you're not a very nice person, you know that?
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link
Like, we get it, how over IDM you are.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link
I'm just really sick of how you feel the need to come on any thread and stomp all over anyone's possible joy or excitement over it. I get it, you're not into this any more. You're allowed to move on and leave it to other people. You don't have to ruin it for everyone else.
Oh god why the fuck am I even talking to Dog Latin?
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link
If I'm feeling iffy about a gig or an artist, ILM is the worst possible place I could come. Why do I never learn this? Stupid me for not learning after 1000 times.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:32 (eleven years ago) link
Um sorry but I don't think DL was doing any stomping at all, given that all he did was get the demographics of the Bangface crowd wrong.
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link
Meantime, a little flashback to 1993:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgdYh7rgEmQ
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
jesus what happened up there ^^^^
― frogbs, Friday, 8 February 2013 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
british humour
― Crackle Box, Friday, 8 February 2013 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
woah just looked at two threads in one day featuring poster Ludo. weeeyerd.
― andrew m., Friday, 8 February 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
Am I allowed to say "I miss the Old Trout, Windsor" again?
― Mark G, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
Heard "Actium" on a big system yesterday. Sounded fantastic, was suprisingly danceable, and holy hell that's a lot of bass.
― eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 29 April 2013 03:31 (ten years ago) link
you sure can... so many memories for me too
I was at that Aphex Twin gig... i remember a load of the indie/rave kids being REALLY freaked out by all the noise stuff he was playing, and me and one other bloke (who happened to be wearing a Hafler Trio t-shirt) being really into it....
― Stop the tape I got spittle all over my moustache. (Talcum Mucker), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
any takers? http://www.discogs.com/buy/Vinyl/Caustic-Window-Caustic-Window-LP/152379087
― Angkor Waht (Neil S), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 11:31 (ten years ago) link
been taken down already
― narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 13:05 (ten years ago) link
either that or someone has already bought it
says that the four ppl who own that are RDJ, Grant from Rephlex, Cylob and u-Ziq. it would be rude to speculate which if any of those individuals might need the money the most
― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 13:18 (ten years ago) link
seller write-up says it's the 5th copy
― original bgm, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 13:48 (ten years ago) link
reading upthread, drukqs dismissed as "leftovers"... huh. is this still a perception held by people?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link
I seem to recall that yes, that was a commonly held perception at the time, but I'd agree people have largely given up that fight and given in to the album over the last 13 (!) years.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link
that's funny, because 29 discogs users claim to own it
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:25 (ten years ago) link
Huh, on wikipedia:
In an October 2010 interview with British magazine Another Man, James stated that he had completed 6 albums, one of which was a remake of the unreleased Melodies from Mars, originally produced around the time of Richard D. James Album.[25] In June 2011, he spoke to Spanish magazine EL PAIS. When asked about the 6 albums, he answered 'More than 10 or 11 are already compiled, and many more songs are orphans.' He also revealed that a new album 'will show in a while' and that the reason it has been so long since his last album was that he was waiting for a divorce from his wife.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:25 (ten years ago) link
Ha, I didn't hear this one, either:
In November 1995, The Wire published an article titled "Advice to Clever Children". In the process of producing the interview, a package of tapes containing music from several artists, including Aphex Twin, was sent to Karlheinz Stockhausen.Stockhausen commented:I heard the piece Aphex Twin of Richard James (sic) carefully: I think it would be very helpful if he listens to my work "Song of the Youth", which is electronic music, and a young boy's voice singing with himself. Because he would then immediately stop with all these post-African repetitions, and he would look for changing tempi and changing rhythms, and he would not allow to repeat any rhythm if it varied to some extent and if it did not have a direction in its sequence of variations.[42]Aphex Twin, a fan of Stockhausen, responded:"I thought he should listen to a couple of tracks of mine: "Digeridoo", then he'd stop making abstract, random patterns you can't dance to".[42]
Stockhausen commented:I heard the piece Aphex Twin of Richard James (sic) carefully: I think it would be very helpful if he listens to my work "Song of the Youth", which is electronic music, and a young boy's voice singing with himself. Because he would then immediately stop with all these post-African repetitions, and he would look for changing tempi and changing rhythms, and he would not allow to repeat any rhythm if it varied to some extent and if it did not have a direction in its sequence of variations.[42]
Aphex Twin, a fan of Stockhausen, responded:"I thought he should listen to a couple of tracks of mine: "Digeridoo", then he'd stop making abstract, random patterns you can't dance to".[42]
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link
the reason it has been so long since his last album was that he was waiting for a divorce from his wife
Think he was determined to wait until there was no chance of her being able to claim a cut of revenue from releases, yeah
― Brakhage, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link
lol at the RDJ/Stockhausen exchange.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:36 (ten years ago) link
the nme gave drukqs 9/10 while most of the people who ought to have known better misunderstood it
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link
it would be rude to speculate which if any of those individuals might need the money the most― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 13:18
def cylob
― am0n, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link
FLAC rips?
