We got Ant-Man movie

attack the block was so good.

I love this movie so much, it's on Starz all of the time now and I'm always tempted to watch it again.

oh it is? OnDemand too?

Henry Pym is one of the original Marvel assholes

there were like 200 issues of the avengers and years and years of ant man solo strips before jim shooter decided pym was a wifebeating asshole - before that he was yr typical marvel scientist-genius dude like reed richards (tho' yeah, he did change costumes/superhero identity a few times)

wait when did the Yellowjacket personality switch happen?

Yellowjacket appeared in 1968. Shooter might have made him a wife beater, but he made Ultron way back when and was generally unstable for roughly 15 years before beating up Janet.

yellowjacket switch was the result of a lab accident, and mental instability isn't necess the same thing as assholism, imho. i think it's the combo of 'original' and 'asshole' in djp's post that i'm quibbling w/, really - for at least the first seven or so years of his 'career' pym was a p straight-edge superhero type, is what i'm trying to say (and as the very first 'man in the anthill' story predates p much all other marvel heroes, he can claim to be the original original, which is maybe why i retain some affection for him as a character, and kind've hate the wifebeating plotline). no big deal, tho.

That's pretty much my recollection of him too -- generic superhero/scientist until Shooter threw that big deux ex machina into his personality. Englehart made him a bit more hotheaded iirc, but I don't remember any "wow, this guy's as unstable as the molecules in Ben Grimm's shorts"* moments.

*simultaneously proud of and appalled at myself

Regardless of what you think of the wife-beating plotline, Christos Cage has used Pym quite well in the current (though soon-to-be-cancelled, sadly) Avengers Academy book: the beating and Pym's mental problem aren't swept under the rug, but neither are they treated as his only defining traits, as some other writers have done in the past.

The asshole thing seemed to me a logical evolution of a dude with short man syndrome taking the overcompensation too far. Within the first few years of the Avengers he is overcompensating like nobody's business (Goliath, anyone?), and the mental instability and multiple personalities are nascent but obvious.

But it's no big deal, however we each see it. The wife-beating issue was one of the first handful of comics I ever bought, which probably colored my perception of him from the get-go. I'm likely reading the older stuff and seeing all the prior problems as logically leading to the character as I first remember him.

Pym in Avengers Academy is pretty great; comes across as someone who really wants to do good but clearly is driven by past mistakes

Def agree that it's p silly to be too invested in the 'true' character of a corporately owned comic bk character, and wld concede that w/out the slide into instability, he's a fairly undistinguished character (tho I liked the bantering hank-jan relationship that p much went by the wayside after the tales to astonish run finished)

So Feige is saying the usual cagey things about the next batch of movies and in particular:

Writer-director Edgar Wright has been developing the project since before the first Iron Man. “Frankly, now we have to re-write it to put it a little bit more into the [Marvel Cinematic Universe] because it was written before it existed,” Feige said.

Wright, who appeared last night at an EW CapeTown Film Festival double-screening of his movies Shaun of the Dead and Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, also brought his test reel of an action sequence from the movie. In it, we get a clear example of how being small can still be a fearsome way to fight....

Shooting is set for next year, but they still need to cast the main character. “We’ve talked about various names over the past eight years but as you can imagine they keep changing as time goes by,” says Feige. “But towards the end of this year, we’ll buckle down and start casting and start refining the script, which is great and which is very Edgar. He has done a great job being incredibly true to the comics but is putting his own spin on it, so we’ll be drawing on multiple mythologies for this one.”

where is my George Clooney Dr. Strange movie goddammit

Yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath there.

http://kesseljunkie.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/batmangeorgeclooney.jpg

would it help if we reassured him that Dr. Strange does not have nipples

That would be pretty ... strange if he didn't.

where is my George Clooney Dr. Strange movie goddammit

― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, May 3, 2013 4:22 PM

I'd rather fantasize about directors on this one than actors.

clooney's too earthbound to play strange imo

If anyone's gonna be Dr. strange it should be - dare I say it? - FRANCO.

cillian murphy with stache imo

http://wpc.4d27.edgecastcdn.net/004D27/Editorial/CillianMurphyClash/Cillian+Murphy+Clash+2.jpg

Wasn't Patrick Dempsey lobbying for the part at some point?

depp obv

NO

We got Ant-costume

http://badassdigest.com/2013/10/02/edgar-wright-tweets-a-look-at-the-ant-man-costume/

bad ass digest

lol.

We got Ant-Man

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movies/ant-man-casting-paul-rudd-to-star-as-hank-pym-in-edgar-wright-film/

Why is Frost making fun of Ant-Man? We need people who have respect for Ant-Man to do this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWX4GUYGQXQ

I have to admit the only thing that sticks in the mind about Hank Pym's personality is the wife beating.

Ultimate Ant Man doing disco moves in The Wasp's vagina while miniaturised. <shudder>

Hank Pym is a dick, he created Goliath because he got made to feel inadequate by the big boys in the Avengers, then Goliath because reasons, then Yellowjacket so he could kidnap his wife and force her to marry him. Then Goliath and Yellowjacket simultaneously. Then the Wasp.

