^^ otm, except that I haven't really heard anything I like.
I think what's interesting is that Macklemore seems to be actually crossing over big time without any real media backing outside of the XXL freshmen cover. No one is really paying attention, "important" bloggers and writers are treating him as a joke but sells out shows everywhere (or so I'm told). Mac Miller already did that, but at least he had the Wiz connection, you know? But Mac is too easy to hate and so is Macklemore. So I'm thinking there's something we're missing here, probably. I'm fine with not liking everything the kids like but I like to understand what's going on.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
I deal with condescending white liberal Seattlites day in and day out and I have never, not even once when encountering these folks, thought to myself, "you should rap."
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
there's a generation of Atmosphere fans out there
― rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
never forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp_lW7yYgiM
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I guess he's the new Slug, really. Atmosphere had some good songs though.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
Atmosphere are the only band I've ever heckled
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
tbf he did go to Garfield, not Bellevue High. I'm not about to start bragging to anyone that he went to my high school though.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
imo it's just the same 'certain strain of white kids that are mainly interested in white rappers' that's been around in different forms for ages, rallying around the beasties, then v.ice, then house of pain, icp, eminem, atmosphere, etc etc etc. the other day i saw a 12 year old girl in a mac miller shirt walking around target w/ her mom.
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
― JoeStork, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 3:19 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I said his fans did, not him
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
I think I got tired of being told by earnest white kids who would be repulsed by the idea of listening to Jay-Z or Lil Wayne that I should listen to Macklemore, ooooh, about 5 years ago.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
none of atmosphere are white tho
― rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
The Heist is inventive and original. In fact, this album is almost perfect. Except, however, for one song. “White Walls ft. ScHoolBoy Q & Hollis” glamorizes the offensively stereotypical rap favorites of Cadillacs, rims, and hoes. ScHoolBoy Q’s verse, with lines like “White hoes in the back seat snorting coke” are so glaringly out of place that I’ve been trying to figure out if I’m misinterpreting the song. On an album that attacks name brands, eschews misogyny for inclusiveness, and chronicles substance abuse, hoes snorting coke in a Cadillac seem out of place. It’s a sour note that throws off the rest of the otherwise brilliant album.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
Mack L'Amour would be a good name for a Heavy D type rapper
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
and just now Macklemore is on the radio rapping intensely and earnestly about his battle for sobriety
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
ha some dude
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
according to my facebook feed over the last 20 minutes The Gays are Sold
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
oh lord
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
Dick's is the place where the cool hang out.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
I've never liked their burgers tbh. I did meet Tabes outside of Dick's tho!
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
I finally heard some of this guy's stuff and it just seems like the logical extension of a lot of the underground rap that was predominantly popular with white teenagers--he's definitely a more humorless Slug, but I could see this kinda thing ticking boxes for people who were also really into, like, Eyedea or Cunninlynguists.
That being said, I have liked a couple songs by all three of those and nothing this guy has put out seems remotely close to listenable? What is the appeal beyond him "not rapping about hoes and cars," because the lyrics can't be it?
― fadanuf4erybody, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
also, what the fuck even is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhf5cuXiLTA
― fadanuf4erybody, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link
What is the appeal beyond him "not rapping about hoes and cars," because the lyrics can't be it?
― fadanuf4erybody, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 8:26 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
conscious rap has always been one of those genres defined more by what it's not about than what it's about.
― some dude, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i get that, but this kinda thing is so separate from the actual genre in a way closer to mac miller than, i dunno, any of those '00s white guys or talib kweli. honestly shocked that schoolboy q has a verse on this, just so out of place
― fadanuf4erybody, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
i think there's some rule that every rapper who becomes famous or semi-famous the same year has to do a song together, no matter how little sense it makes
― some dude, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
I don't love this dude, but it's hard to hate thrift shop
― has important things to say about gangnam style (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 02:08 (eleven years ago) link
and maaaan I tried
i can't decide if his voice sounds more exactly like slug's or buck 65's (all wite rappers sound the same)
― zachylon (zachlyon), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, October 9, 2012 11:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
If Macklemore changed his name to Mack L'Amour I'd become a fan.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 06:46 (eleven years ago) link
I still wouldn't buy his music though. I'd just, you know, defend him on the internet.
I still define conscious rap as afrocentric, this post atmosphere stuff feels different imo
― rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
they're gonna do no. 1 on billboard next week
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
actually i guess mumfords are gonna go no. 1 again, but macklemore will be up there
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
Your take on this guy, Jordan?
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't gotten around to listening to this stuff much yet but uhhhh about what you would expect, i think
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Lol. I guess I just want there to be some kind of mystery that I'm not getting here. I hate hating on stuff that's just too easy to hate.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
After a bit of consideration it's very interesting that the kids actually WANT this. It's basically anti-hipster music, music that's taking sincerity to another level, all big feelings and no holding back, no irony or guile, the rap equivalent of Big Country and Mumford & sons. It's a sign of the times.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Thursday, 11 October 2012 09:43 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, Atmosphere was for the rap nerds. This is for the kids.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Thursday, 11 October 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link
"The question isn't whether this Seattle alt-rapper is a cornball, it's whether he's so dumb he's a cornball or so brave he's a cornball."
