bjork vs radiohead

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I don't even dislike Amnesiac; it's just there are four other Radiohead albums alone I like more (HTTT, Kid A, OK Computer, The Bends)

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

I've been listening to those live Bjork discs she used to release on One Little Indian after each tour. Specifically the Homogenic and Vespertine ones. I kind of like them better than the studio versions? There's something very tingling about hearing those crazy studio fantasia arrangements being executed onstage that really sells them for me. On the albums they never quite move me.

you can kill things and still like them, i don't know (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

I've been avoiding this thread but

tbf Hunting Bears is kind of a random intro for Like Spinning Plates in album order

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:52 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also speaks to the understated sexual preferences of unknown band member

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:52 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Made me actually spit tea on my monitor with laughter.

Hunting bears was written by Ed. I never considered that interpretation before, but now I shall. At great length.

(I voted Bjork but I don't think that surprises anyone.)

((I also far prefer Amnesiac to Kid A but it's a personal preference for B-sides when it comes to Rh))

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

I need to revisit Vespertine; I played the hell out of it for a year and then never listened to it again

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

Bjork one of those classic 'off the bus' artists.

I did get that nice 'family tree' box, but hey I like 3" CD collections with a 5" CD also, and seeing as that's the only one...

Mark G, Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

I think Vespertine and (maybe?) Kid A were the two albums I first listened to pre-release due to lol internet

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

I've had times in my life where I've loved both these but now I feel like I really never need to hear any of their albums again. With OK Computer, I think the above quote "a better U2" is spot on. But I don't really like regular U2. So it's just, "yeah it's good, but not really my alley". I like Kid A quite a bit but I'm never in the mood to listen to it; the mood they go for is done so much better on other (older) albums. I thought Hail was pretty good and maybe my go-to when I just wanna hear some Radiohead (never happens). Bjork is one where I really like the anthemic stuff she does like "Big Time Sensuality" and "Isobel" and "Alarm Call" but am kind of left cold when she does like serious mood music where you can tell she worked overtime perfecting every last note, I dunno it just sounds overworked to me. Plus I don't really like the "stick the mic down your throat" technique either. Like recently I've gotten into Jun Togawa, she's really everything I hoped Bjork would be; equally eccentric, but she plays into her own silliness a bit. Her lyrics are all in Japanese which means I only understand them slightly less than Bjork's.

frogbs, Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

Just dug Vespertine out for the first time in ages (thanks, thread) and it's even more awesome than I remember it.

I had never actually listened to Medulla all the way through before, and it's as strange and weird and awesome as everyone says it was.

So although I was feeling all eyerolly and "this is just the poor man's Aphex Twin vs Madonna thread" it's been good for me.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

I saw Kid A in my coll the other say, went "aww" but didn't dig it out. Guess I'd still ove it.

I saw "OK Comp" for £2 in Morrissons, went "oh" but continued not to own it.

Which is odd, as I bought a "OK Comp tribute" CD recently, still haven't actually played it...

Mark G, Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

xpost well, the two albums chosen have been good ones to pair, I guess.

Mark G, Thursday, 18 October 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

Vespertine was where I got off the Björk train. I listen to it once a year to remind myself that I still hate it.

Melissa W, Thursday, 18 October 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

:(

it took a while to grow on me, and song-wise I think my favorites are on the 90s albums

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

I listened to Kid A for the first time last year. I don't know what made it any better than say, Dave Matthews Band or something

pretty otm, radiohead-worship is so baffling to me.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

I made a remark about it at the time, but I can't find it in search, so my exact impressions are lost to me.

I remembered this now! My remark was that absolutely nothing stood out for me except that part of one of the songs reminded me of part of "Eternal Flame" by the Bangles.

sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Which I preferred.

sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

Listening, I remember that Vespertine is probably the least-abstract Bjork album. Not as bombastic as the louder moments of any prior album, and not quite as experimental with song structure as later albums, definitely a less-varied sonic palette.

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 18 October 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 19 October 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

ten years pass...

I'm finally getting into Radiohead. Yet another sign that I've gone old and soft.

peace, man, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 11:53 (one year ago) link

Wow, that's a very surprising result. I mean, the vote could have gone either way, but I wouldn't expect Bjork to win by such a large margin.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 19:17 (one year ago) link

I don't think this vote would go this way today, fwiw

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I was thinking that, with the output of each since the original poll.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link

I mean, Vulnicura alone is a major achievement post-2012; I just think ILM has become an even more insanely slavish hub for Radiohead fandom

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link

Idk, I think the popular narrative is that Bjork's albums have become increasingly hermetic and hookless after the '10s, while the last Radiohead is widely acclaimed well beyond ILM? It would be a pretty different story without A Moon Shaped Pool, since King of Limbs is their only other album in the same era and is probably their worst.

