Luna

I'm notably bitter on the "stop talking about how you're going to do it" point, but that's mostly because:
a. we're not professionals
b. I was repeatedly assured that drunken "oh, I'm going to kill myself" threats were just dumb threats until I walked into my living room to see someone downing a bottle of pills years ago

idk, life

xp Maybe read through that sentence again, and see if a word jumps out at you as unhelpful?

Nope, J, it is a not roundabout way of criticizing your (plural, but please do include yourself, J) moderation policies, which are ad hoc, emotion-laden, and pretty useless in a real crisis. Shaming is lame; I criticize in the naive hopes that y'all will get it one day.

emil.y: I hear you, but that "and" is not an "or", and I stand by it.

flamboyant: Kinda have nothing to say to that, as I am not sure it has any content -- but I don't see "crazy" and "destructive" as describing the same sets of human beings, and kinda resent any implication that I do.

lag -- good question! Dunno the answer.

x-post - maybe fuck off

I don't know who you are but you've sort of been a giant asshole this whole week.

but yes if I were to right it again I'd have used "which has been ignored" rather than "unpunished".

ugh, write not right obv

I know mods dont want the edit brought up but luna is evil and i hope she rots in hell for what she did.

"the modding is shit" is more lame than constructive criticism not couched in spite, imo

I am not going to make the call that anyone talking about suicide is being manipulative and needs to be "punished" unless I can physically see them sitting at their keyboard and while smiling and laughing.

Nope, J, it is a not roundabout way of criticizing your (plural, but please do include yourself, J) moderation policies, which are ad hoc, emotion-laden, and pretty useless in a real crisis. Shaming is lame; I criticize in the naive hopes that y'all will get it one day.

nice reading comprehension you dolt

I am quite certain that I am now going to be called "crazy" and have all kinds of aspersions cast on my mental health for asking what should just be common consideration, but:

I find these kinds of clusterfucks and personal pile-ons incredibly triggering (of anxiety, of depression, of paranoia) and really rather damaging. It's odd to me, that people complain about my "crazyness" and then dive straight into exactly the behaviour I have asked them not to do, because it makes things worse, not better.

I am asking, as nicely as I can: can we please, for once, just not do this.

If you don't like me, can you please just leave me alone. These days, when I don't like someone, I try to avoid them. I certainly don't go following their twitter and looking through it, searching for things to ~get offended at~ and drag back to ILX in order to trigger another clusterfuck of pearl-clutching outrage.

Haven't you had enough? Aren't you bored of this yet? Because I really am. Enough is enough. ENBB, I'm especially sick of your concern trolling. I get it. I don't like you, you don't like me. But you can seemingly never resist the chance to put your oar in when I get mentioned, and turn it into the biggest clusterfuck you can, all the while, wearing this "no, really, I'm not trying to clusterfuck her, I just can't seem to resist talking about her, talking shit about her, at length, at every opportunity I get." While calling for me to be "punished" for the clusterfucks you are busy rousing up.

i also just typed out pretty much a word for word version of what matt just said xpost

just sayin

^^^^sweet solo

"But you can seemingly never resist the chance to put your oar in when I get mentioned, and turn it into the biggest clusterfuck you can, all the while, wearing this "no, really, I'm not trying to clusterfuck her, I just can't seem to resist talking about her, talking shit about her, at length, at every opportunity I get." While calling for me to be "punished" for the clusterfucks you are busy rousing up."

This is complete and total bullshit and exactly the type of behavior you pull time and time again. I have talked about you on board exactly one other time. Mostly I just ignore you.

wcc i dunno if you know what some of us just found out about luna but i promise you, you would be appalled and sickened. You know me well enough that i am not a reactionary, but im truly sickened and angry.

I'm still not sure what I found out about Luna.

but yes if I were to write it again I'd have used "which has been ignored" rather than "unpunished".

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:33 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Which is a big alteration, so calm down yeah?

I, er, don't think WCC's talking about Luna at all, unless I missed something? I mean, the thread's pretty much moved on.

Yeah AG, she's not.

I'm calm! AF has just been really antagonistic and unpleasant all week but he was right and I didn't mean what that word connotes.