-Christgau
― alpine static, Monday, 15 October 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think it's either or.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Monday, 15 October 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.complex.com/music/2012/10/macklemore-ryan-lewis-the-heist-sells-over-74000-copies
Dude's number 2 - after Mumford, appropriately enough.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
It's basically anti-hipster music
if we're still using hipster in 2012 it seems pretty hipster 2 me
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
how? (and for the record i'm not usually using hipster in 2012)
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
also, what the fuck even is this
well starting at that video, for one
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
That vid is a lark that's pretty much 180 from what he normally does. He's making fun of hipsters in it, not embracing them.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
would you say he's being... sarcastic
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
He is being blatantly dorky and uncool. It compliments his usual overly sincere thing more than it contradicts it, I think. I'm impressed by how good he is at selling this to his audience. And it's too broad to be sarcastic, probably.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
He is being blatantly dorky and uncool. It compliments his usual overly sincere thing more than it contradicts it, I think.
Yup.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
He seems like someone I would have known in college, like maybe someone everyone knew in college. Fun at parties, basically a good guy in spite of his putzy personality, someone you'd probably wind up bear hugging at 3AM when plastered and telling him he's "da man"
― michael bolton's reckless daughter (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
Speaking of white independent rappers who are more popular with the kids than with the crits, this new Nico-sampling Mac Miller joint is pretty out there. I like it. http://soundcloud.com/larryfisherman/these-dayz-dope-awprah-prod
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
I came looking for this thread expecting to find a good centralized collection of enthusiasms. Surprised to find a bunch of casual dismissal instead. But "the rap equivalent of Big Country" is perfect, thanks.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
Opposite to macklemore is macklebeg u ignorant yanks
― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Monday, 2 May 2016 08:06 (seven years ago) link
I just assumed most of Macklemore's fanbase have moved on to other things like Twenty One Pilots or Hamilton.
― MarkoP, Monday, 2 May 2016 13:27 (seven years ago) link
Deservedly in both cases.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 May 2016 13:36 (seven years ago) link
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/files/img/ah/g-eazy/aragon-ballroom/g-eazy-1.jpg
― ejemplo (crüt), Monday, 2 May 2016 13:52 (seven years ago) link
oh hi crüt did you have a question, you can lower your hand :)
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 2 May 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link
Minneapolis date tickets just popped up on Groupon, ouch
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 5 June 2016 00:27 (seven years ago) link
that is exquisite
― lag∞n, Sunday, 5 June 2016 05:02 (seven years ago) link
Seriously? Even here he's playing a relatively small place, not typically befitting a multiplatinum superstar. Wow, I guess that's not sold out either? Ouch. Which buyer's remorse is worse, him or Iggy?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 June 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
haha okay I know this was originally annnounced as a Target Center show (where the Timberwolves play) now it's at the "U.S. Bank Theater at Target Center"
U.S. Bank Theater[edit]Target Center can convert into a 2,500-to-7,500-seat theater known as the U.S. Bank Theater. The Theater contains a moveable floor-to-ceiling curtain system that allows the venue to be transformed based on specific show needs. In addition to concerts, the U.S. Bank Theater can also be used for family and Broadway shows.[24]
aka your show sold shit
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link
"Thrift Shop" rewrite: "Groupon Deal"
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link
...or the Weird Al version. Did he do a Macklemore already?
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link
He just put Thrift Shop into a polka, which is what he usually does when he can't figure out good parody ideas for popular songs.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link
I'm gonna scalp some tixgot front row seats in my pocketWhat is this, no businessthis is fucking bullshit
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:51 (seven years ago) link
i saw him a few years ago and it wasn't terrible in the context of how i imagined i would feel about a macklemore concert
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link
same. saw him in a 1000-cap shithole just before he broke big and he was pretty enjoyable. but i def pass for a Macklepologist around here
― alpine static, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link
he's (among others) headlining Roskilde, orange stage holds up to 70000 people... will maybe seem empty
http://drw5li4pnyc3g.cloudfront.net/2004/rf16-poster-meta-1200x630.png
― niels, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 12:24 (seven years ago) link
tenacious d is still a thing?
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link
lol I read that as Roadkill Festival, which seems about right
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link
Haters gonna hate:
http://www.citypages.com/music/macklemore-at-target-center-an-embarrassing-timeline-8343245
― King Nagl (Eazy), Friday, 10 June 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
this piece is bad
― maura, Friday, 10 June 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link
yea man check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3mC__9qNoA
― flappy bird, Friday, 10 June 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link
xpost
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
holy shit this came out 3 years ago?
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 10 June 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link
ugh this song, fucking die
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link
as the commenter suggests the Lambert line would probably be intended to reflect on her own sexuality, not Macklemore's
― niels, Friday, 6 April 2018 06:22 (six years ago) link
how did you not post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAAMQLb4ZE
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 6 April 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link
two years later:
― just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Friday, 6 April 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUj-65MxhEA
― hoostanbank de reason lyrics mp4 hd video download (unregistered), Friday, 12 July 2019 05:05 (four years ago) link
Ah yes.
https://www.xxlmag.com/news/2019/11/macklemore-magician-magic-rap-album/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 November 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link
wow
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq-NShfefks
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
fred durst runs a magic themed jazz night in LA
white rappers are magic
― ت (jim in vancouver), Monday, 4 November 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link