Macklemore, "Same Love"

I think I got tired of being told by earnest white kids who would be repulsed by the idea of listening to Jay-Z or Lil Wayne that I should listen to Macklemore, ooooh, about 5 years ago.

none of atmosphere are white tho

The Heist is inventive and original. In fact, this album is almost perfect. Except, however, for one song. “White Walls ft. ScHoolBoy Q & Hollis” glamorizes the offensively stereotypical rap favorites of Cadillacs, rims, and hoes. ScHoolBoy Q’s verse, with lines like “White hoes in the back seat snorting coke” are so glaringly out of place that I’ve been trying to figure out if I’m misinterpreting the song. On an album that attacks name brands, eschews misogyny for inclusiveness, and chronicles substance abuse, hoes snorting coke in a Cadillac seem out of place. It’s a sour note that throws off the rest of the otherwise brilliant album.

Mack L'Amour would be a good name for a Heavy D type rapper

and just now Macklemore is on the radio rapping intensely and earnestly about his battle for sobriety

ha some dude

according to my facebook feed over the last 20 minutes The Gays are Sold

oh lord

Dick's is the place where the cool hang out.

I've never liked their burgers tbh. I did meet Tabes outside of Dick's tho!

I finally heard some of this guy's stuff and it just seems like the logical extension of a lot of the underground rap that was predominantly popular with white teenagers--he's definitely a more humorless Slug, but I could see this kinda thing ticking boxes for people who were also really into, like, Eyedea or Cunninlynguists.

That being said, I have liked a couple songs by all three of those and nothing this guy has put out seems remotely close to listenable? What is the appeal beyond him "not rapping about hoes and cars," because the lyrics can't be it?

also, what the fuck even is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhf5cuXiLTA

What is the appeal beyond him "not rapping about hoes and cars," because the lyrics can't be it?

― fadanuf4erybody, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 8:26 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

conscious rap has always been one of those genres defined more by what it's not about than what it's about.

yeah i get that, but this kinda thing is so separate from the actual genre in a way closer to mac miller than, i dunno, any of those '00s white guys or talib kweli. honestly shocked that schoolboy q has a verse on this, just so out of place

i think there's some rule that every rapper who becomes famous or semi-famous the same year has to do a song together, no matter how little sense it makes

I don't love this dude, but it's hard to hate thrift shop

and maaaan I tried

i can't decide if his voice sounds more exactly like slug's or buck 65's (all wite rappers sound the same)

Mack L'Amour would be a good name for a Heavy D type rapper

― some dude, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 11:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If Macklemore changed his name to Mack L'Amour I'd become a fan.

I still wouldn't buy his music though. I'd just, you know, defend him on the internet.

I still define conscious rap as afrocentric, this post atmosphere stuff feels different imo

they're gonna do no. 1 on billboard next week

actually i guess mumfords are gonna go no. 1 again, but macklemore will be up there

Your take on this guy, Jordan?

i haven't gotten around to listening to this stuff much yet but uhhhh about what you would expect, i think

Lol. I guess I just want there to be some kind of mystery that I'm not getting here. I hate hating on stuff that's just too easy to hate.

After a bit of consideration it's very interesting that the kids actually WANT this. It's basically anti-hipster music, music that's taking sincerity to another level, all big feelings and no holding back, no irony or guile, the rap equivalent of Big Country and Mumford & sons. It's a sign of the times.

I mean, Atmosphere was for the rap nerds. This is for the kids.

"The question isn't whether this Seattle alt-rapper is a cornball, it's whether he's so dumb he's a cornball or so brave he's a cornball."

-Christgau

I don't think it's either or.

http://www.complex.com/music/2012/10/macklemore-ryan-lewis-the-heist-sells-over-74000-copies

Dude's number 2 - after Mumford, appropriately enough.