― Ned Zeppelin (Leee), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:00 (ten years ago) link
sounds like an RDJ title
― lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link
when in his career has RDJ not claimed to have stacks of unreleased material ready to go?
― twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link
Stacks of unreleased material generally means loads of crap that needs some quality control (an issue he's had through most of his career when he was actually releasing shit). I bet his 6 albums+ of stuff could probably be reduced down to 1 album and 3 EPs of awesomeness.
― octobeard, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 00:28 (ten years ago) link
last two posts OTM. I never did get to know Analord in the end because the whole exercise felt a bit tl;dl
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 09:23 (ten years ago) link
I would love it if he just released a concise 12-track album soon. It's been 18 years or something since RDJ Album.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 09:24 (ten years ago) link
Why would you want to edit down his albums though? They all "work" as albums and I take issue with the idea that there is lots of filler.
― Angkor Waht (Neil S), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 09:33 (ten years ago) link
The point is, in the last decade+ he's had a habit of not releasing anything for ages and then spoodging out a huge glut of material in one go. It's not always gold either and even dedicated fans have trouble negotiating it. I still don't think Druqks works as an album, more like five different albums on shuffle. Analord has a few ace moments but I never could get up the patience to listen to all 10 releases to find them. I have to say I preferred it when he stuck to a singular style over the course of one LP (SAW/RDJ Album) or did a chocolate-box thing (Windowlicker/ICBYD) over the course of a shorter work. But these sprawling things like Druqks and Analord, I just find them a bit of a slog.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 09:48 (ten years ago) link
but octobeard was saying that ALL his records could do with that kind of editing, which is wrong IMO. Maybe Drukqs could do with this, though I think that's debatable. I admit to have never taken on Analords, perhaps for the reasons you alude to.
― Angkor Waht (Neil S), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 09:52 (ten years ago) link
I wouldn't say ALL his records need trimming, if anything it's a shame that some iterations of SAWII had to have tracks cut from them. But yeah, RDJ started suffering from the same disease as Squarepusher after a while and seemed to be releasing stuff with little adherence to quality control. I liked his approach on the RDJ Album where he was going for extremely tight compositions with a strict 'no fannydangle' rule, meaning he could release an album of 10 3-4 minute tracks and get all his ideas in at once.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 10:02 (ten years ago) link
the analords are fantastic. i like hearing him do more process-based acid traxx about as much as his more thoroughly edited conventional album-oriented music.
― clouds, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 12:58 (ten years ago) link
Think I'd have preferred Analord if it had been a single-EP release or something in the vein of Analogue Bubblebath 3 under the AFX name (it's Aphex Twin, right?). I'm aware of the Chosen Lords comp, but from what I heard the track choices were somewhat arbitrary and skipped out a lot of good stuff.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 13:25 (ten years ago) link
I thought the Analord releases were great! I didn't find them a slog at all. The aesthetic is also totally unified and consistent, as opposed to Drukqs, where there are indeed at least three distinct styles lobbying for attention.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 13:29 (ten years ago) link
i like the grab bag tho
is "cohesiveness" necessarily a sign of "artistic integrity"?
― clouds, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:00 (ten years ago) link
Probably not, but it is conspicuous from an artist who seriously or not has claimed that he's just handed random DATs and whatnot to labels when pressed for material or remixes.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:02 (ten years ago) link
ICBYD is a grab bag and I love that. Feel like Druqks could have been released as maybe two shortish albums and an experimental EP.
I have a theory that 'cohesiveness' is a quality which has come to be more synonymous with artistic integrity since the end of the nineties.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:30 (ten years ago) link
think he shd release what he likes how he likes but i'm a feckless libertarian so
― twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:24 (ten years ago) link
bbbut what about this notional idea of "cohesion"?????
― Angkor Waht (Neil S), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link
Cohesiveness is almost by definition a good quality unless lack of cohesion is what you're after. And even then, I'm not sure how much I rate lack of cohesion as an attribute worth regularly pursuing. But something that's all over the place can still be "cohesive:" White Album, etc. So who knows. I just in the case of RDJ lack of cohesion can mostly be read as "jarring juxtapositions." But that can be cool too.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link
http://www.factmag.com/2014/04/01/material-from-aphex-twins-lost-selected-ambient-works-vol-3-surfaces-online-listen-here/
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link
one of the few things i miss about Ye Olde Napstere 1.0 was d/ling loads of alleged Aphex tracks and pondering whether they were genuine and whether i cared
― twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link
if u need architectonic integrity then the plaintive second analord ep of phonatacid / laricheared / pissed up in se1 / bwoon dub is as perfect a 25mins or so of music as anyone released in the last decade
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:55 (ten years ago) link
one of the few things i miss about Ye Olde Napstere 1.0 was d/ling loads of alleged Aphex tracks and pondering whether they were genuine and whether i cared― twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, April 9, 2014 4:54 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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I had a lot of success with one of my homemade rare Boards of Canada tracks back in 2000.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:59 (ten years ago) link
fact article : april 1st.
hmmm ??
― mark e, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 16:03 (ten years ago) link