Despite this, he is maybe the most importantant character in the Marvel U according to Bendis' "Marvel U without Hank Pym" list: http://brianmichaelbendis.tumblr.com/post/49489930167/so-would-you-consider-sharing-those-ideas-as-to-how

Of course, none of this matters because this is the Scott Lang Ant-Man costume so the working assumption is that this is Scott Lang.

We got...

....Michael Douglas as Hank Pym?

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/michael-douglas-ant-man-1201052848/

That's a strange choice. Unless they're planning on ultimately sidelining Hank Pym altgother (which, given his apparent lack of involvement in the filmic MU's Ultron, seems to be the case).

weird, but he is gonna be a mentor to see Rudd's Scott Lang I assume

I'd assume in the movie Pym is just gonna be a scientist who comes up with Pym particles (or whatever the shrinking/growing stuff will be called in it), and Lang will the be the one who actually uses them for superheroics. Making Pym into an (ex-)Ant-Man too sounds overtly complicated for one movie, though I'm sure they'll include some small nod at the fans that acknowledges Pym's larger role in the comics... Just like the Thor movie had a nod acknowledging Dr. Donald Blake, even though they didn't actually include the whole Donald Blake story from the comics.

I think it would be interesting if they worked Pym's scumbaggery into the story somehow. Brilliant scientist, developed these particles/abilities, but was personally too much of an asshole/wife beater to be the hero himself. Found in Lang a human outlet for the heroism that is in there somewhere except he's not willing or able to express it.

michael douglas would seem well cast for that scenario

i dont wanna go see a fun comic book movie about a guy who likes tuning up his old lady

I hope the movie opens with Michael Douglas recreating Geoff Johns's infamous "Your turn!" Ant Man/Wasp scene.

They could play on Lang being a reformed criminal and have a double redemption for hero and mentor.

xp oh god noooooo

We got Ant-Man minus Wright: http://www.newsarama.com/21206-edgar-wright-marvel-part-ways-on-2015-s-ant-man.html

Whoa, that's kinda big. Hasn't he been talking about doing this forever?

Yeah, damn.

Yo wtf

And it's kinda weird to see too since this'll be the next film after Age of Ultron by about two and a half months and presumably important in setting things going for the next phase as such...then again maybe they're hoping that even if this screws up a bit then they can coast on the presumed Ultron afterburners.

conspiracy theory - maybe guardians of the galaxy is getting torn up by focus groups and studio is panicking and getting their damn dirty ape hands all over ant man

That...makes no sense?

Freudian slip.

This movie was fine. Didn't seem like there was a lot of thought/effort put into it, though. I was more blown away by the fact that this is the third mom Judy Greer has played this summer. Yeah, she's 40, but she must feel like Meryl Streep said she felt when one year every offer she got was for a witch role.

or like how Paul Giamatti feels when every offer he's gotten this year is a hated white music figure

not too badly done, though the guy's vocal impression is pretty poor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhuvfJPx0Mk

i loled!

yeah but how do you go to all that trouble and still get the voice so wrong

true of so many internet videos, sadly. It's like those (fantastic) "recut" trailers for the Shining ("Shining") and Jaws ("Must Love Jaws"). They're fucking brilliant in the edits, the music cues and the script, but the latter has a convincing "trailer voice" and the former sounds like someone doing an impression of a trailer voice. I figure it's just some goofball like me who hit on the idea and got excited and made it happen, can't ever really hold it against them for not also being a really talented voice actor.

yeah but phone a friend!

The voice clearly seemed a bit parodic and not necessarily meant to be a direct impression. Pretty good!

We got Ant-Man sequel. Via Marvel itself:

Following our hero’s debut adventure in this summer’s “Ant-Man,” Scott Lang will return alongside Hope Van Dyne on July 6, 2018 with Marvel’s “Ant-Man and the Wasp.” The sequel will mark the first Marvel Studios film named after its heroine.

can't help reading 'ant-man and the wasp' to the tune of 'bennie and the jets'

Loved this. Hilarious and fun Saturday afternoon flick.

Enjoyable enough, in a not really very funny way.

But Marvel really don't have any plot for their solo character movies than 'hero fights evil version of self', do they?

I enjoyed this quite a bit, and thought it was pretty funny. Suspect all the flashes of invention (of which there were plenty) were hangovers from Wright.

I liked how all it took for Scott's ex and her boyfriend to forgive him and reinstate him as a parent was for him to bring an armoured laser toting maniac and a giant ant into their daughter's bedroom.

Bobby Cannevale's "I did it for *you*" to Rudd a little on the homoerotic side in delivery

y did nobody mention martin donovan in this?!

Didnt recognise him Until the end credits, felt a bit silly

Michael Douglas, John Slatterly, and Martin Donovan together at last!

This was fine but it didnt earn any of its attempted emotional beats

Peña's closing monologue is insufficiently celebrated.

not by me. i want him to get his own movie tbqh

Peña stated that he modeled Luis' vocal style and positive outlook on life "on a friend of a friend", saying, "That's just the way he talks and the cadence. He's got this grin on the entire time and he doesn't care. He's the kind of guy where you're like 'Hey, what'd you do this weekend?' and he's like 'I went to jail, dawg,' with a smile on his face. Not a lot of people do that.

I love this

<3 pena is the best