It's basically anti-hipster music

if we're still using hipster in 2012 it seems pretty hipster 2 me

how? (and for the record i'm not usually using hipster in 2012)

also, what the fuck even is this

well starting at that video, for one

That vid is a lark that's pretty much 180 from what he normally does. He's making fun of hipsters in it, not embracing them.

would you say he's being... sarcastic

He is being blatantly dorky and uncool. It compliments his usual overly sincere thing more than it contradicts it, I think. I'm impressed by how good he is at selling this to his audience. And it's too broad to be sarcastic, probably.

He is being blatantly dorky and uncool. It compliments his usual overly sincere thing more than it contradicts it, I think.

Yup.

He seems like someone I would have known in college, like maybe someone everyone knew in college. Fun at parties, basically a good guy in spite of his putzy personality, someone you'd probably wind up bear hugging at 3AM when plastered and telling him he's "da man"

Speaking of white independent rappers who are more popular with the kids than with the crits, this new Nico-sampling Mac Miller joint is pretty out there. I like it.
http://soundcloud.com/larryfisherman/these-dayz-dope-awprah-prod

I came looking for this thread expecting to find a good centralized collection of enthusiasms. Surprised to find a bunch of casual dismissal instead. But "the rap equivalent of Big Country" is perfect, thanks.

I'm enthusiastic about the song in the thread title. Big time. Thrift Shop is pretty irresistible. Guy's got several decent to above average songs, and some clunkers, too. And he gets to preachy, but we know that going in.

But as far as I'm concerned, "Same Love" gives him a pass for his missteps.

Seems like a solid dude. Give me Macklemore over, like, Spaceghostpurp or whatever.

I just heard the whole album for the first time, so I shouldn't make any grand statements, but between this, Urthboy and K'naan it's seeming like a really good year for hip hop pop, or whatever this stuff is, to me. (Plus all the 2010/2011 grime I missed at the time.)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6iekmPrvL1qb9wqio12_250.gif

k'naan is probably one of those guys that's like way more popular than you think he is

Seems like a solid dude. Give me Macklemore over, like, Spaceghostpurp or whatever.

lol talk about stacking the deck

fair enough. how bout Main Attrakionz or however you spell it?

How about them?

maybe they're a slightly fairer fight

Real talk I'd listen to nothing but Spaceghostpurrp and Main Attrakionz for a month if it meant I never had to see Macklemore's name again.

"Thrift Shop" rewrite: "Groupon Deal"

...or the Weird Al version. Did he do a Macklemore already?

He just put Thrift Shop into a polka, which is what he usually does when he can't figure out good parody ideas for popular songs.

I'm gonna scalp some tix
got front row seats in my pocket
What is this, no business
this is fucking bullshit

i saw him a few years ago and it wasn't terrible in the context of how i imagined i would feel about a macklemore concert

same. saw him in a 1000-cap shithole just before he broke big and he was pretty enjoyable. but i def pass for a Macklepologist around here

he's (among others) headlining Roskilde, orange stage holds up to 70000 people... will maybe seem empty

http://drw5li4pnyc3g.cloudfront.net/2004/rf16-poster-meta-1200x630.png

tenacious d is still a thing?

lol I read that as Roadkill Festival, which seems about right

Haters gonna hate:

http://www.citypages.com/music/macklemore-at-target-center-an-embarrassing-timeline-8343245

this piece is bad

yea man check this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3mC__9qNoA

xpost

tenacious d is still a thing?

― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

holy shit this came out 3 years ago?

ugh this song, fucking die

as the commenter suggests the Lambert line would probably be intended to reflect on her own sexuality, not Macklemore's

how did you not post this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAAMQLb4ZE

holy shit this came out 3 years ago?

two years later:

ugh this song, fucking die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUj-65MxhEA

Ah yes.

https://www.xxlmag.com/news/2019/11/macklemore-magician-magic-rap-album/

wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq-NShfefks

fred durst runs a magic themed jazz night in LA

white rappers are magic