Macklemore, "Same Love"

I still wouldn't buy his music though. I'd just, you know, defend him on the internet.

I still define conscious rap as afrocentric, this post atmosphere stuff feels different imo

they're gonna do no. 1 on billboard next week

actually i guess mumfords are gonna go no. 1 again, but macklemore will be up there

Your take on this guy, Jordan?

i haven't gotten around to listening to this stuff much yet but uhhhh about what you would expect, i think

Lol. I guess I just want there to be some kind of mystery that I'm not getting here. I hate hating on stuff that's just too easy to hate.

After a bit of consideration it's very interesting that the kids actually WANT this. It's basically anti-hipster music, music that's taking sincerity to another level, all big feelings and no holding back, no irony or guile, the rap equivalent of Big Country and Mumford & sons. It's a sign of the times.

I mean, Atmosphere was for the rap nerds. This is for the kids.

"The question isn't whether this Seattle alt-rapper is a cornball, it's whether he's so dumb he's a cornball or so brave he's a cornball."

-Christgau

I don't think it's either or.

http://www.complex.com/music/2012/10/macklemore-ryan-lewis-the-heist-sells-over-74000-copies

Dude's number 2 - after Mumford, appropriately enough.

It's basically anti-hipster music

if we're still using hipster in 2012 it seems pretty hipster 2 me

how? (and for the record i'm not usually using hipster in 2012)

also, what the fuck even is this

well starting at that video, for one

That vid is a lark that's pretty much 180 from what he normally does. He's making fun of hipsters in it, not embracing them.

would you say he's being... sarcastic

He is being blatantly dorky and uncool. It compliments his usual overly sincere thing more than it contradicts it, I think. I'm impressed by how good he is at selling this to his audience. And it's too broad to be sarcastic, probably.

He is being blatantly dorky and uncool. It compliments his usual overly sincere thing more than it contradicts it, I think.

Yup.

He seems like someone I would have known in college, like maybe someone everyone knew in college. Fun at parties, basically a good guy in spite of his putzy personality, someone you'd probably wind up bear hugging at 3AM when plastered and telling him he's "da man"

Speaking of white independent rappers who are more popular with the kids than with the crits, this new Nico-sampling Mac Miller joint is pretty out there. I like it.
http://soundcloud.com/larryfisherman/these-dayz-dope-awprah-prod

I came looking for this thread expecting to find a good centralized collection of enthusiasms. Surprised to find a bunch of casual dismissal instead. But "the rap equivalent of Big Country" is perfect, thanks.

I'm enthusiastic about the song in the thread title. Big time. Thrift Shop is pretty irresistible. Guy's got several decent to above average songs, and some clunkers, too. And he gets to preachy, but we know that going in.

But as far as I'm concerned, "Same Love" gives him a pass for his missteps.

Seems like a solid dude. Give me Macklemore over, like, Spaceghostpurp or whatever.

I just heard the whole album for the first time, so I shouldn't make any grand statements, but between this, Urthboy and K'naan it's seeming like a really good year for hip hop pop, or whatever this stuff is, to me. (Plus all the 2010/2011 grime I missed at the time.)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6iekmPrvL1qb9wqio12_250.gif

k'naan is probably one of those guys that's like way more popular than you think he is

Seems like a solid dude. Give me Macklemore over, like, Spaceghostpurp or whatever.

lol talk about stacking the deck

fair enough. how bout Main Attrakionz or however you spell it?

How about them?

maybe they're a slightly fairer fight

Real talk I'd listen to nothing but Spaceghostpurrp and Main Attrakionz for a month if it meant I never had to see Macklemore's name again.

It makes sense that someone who doesn't like MA or Spaceghostburp might enjoy Mackiemore though.

i dont think anyone here really reps for either main attrakionz or sgp

I though 808 was great, but not feeling the album, like the other Green Ova more (Shady Blaze)

ha i like main attrakionz a lot

i really hope people irl pronounce their name phonetically

Not saying anyone here reps for ma or sgp but I sure do read their names a lot on the internet. Just saying id rather listen to this corny dude than those currently "cool" dudes, that's all.

Definitely know where the Rev stands on Macklemore by now, tho.

this guy is vile, but i find much to enjoy in that thrift shop song

been a bit of a cult favourite at parties the past few months or so

ha, to be fair I've been a lot more cogent in my macklemore hate on twitter than I have here but don't feel like rehashing all the stuff I said there so just settling for base-lvl hatin' instead

safe, acceptable, Bellevue High School class of 2014

Roll the year back a bit and allow for all the other eastside burbs and this is like 50% of my students. They all seem to love the shit out of these dudes.

I like Main Attrakionz but their problem is that they're not important to anyone. Mackiemore stakes his career on being incredibly important to a certain audience. So in a sense he wins even though I kinda hate him.

that's otm

How the fuck did this guy make it to #1 in NZ w/"Thrift Shop"?

that sounds about right

it's pretty killer if you ignore him completely and never watch the video or learn the title

entered at #4 in Australia last week, up to #2 this week

PS I love Thrift Shop ;-;

The beat is annoying and stiff as fuck tho. xp

thrift shop is super corny

beat is the thing i like most about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

i thought it was the only thing anyone liked about it

Ah yes.

https://www.xxlmag.com/news/2019/11/macklemore-magician-magic-rap-album/

wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq-NShfefks

fred durst runs a magic themed jazz night in LA

white rappers are magic