Luna

Anyways, I would say about L, she seems to have a 1st class degree in plausibility.

xxxp: yeah that would be a total rabbit hole for me; I'd be wondering if it was really her husband or if she was trying to terminate contact for whatever reason by inventing a character to nuke the relationship, opening up with more true, verifiable details to scare you off

I mean, if the husband knows what she does to people online, why is he still around? (I guess the answer might be "for the occasional $50-$75K windfall")

I don't know if there's much that can be done about it though. Pointing it out just leads to getting demonized the way chaki did when he called luna out. xxp

He was certainly an authority on fictitious hot girls, I'll grant you that, but that's not really why he was demonised or thrown out.

Thrown out? I thought he boldly abandoned ILX! I believe a bed was involved...

Liars still have a consistency in tone, style, y'know? How quickly he was responding, his emotions and background details...it convinced me. I realize you may think I'm unreliable detective here, so without being able to show you all of the back n forth between us, don't know how to convince anyone here it really wasn't her. It was enough to convince me and I have plenty of reason to be skeptical.
Anyway, husband says he's now done with her, chats between me and her were proof she had been cheating on him with her HS boyfriend. (and I confirmed she'd also been at least fucking another member in said bf's shitty bar band). Yeah I think he was benefitting from the $$ too, and was in denial of the full scope of what she was doing (re: the swindling: "he needed someone to talk to, and she needed $, so they both got something out of it")

I think I can guess from the conversation since what the edit was, and am glad it's not there any more. I can think of one obvious name who hasn't come up (but maybe some of you were thinking of) that would have a real story to tell, but he hasn't posted here years.

And no, I would have thought spamming all the boards with personal insults about a Mod might have been the reason for Chaki's ban.

mods otm here. Not sure what other case of recent times TWU is referring to, and i read my IMP and MRQ before breakfast

Ditto, I have no idea what the current thing is.

I'm more talking through my own distrust/paranoia than trying to discredit your appraisal of the situation, GD.

I had been under the impression that Luna was Chaki.

I would have thought spamming all the boards with personal insults about a Mod might have been the reason for Chaki's ban.

I wasn't talking about Chaki's ban, I was referring to when he first made his allegations against Luna and people were calling him a liar and an asshole.

I'd be wondering if it was really her husband or if she was trying to terminate contact for whatever reason by inventing a character to nuke the relationship, opening up with more true, verifiable details to scare you off

It was out of the blue. We don't have much of a relationship other than online phone games and the occasional text, so all she'd need to do to terminate contact is like not contact me. I mean I was already scared off all those years back from any deeper relationship than what I just described.

chaki was an asshole and was very...obtuse when posting, so it was difficult to take anything he said seriously

Oddly enough, I run into Chaki all the time irl.

He also had a track record of being abusive and rude to female posters and did so a couple of times on that thread. So it's hardly surprising that some people didn't immediately believe him, especially if they hadn't been following the situation closely, and given that L was a very good liar.

Fair enough, but I think sometimes being nice/not causing drama gets valued over protecting scammers or other shady people.

You can do both, and you're more effective at the latter if you've done the former

Thing is I don't remember this really being brought to the mods attention in any direct way until it suddenly blew up, and then it became a non-issue because she disappeared from the board.

"ILX Haven"

Fair enough, but I think sometimes being nice/not causing drama gets valued over protecting scammers or other shady people.

If Chaki had laid out the facts of the case immediately, maybe people would've treated him differently, but IIRC he was calling Luna "fake" for several days before he actually bothered to explain what he meant by that. There were many of us who had no idea what this "fake" business was all about (at first I though he meant Luna had fake boobs), because it had never been discussed openly on ILX until after Chaki's messages. So to us, at first, it looked like a poster who was well-known to be a bit trollish was abusing another poster, not that he was trying to exposed an actual scammer.

maybe it was brought to mods attn, mods said 'ignore this' and locked the thread.

yeah i'm being a dick but srsly

ilx will be shocked to discover tuomas recalling this incorrectly

IIrc, the whole chaki thing exploded and she was gone w/in two days.

he did a fine job.

Interestingly, her email no longer works

ilx will be shocked to discover tuomas recalling this incorrectly

I searched the archives, and there were three days of Chaki's "fake" posts before he bothered to explain what he meant by it.

"at first I though he meant Luna had fake boobs"

smh

Tuomas largely OTM on this - there was a lot of "I'd love to explain but it would take time that I could spend being an asshole, so I'll just be mortally offended that people don't take me at my word - as if I, chaki, would be weirdly abusive to female posters for the lulz!"

idk andrew from your characterisations/recollections of other incidents this week, i'm not sure how strongly i'd rely on what you recall from however many years back tbh just sayin

iirc people had been joking(?) about "fake Tuomas" for a while before luna was called out on-board so Tuomas's stance makes sense to me

dude, what the fuck are you talking about?

Interestingly, her email no longer works

husband said he got access to 2 of her email accounts; I only knew of 1. He grilled her last night and she admitted to a lot of shit. I hope he holds to what he told me and leaves ASAP. Said all he cares about now is their son, and man, I hope he's not too scarred/damaged at this point.

btw omar I emailed you at the addr I had for you from like 6 yrs back or whatever.

I dunno, maybe he was dropping that because he wasn't a total dick and was hoping she'd explain herself

i'm talkin about your conclusion that mordy's to blame for twittergate, but tbf this isn't the thread for that, and seemingly there isn't to be a thread for it so i guess nuff said

or, you know, explaining how he determined the "fakeness" would have involved the sort of personal admissions people don't like making

mods otm here. Not sure what other case of recent times TWU is referring to, and i read my IMP and MRQ before breakfast

― the oft-posited third fisherman (darraghmac), Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:09 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I assume he meant what had gone down between WCC and M which is why I said that drawing that comparison was ridiculous because COME ON.

nah enbb perpetrator mentioned as 'he' unless hahaha oh dear no way

I just noticed the information that got deleted from this thread + I don't know why it got deleted.

Right. I thought that he was M.

that wasn't my first thought

oh then I have no idea what it could be

nevermind

OK, fuck it, so much for subtlety. I said he, you dopes, because I was trying to be subtle. WCC has been a destructive presence on this board for a decade or more, constantly threatening self-harm and harassing posters here and elsewhere for real and imagined slights, and that stuff goes unpunished because of -- what exactly? Wasn't saying it was the same case, was saying the mods are more vigililent with tiny little shit than able to actually do anything when it is actually important and the posters are both established and very destructive.

She'll be along asking for my head shortly, I assume.

Good lad, I was worried this wasn't going to turn into a clusterfuck for a second.

It's not. I'm glad I now know that TWU is OTM and not crazy like I thought before he explained but we obv don't need to go down that road again because it's not tolerated and I don't think anyone wants another locked thread.

tbf to wcc "she" has only actually physically attacked ilxors out of the blue irl once or twice so no big whup. certainly not anything the mods need to react to, i'm not sure if she used their real names or anything.

Physically?

what, literally?

its normal for british people

the vicious beatdown of garu g