Sorry to be so oblique, but srsly, given the circumstances that spawned this thread revive, can i please appeal to a general sense of decency and ask people to not derail this into another bout of ilx infighting, myself included.

It's not been "ignored." It gets brought up by ENBB on every thread. Use your ctrl-f on the past 3 or 4 clusterfucks of this week. Search for my username, search for ENBB's. You tell me who's been ignoring this.

ok andrew/enbb fair enough

then dive straight into exactly the behaviour I have asked them not to do, because it makes things worse, not better.

WCC, you ask people to not engage in certain types of behaviour around ILX, but people also ask you not to engage in certain types of behaviour around ILX -- on both ends it seems to have similar results?


(down to: lots and lots of people will actually stop what you ask, some won't, and most will have no idea you've ever asked / sometimes you might go "oh yeah" to someone, sometimes you might go "fuck off" to someone else, [and presumably] often you'll never see a thread to notice someone asked.)

Granny D, are they really living where she claimed they were?

just a lil bit of sociopathy, let's be cool

TWU, there are two kind of 'and' uses that are possible here. One is the conjunction within the sentence of two separate things, so 'the insane' and 'the truly damaging' are discrete (though possibly overlapping) entities. In this case you are pulling those of us with mental problems into the argument and saying we should be punished (or at least, not 'protected'). The other use is the one you are claiming now, which is 'the insane and the truly damaging' as one descriptive phrase. In that case, you are either pulling in mental problems as an intensifier, which is STILL REALLY INSULTING, or it is pointless to bring it up at all and your writing is redundant.

Yes, far as I know, M. She actually gave me her home address so I could mail her xmas cookies.

why is it all beef on ilx this week has been so humourless if it's not going to end in the foreseeable future can some funny posters get involved in here at least

I find these kinds of clusterfucks and personal pile-ons incredibly triggering (of anxiety, of depression, of paranoia) and really rather damaging. It's odd to me, that people complain about my "crazyness" and then dive straight into exactly the behaviour I have asked them not to do, because it makes things worse, not better.

― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:36 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i say this totally w/o malice spite or w/e coming from a place of concern and as a question not a suggestion, and obvs it could be asked of a great many posters, but have you considered just not reading ilx

e: There are more possibilities than that, including the one I intended, but I don't want to explain myself to somebody hunting for gotchas.

I think TWU is (to be generous) using #3 from my list, but yeah, actually referencing mental health is kind of a bad look

xpost sorry jjj; aiming to be constructive, not feed metafighting, maybe thread's ready for a WmC-brand time-out

I wonder if jaycee d. is still lurking, might have some good input

She actually gave me her home address so I could mail her xmas cookies.

I haven't really chatted w/her in about a year, apart from a few desultory texts or e-mails but she indicated a couple months ago that she had moved 'cause she couldn't afford her place and indicated that she was moving in w/friends or something.

e: There are more possibilities than that, including the one I intended, but I don't want to explain myself to somebody hunting for gotchas.

― Three Word Username, Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:49 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm not hunting for gotchas, I'm hunting for you to either explain yourself properly or apologise for being an offensive cunt. Pedant I may be, but I'm not trying to catch you out.

Calling bullshit, emil.y, and not playing along. Sorry.

Okay, so you're an unrepentant offensive cunt. Cheers.

'oh why oh why won't people leave me alone to post their ilx usernames to a public forum and talk shit about them?'

i figure we should keep this topic on the creep who was a true emotional and financial con artist.

i didn't get the email granny, i'll get back at you.

xp Not a bad question!

e: "You're an offensive cunt" is a phrase of great oxymoronic meaningless beauty, and I shall feel free to ignore you and your concerns forever.

I have to wonder whether Luna would be gratified or mortified to find that this thread so quickly became all beef yet not about her.

e: "You're an offensive cunt" is a phrase of great oxymoronic meaningless beauty, and I shall feel free to ignore you and your concerns forever.

You don't know what an oxymoron is.

And you do not know much beyond the contents of your own relatively empty head, and I pity you for it.

$75k AND christmas cookies? that's a tight grift

sorry, trying to lighten the tone a little...

lotta huge oxymorons on ilx amirite

$75k worth of christmas cookies