Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

maybe he'll be...sat amongst the crowd. DA DA DAAAAAAAAH

I would suggest going early to see the rain thing there but queues for it are prett crazy atm and probably everyone else will have had the same idea.

I was trying to get in the mood listening to SAWs on the bus. But it's not going to be SAWs, it's going to be something completely new and different and orchestral. So I should be excited about that aspect, that it will probably be completely unpredictable and unexpected, no matter what he is doing.

What is the rain thing? I have a couple of hours to kill but I hate queueing.

http://www.barbican.org.uk/artgallery/event-detail.asp?ID=13723

TWO HOUR QUEUE TIMES?!?!?!?

I haven't got that much time to kill. Looks cool, tho.

But after experiencing Orcadian rainstorms last week I am not really keen to experience any more rain, art or no.

"I know what you mean about Bangface. I've never actually been but if it's anything like the Planet-µ night I attended several years ago now, there's an intense level of fawning geekery pervasive throughout the night, and not in a pleasant way. I don't really know what Aphex fans are like these days mind you."

No no no. Bangface is full of young people off their tits on ridiculous amounts of drugs lots of nakedness drawing on each other silly sweaty dancing glowsticks very very trash dreadlocks gurning that sort of thing. I tend to go once every... few years.

^^^that is what I suspected about Bangface, so the combination of Bangface plus Newquay was just one of those... "um, just, no." moments for me.

I had fun at the club nights back in the day but (I think I posted this before somewhere) people's descriptions of previous Bangface festivals reminded me of what you read about, like, Deadheads in the 80s, after the good times had gone and it was just burnouts

No no no. Bangface is full of young people off their tits on ridiculous amounts of drugs lots of nakedness drawing on each other silly sweaty dancing glowsticks very very trash dreadlocks gurning that sort of thing. I tend to go once every... few years.

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Oh well that's okay then. Rather a bunch of mental ravers dancing about than a room full of sweaty dorks crowing for obscure Wagon Christ B-sides.

Oh just fucking shut up.

you're not a very nice person, you know that?

Like, we get it, how over IDM you are.

I'm just really sick of how you feel the need to come on any thread and stomp all over anyone's possible joy or excitement over it. I get it, you're not into this any more. You're allowed to move on and leave it to other people. You don't have to ruin it for everyone else.

Oh god why the fuck am I even talking to Dog Latin?

If I'm feeling iffy about a gig or an artist, ILM is the worst possible place I could come. Why do I never learn this? Stupid me for not learning after 1000 times.

Um sorry but I don't think DL was doing any stomping at all, given that all he did was get the demographics of the Bangface crowd wrong.

Meantime, a little flashback to 1993:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgdYh7rgEmQ

jesus what happened up there ^^^^

british humour

woah just looked at two threads in one day featuring poster Ludo. weeeyerd.

Am I allowed to say "I miss the Old Trout, Windsor" again?

Heard "Actium" on a big system yesterday. Sounded fantastic, was suprisingly danceable, and holy hell that's a lot of bass.

Am I allowed to say "I miss the Old Trout, Windsor" again?

you sure can... so many memories for me too

I was at that Aphex Twin gig... i remember a load of the indie/rave kids being REALLY freaked out by all the noise stuff he was playing, and me and one other bloke (who happened to be wearing a Hafler Trio t-shirt) being really into it....

any takers? http://www.discogs.com/buy/Vinyl/Caustic-Window-Caustic-Window-LP/152379087

been taken down already

either that or someone has already bought it

says that the four ppl who own that are RDJ, Grant from Rephlex, Cylob and u-Ziq. it would be rude to speculate which if any of those individuals might need the money the most

seller write-up says it's the 5th copy

reading upthread, drukqs dismissed as "leftovers"... huh. is this still a perception held by people?

I seem to recall that yes, that was a commonly held perception at the time, but I'd agree people have largely given up that fight and given in to the album over the last 13 (!) years.

seller write-up says it's the 5th copy

that's funny, because 29 discogs users claim to own it

Huh, on wikipedia:

In an October 2010 interview with British magazine Another Man, James stated that he had completed 6 albums, one of which was a remake of the unreleased Melodies from Mars, originally produced around the time of Richard D. James Album.[25] In June 2011, he spoke to Spanish magazine EL PAIS. When asked about the 6 albums, he answered 'More than 10 or 11 are already compiled, and many more songs are orphans.' He also revealed that a new album 'will show in a while' and that the reason it has been so long since his last album was that he was waiting for a divorce from his wife.

