilization has going for it)

difficult listening hour, Friday, 19 October 2012 18:49 (eight years ago) link

Iirc, I petered out in Byzantium around 900 or 1000 AD.

โ€• Aimless, Friday, October 19, 2012 1:46 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so did byzantium iirc

goole, Friday, 19 October 2012 18:59 (eight years ago) link

four years pass...

I've Storified my (plentiful) tweets on what I found noteworthy in Gibbon: wisdom, humour, elegance, prejudice https://t.co/SODaFPUfZ1

— Josh Spero (@joshspero) April 27, 2017

๐” ๐”ž๐”ข๐”จ (caek), Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:33 (three years ago) link

this is the way gibbons intended it to be read

flopson, Saturday, 20 May 2017 18:52 (three years ago) link

this is probably the best book ever

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 May 2017 19:17 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Yearly reminder to read Gibbon

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 September 2017 20:52 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

it's actually not that great as an intro to Roman history - it starts after all the famous imperial stuff (Caesar Augustus, Claudius, Nero) is over (and assumes its audience knows its way around that iirc); but the title hides the fact that you do get Attila, Genghis Khan, Charlemagne, rise of Islam, Crusades etc etc.

โ€• you don't exist in the database (woof), Monday, 5 September 2011 bookmarkflaglink

Is it worth reading Suetonius before starting on this btw?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 May 2020 13:56 (eleven months ago) link

neither of them are the most accurate things to read as history in 2020, both of them are the best things to read as entertainment, you certainly *could* read Suetonius first but then there's 600-odd years of Roman history before the Caesars so it's still not the whole empire. i think the Decline makes sense on its own, Gibbon sets out his terms at the beginning and in the title.

Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 May 2020 14:02 (eleven months ago) link

Got it, Ty.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 May 2020 14:03 (eleven months ago) link

seven months pass...

Iggy Pop on Gibbonโ€™s Decline and Fall is the most poignant thing Iโ€™ve read all week. https://t.co/jksAqwnpAQ pic.twitter.com/sG5aW5gN9h

— Mary Harrington (@moveincircles) January 3, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 January 2021 11:28 (four months ago) link

I've seen that before but it is great

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 January 2021 13:18 (four months ago) link

"I feel less tyrannized by the present day"

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 January 2021 17:43 (four months ago) link

Iggy's frequenting the bookstore at which I worked in the early '90s was a delight.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 January 2021 17:45 (four months ago) link

Ha, was wondering when that was going to get mentioned.

Dog Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 January 2021 17:47 (four months ago) link

did he ever come into the bookstore shirtless?

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 4 January 2021 21:20 (four months ago) link

Barefoot.


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