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(i thought there was only 3 places for the uefa?)

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:55 (nineteen years ago) link

eek, not the Apple tree any more, it's changed, and not at all for the better.

hmmm, we need to think on this

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes! One UEFA Cup place for fifth place, one for Milwall, one for Middlesbrough.

Now, let's talk about something else. Like naked girls dripped in beeswax.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:58 (nineteen years ago) link

or the play-offs?

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 10:59 (nineteen years ago) link

sun-der-land! sun-der-land!

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm hoping aldershot go up just so there are less than 10 teams in the conference within an hour of london (also aldershot is a HOLE)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Aldershot is all too shot

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Terry Scott used to go.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link

There is a thread for the playoffs somewhere.

Yes, three Yoofa Cup places - only two national associations get four and I'm guessing that's Italy and Spain currently. There's always sneaking in the back door via the Intertoto (no English clubs this year?) or the Fair Play assessment.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Sunderland, my spotty botty. C'mon you Irons.

No applications from English clubs for intertoto places this year. Not sure if UEFA's fair place nonsense will include English clubs though.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:15 (nineteen years ago) link

that was how man city got in this year wasn't it?

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm hoping to see the claret and blue boys get to the playoff final and then lose. Footage of fans crying always makes me smile, and its going to hurt twice as hard with West Ham.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link

BBC says Robinson to Spurs. I'm sure there's a thread for this, but still.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link

transfer news and speculation

Best thread ever.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I admire Mike's lemon bitterness.

A thought which struck me is: I wonder how he would feel, about this season, if he did not like Arsenal.

― the bluefox, Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Curiously it's been a bad season for every club in the Premiership except for Portsmouth, Middlesbro and I suppose the Gooners

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Steve, that's possibly the wisest thing you've ever said.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

And Villa.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

That's very harsh on Steve.

And Birmingham.

― the bluefox, Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

How a good season for Boro?

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Won cup. In Europe.

...and Bolton. They're best ever Premiership season and a cup final.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess, they'd want to be really, the amount of blown money over the last few years.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

They have to pay more because no-one want to live there.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you putting on a Johnny Foreigner voice when you say that?

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

it's not that harsh on steve, I read the post and almost out loud said "of course, that's why this may have been the worst premiership season so far"

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, id add in bolton and villa also. but, thinking of expectations, what about fulham? tipped to go down, so surely their season is a huge success? but then, earlier this season they looked able to palce higher than they did

for many teams, it seems a curious season

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link

man city? top in September, wooden spoon in May - very curious, or maybe not considering they have Kelvin Koogan at the helm

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link

late flourishes from Villa and Bolton, surprising most if not all of us. Granted their positions surpass their ambitions for this season I suspect. Fulham, Southampton and Birmingham will also be content. I should have phrased it 'it's not been a GOOD season for anyone but the three originally mentioned', merely adequate (Charlton - because they fell at the last hurdles but can still be proud), disappointing (Spurs, Blackburn, Everton etc.) or downright disastrous (Leeds)

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Err - Chelsea??

Champions League semi-final and second in the league, surpassing Man U? Given that they were 10-1 for the title even after Abramovich had taken over and bought half the world, I'd say this was a good season.

I am coming to the conclusion that it is the stupidest thing stevem has ever said.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

look, they won NOTHING

― Bigotron (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

he did say outside the top three N.

And hasn't Peter Kenyon (who is an absolute prat) declared Chelsea's season a failure?

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

If I was a Charlton fan I would feel crushingly disappointed with the second half of this season. With Scott Parker playing they could've been in the Champions League or at least the UEFA by now. Of course, he was "unsettled" - there's a pretty compelling argument for keeping rival agents away from players altogether under bane of a hefty fine.

I don't understand all these Chelsea fans and board members crying about it. It's not like they aren't going to be winning trophies and in the Champions League next season and every season until Abramovich decides its safe to pull all his dodgy money out of the UK.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh right - sorry. He should surely have said outside the top two, then?

Ha - Bigot Ron was good enough, but Bigotron takes it to another level.

Peter Kenyon is to be disregarded. It was only a disappointment because they came so close.

I heard the other day that Abramovich had no expectations of winning anything in the first season anyway.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

If I spent £110m on a football club (it's unlikely, yeah) I'd want trophies and if I didn't get them I would gun people down. I'd get away with it because of my wad.

So, out of all the Premiership clubs, which is the one that had the most average season (didn't exceed expectations or disappoint). Southampton?

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link

definitely, have you seen their record? goal difference = 0, something like won 12 drawn 11 and lost 14

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link

there's no guarantee Chelsea will win anything next season either. It's been a very disappointing season for Manchester Utd, more than Chelsea - the nature of their Champions League exit really being the wet blanket over the fire of the Highbury victory.

Southampton beat Man Utd (it seemed impressive at the time at least) and Liverpool twice - a good season for them but nothing to really show for it.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

It was Claudio who said Chelsea wouldn't win anything this season. I mean, Abramovich might have said it too,But Claudio said it on Football Focus.

I think you've got to hand it to Birmingham City really.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Birmingham have done remarkably well when you consider they're run by, you know, a lady.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I deleted that very point before posting so that I look like a New Man.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I am referring to Steve Bruce of course.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Steve Bruce is no lady, have you seen her table manners? shocking.

I would big up Birmingham more, if I didn't really dislike Brucey

― chris (chris), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:11 (nineteen years ago) link

can't remember which match it was, but you could clearly hear the opposing fans chanting:

FAT GEORDIE BASTARD, HE'S JUST A FAT GEORDIE BASTARD

at mrs bruce, which made me chuckle...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Birmingham are a staggeringly boring team to watch, Forssell or no Forssell. Quite how he manages to score so often given how few chances his team create is amazing.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:17 (nineteen years ago) link

the best thing is we know that's to the tune of 'Guantanamera' (sp.) without you saying

(x-post)

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i was going to put "to guantanemera" but thought it was so obvious :)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:20 (nineteen years ago) link

PJ, I didn't see Football Focus with Claudio. This was one of 5Live's correspondents reporting what Abramovich had said to someone. That he knew that you couldn't win a championship with a team that had just been thrown together, and that Ranieri was just there in a holding role till he could get the manager he wanted to win it for him in the second season. So if they don't win next year, then yes, disappointment.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Birmingham provided my favourite moment of the season when David Dunn tried one of those kick behind the other leg showboats and fell over. That's up there with the Newcastle free kick from a few years back when they all ran off and forgot about the ball.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link

and, of course, matt mattias (sp?) flooring robbie savage...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Robbie Savage is a cunt. I fucking hate that cunt Robbie Savage.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Ray Mathias? but yes that was very funny, especially as that dumb sack of dung got up looking to retaliate.

― chris (chris), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:45 (nineteen years ago) link

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