Ha, I didn't hear this one, either:

In November 1995, The Wire published an article titled "Advice to Clever Children". In the process of producing the interview, a package of tapes containing music from several artists, including Aphex Twin, was sent to Karlheinz Stockhausen.

Stockhausen commented:
I heard the piece Aphex Twin of Richard James (sic) carefully: I think it would be very helpful if he listens to my work "Song of the Youth", which is electronic music, and a young boy's voice singing with himself. Because he would then immediately stop with all these post-African repetitions, and he would look for changing tempi and changing rhythms, and he would not allow to repeat any rhythm if it varied to some extent and if it did not have a direction in its sequence of variations.[42]

Aphex Twin, a fan of Stockhausen, responded:
"I thought he should listen to a couple of tracks of mine: "Digeridoo", then he'd stop making abstract, random patterns you can't dance to".[42]

the reason it has been so long since his last album was that he was waiting for a divorce from his wife

Think he was determined to wait until there was no chance of her being able to claim a cut of revenue from releases, yeah

lol at the RDJ/Stockhausen exchange.

the nme gave drukqs 9/10 while most of the people who ought to have known better misunderstood it

it would be rude to speculate which if any of those individuals might need the money the most
― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 13:18

def cylob

that's funny, because 29 discogs users claim to own it

FLAC rips?

FLAC rips?

sounds like an RDJ title

when in his career has RDJ not claimed to have stacks of unreleased material ready to go?

Stacks of unreleased material generally means loads of crap that needs some quality control (an issue he's had through most of his career when he was actually releasing shit). I bet his 6 albums+ of stuff could probably be reduced down to 1 album and 3 EPs of awesomeness.

last two posts OTM. I never did get to know Analord in the end because the whole exercise felt a bit tl;dl

I would love it if he just released a concise 12-track album soon. It's been 18 years or something since RDJ Album.

Why would you want to edit down his albums though? They all "work" as albums and I take issue with the idea that there is lots of filler.

The point is, in the last decade+ he's had a habit of not releasing anything for ages and then spoodging out a huge glut of material in one go. It's not always gold either and even dedicated fans have trouble negotiating it. I still don't think Druqks works as an album, more like five different albums on shuffle. Analord has a few ace moments but I never could get up the patience to listen to all 10 releases to find them. I have to say I preferred it when he stuck to a singular style over the course of one LP (SAW/RDJ Album) or did a chocolate-box thing (Windowlicker/ICBYD) over the course of a shorter work. But these sprawling things like Druqks and Analord, I just find them a bit of a slog.

but octobeard was saying that ALL his records could do with that kind of editing, which is wrong IMO. Maybe Drukqs could do with this, though I think that's debatable. I admit to have never taken on Analords, perhaps for the reasons you alude to.

I wouldn't say ALL his records need trimming, if anything it's a shame that some iterations of SAWII had to have tracks cut from them. But yeah, RDJ started suffering from the same disease as Squarepusher after a while and seemed to be releasing stuff with little adherence to quality control. I liked his approach on the RDJ Album where he was going for extremely tight compositions with a strict 'no fannydangle' rule, meaning he could release an album of 10 3-4 minute tracks and get all his ideas in at once.

the analords are fantastic. i like hearing him do more process-based acid traxx about as much as his more thoroughly edited conventional album-oriented music.

Think I'd have preferred Analord if it had been a single-EP release or something in the vein of Analogue Bubblebath 3 under the AFX name (it's Aphex Twin, right?). I'm aware of the Chosen Lords comp, but from what I heard the track choices were somewhat arbitrary and skipped out a lot of good stuff.

I thought the Analord releases were great! I didn't find them a slog at all. The aesthetic is also totally unified and consistent, as opposed to Drukqs, where there are indeed at least three distinct styles lobbying for attention.

i like the grab bag tho

is "cohesiveness" necessarily a sign of "artistic integrity"?