Still, they've remained very high profile with the side projects and soundtracks, and I don't know anyone irl who has kept up with Bjork.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link

I love the TKOL sessions :( if Supercollider and Staircase were on TKOL it’d be less maligned. It might be the third or fourth RH album I come back to the most.

Also it can’t be their worst when Pablo Honey and HTTT exists.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

Wait, HTTT is now disfavored?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link

I've seen it get hate for being overstuffed but I love HttT

(I don't think I've ever listened to Pablo Honey all the way through tbh)

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link

HTTT is generally ranked at the bottom with Pablo Honey and TKOL.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link

Also Amnesiac which is sort of a polarizing album.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link

I put it above Amnesiac.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 20:33 (one year ago) link

HttT is awesome. Probably the worst production/mastering of their post Bends catalog though. I also like it more than Amnesiac.

octobeard, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link

Have we done a Radiohead poll?

octobeard, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link

I love Amnesiac and the beefy production/mastering on HttT :)

Time for a redo: The Radiohead Albums Poll

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link

Amnesiac is my favorite Radiohead album that I never want to listen to

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link

I know ranking Radiohead albums is the most basic and boring dude topic imaginable, and yet:

A Moon Shaped Pool
Amnesiac
Hail to the Thief
In Rainbows
Kid A
OK Computer
King of Limbs
The Bends
Pablo Honey

(I never want to listen to Kid A, and can't even really hear OK Computer anymore)

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:25 (one year ago) link

Seeing the Kid A/Amnesiac material performed live in 2001 was revelatory, I always hear those albums from the perspective of seeing them live at a time the band was peaking.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link

The album I listen to the most lately is The Bends. But many of the songs on Kid A feel like their pinnacle. Definitely amused at how many times an album poll has been conducted, but I'd be more interested in a songs ballot poll at this point.

I enjoyed participating in the Bjork ballot poll!

octobeard, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link

would rank the albums something like this

vespertine
kid a
in rainbows
ok computer
homogenic

post
debut
the bends

vulnicura
amnesiac
a moon shaped pool
fossora
biophilia

hail to the thief
the king of limbs
medulla
volta

pablo honey
utopia

ufo, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link

That's a very respectable sorting.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 22:06 (one year ago) link

Yeah Vespertine and Kid A at the top is very agreeable.

I’d place Medulla and TKOL higher though

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 14 March 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link

HTTT = Post
the rest in some sort of order
In fuckin Rainbows

imago, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 23:08 (one year ago) link

post has some of her best tracks, but it would only just about scrape into my top 5 Bjork LPs. even with better sequencing I'm not convinced those songs go together.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 23:15 (one year ago) link

HTTT is good, yes, and doesn't get enough love.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 23:16 (one year ago) link

you can lose a whole bunch of tracks from the first half of Post without much problem, the rest bangs unbelievably hard though

imago, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 23:17 (one year ago) link

skip from Hyperballad to Isobel to unlock maximum 'greatest mini-album that never was' power

imago, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 23:22 (one year ago) link

I Go Humble is on the Japanese version and could make it gel better. What to do with Army Of Me and It's Oh So Quiet is more of a problem though. Maybe they should just have been standalone singles. Maybe starting at Hyperballad could work? Anyway, I can not just put this CD on and listen to it.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 23:23 (one year ago) link

Man you guys really love In Rainbows a lot... am I missing something with that one?

octobeard, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 23:34 (one year ago) link

I have never heard In Rainbows

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link

I did this poll a few years back, before A Moon Shaped Pool, would be fun and interesting to do it again:

A POLL IN A CAGE ON ANTIBIOTICS - ILM Artist Poll #56 - RADIOHEAD - RESULTS THREAD"> A POLL IN A CAGE ON ANTIBIOTICS - ILM Artist Poll #56 - RADIOHEAD - RESULTS THREAD

nate woolls, Tuesday, 14 March 2023 23:48 (one year ago) link

Damn thanks for sharing that thread - really surprised at There There making #1 over Paranoid Android and EIIRP, but totally worthy, honestly. HttT really does slay, and to me it's the last "Essential" album they dropped. Everything after begins to have that musky "old band" smell.

octobeard, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 03:03 (one year ago) link

Absolutely. IR was dead bottom of my joint ranking. I have no idea why it has the cachet it does

imago, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 07:29 (one year ago) link


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