Loveless: Classic or Not That Classic

the best part is the sample of James MacMillan's Brittania between "What You Want" and "Soon"

Happy twentieth birthday!

Remember Remember the 5th of November.

Gunpowder treason and drone

if you put a comma between those first two you get a Manic's album title.

Anyway, the Japanese tribute album Yellow Loveless is out. And yeah I already had things to say about Boris's 'Sometimes.'

after reading this and the Joy Division: Classic or Dud thread, I think this board is not for me.

Japancakes cover album is brilliant. It really illuminates the structure of the music

whenever someone says "I prefer other Shoegaze" I just have to shake my head. Loveless is no more shoegaze than Pet Sounds is doo wop. it transcends the genre and attains a completely unique status. it's a work of art, you know. I just feel the need to draw a distinction between a "band" who plays "shoegaze rock" and My Bloody Valentine, which is a carefully considered and labored "work of art"

do jo swells

I write that fully aware of those lurking bastards who will come out of the dark for a quick jab at the newcomer: "look at this clown calling something a 'work of art.' how pretentious!" I don't care, I stand by it, the signification and all that bullshit that comes creeping out of the word "art" - thought, weighed, considered, constructed. work. solidified. elevated. I don't even know what I'm saying.

I can always profess my love for Loveless. it's a mystifying piece of music. sure, there are other "spiritual" albums that can take you to a different plane of consciousness or dream reality. I know that, it's just that Loveless, beyond that aspect, also performs on many other levels. it's a great pop record, it's a marvelous production, it's a drone album, it's experimental (Rhys Chatham style drone), it's inspired by Indian mantras and Buddhist cosmic realms (in my opinion). It's noisier than Brainbombs or Swans. It's louder and more abstract and furious than some free jazz. All while being delicate, loving, and soft. Open, composed. I mean, Slowdive and all those bands totally miss that aspect. And it's not surprising.

As much as we want music to all just be "rock" and "bands," I don't think it should instantly be considered "pretentious" to say some things are a little more meaningful (to us as individuals, at least). For me, Ride wrote some pretty beautiful music. But musically, the drone aspects and chord changes of MBV, and the production, turn it into a unique artifact that will never, ever be replicated. It's the sound of the stars, or something. Maybe I am an idiot, well, actually I am, we all are. I just feel this way.

I write that fully aware of those lurking bastards who will come out of the dark for a quick jab at the newcomer: "look at this clown calling something a 'work of art.' how pretentious!" I don't care, I stand by it

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d8/Tianasquare.jpg/300px-Tianasquare.jpg

it's okay to love music bro

Yellow Loveless (full LP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbf8h3sykiw

I always liked "Isn't Anything" better. I thought I was alone.
Thanks, ILX, for being the support group I need in trying times.

That's a great cover of When You Sleep.

WATER TOWER FRONT MAN, KENNY FEINSTEIN RELEASES DEBUT SOLO ALBUM, LOVELESS: HURTS TO LOVE, A RE-MAKE OF THE CLASSIC MY BLOODY VALENTINE ALBUM, LOVELESS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sfGEXhvY-8

Front man for Portland, Oregon-based roots-bluegrass-punk outfit, Water Tower, Kenny Feinstein will release his debut solo album, Loveless: Hurts To Love, a tribute to My Bloody Valentine, on Portland, Oregon-based Fluff & Gravy Records September 17, 2013. The record, which contains all eleven tracks from the My Bloody Valentine classic, plus the track "Swallow" from their 1991 Tremolo EP, released nine months prior to Loveless on Creation Records, finds Feinstein paying homage to his favorite record, while not just covering it, but re-creating it with acoustic guitar, mandolin, dobro, fiddle, and dulcimer.

This sounds horrible! Fuck that dude.

And it should be noted that Japancakes got there first

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UTOQPG

the two songs I've played so far sound like someone fundamentally misunderstanding This Mortal Coil

don't cover me, dobro

Jesus that is comically bad. If it's a pisstake, hats off indeed.

http://blurtonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Kenny-Feinstein.jpg

listened to this album recently... it kinda doesn't hold up. sounds bad now. i remember when it sounded good to me.

actually it's good

I really love the 30-second whale song thing, "To Here Knows When", and "Blown a Wish". I wish the rest of the album sounded like those songs but they all try to rock too hard. I like my shoegazer music to be more slow and druggy, that's why I prefer Slowdive to MBV myself.

i am starting to like mbv almost as much as loveless. "in another way" is better than anything off loveless.

http://devonrecordclub.com/2015/01/16/my-bloody-valentine-loveless-round-77-nicks-choice/

i am starting to like mbv almost as much as loveless. "in another way" is better than anything off loveless.
the 1st sentence is otm. but then i'd say "only tomorrow" is the best song they have ever done.

Classic, of course.

What never seems to get mentioned about Loveless is that the songs themselves are actually incredibly well-written.

wouldnt go that far. sometimes theyre just written well enough (thinking of "come in alone" here, probably my least favorite track on the album and where the album loses momentum for me).

(love this album to death, but that song doesnt hold up well just on its own)

happy birthday!

Where were YOU 25 years ago?

In some pub in Luxembourg. Probably the English Pub in the Grund. When Glider came out the year before, they often played "Soon" in the Blitz in the centre. People were dancing on the window sills.

Did I get "Bandwagonesque" that same day? I think I did... Good day, that.

Bought the cassette at Rebel Rebel (RIP) on Bleecker St., NYC. Drove around with a friend blasting it. Thought my tape was warped lol.

i discovered this mid-late-90s on allmusic and bought it the same day at Media Play. that album cover is just too cool to pass up.

still holds up imo, and i have yet to hear a shoegaze record this good and this surprising. MBV comes really really close though...

One of the absolute best albums.

Drums still sound like shit. I could tell they were triggered/sample-replaced and probably spliced up to the point you're not really hearing a human performance even before I read something that confirmed my suspicions

Team Isn't Anything.

dunno why anyone would put on MBV and expect to hear Parquet Courts

I stopped by HMV on the way to work where I played the CD several times on a new-fangled device we were testing called a CD-ROM drive.

<3 this album so much. very important to me

Bought it at Kim's Underground. Brought it home. Wondered what all the fuss was about. Still do. Nice album, shouldn't have changed the world. I'm pretty sure I bought a few other CDs that day that I liked better.

classic

Inoffensive but just a bit shit, really.

Ok, yeah, Trompe Le Monde, Laughing Stock, Bandwagonesque, Yourself Is Steam, She Hangs Brightly, Perfect Sound Forever, Sebadoh III, White Light From The Mouth of Infinity, Distant Plastic Trees, Real Ramona, Eye (from the year before), Blake Babies (from the year before) all seemed more important at the time. And. Still. Do.

i was in the midst of battling a crippling depression and this record was like a warm cozy blanket i could retreat to. it's still amazing how they managed to make a wall of freaky guitars sound so welcoming.

beautiful guitar sounds

compositions themselves are a little lacking

a few good tracks

7/10 for effort

saying the drums suck on this or these songs actually aren't very good songs seems like entirely missing the point.