Rush: Classic or Dud?

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akm, you should absolutely go. I've seen them many times starting with the Roll the Bones tour and can honestly say that their live show just keeps getting better and better in every way: song selection, sound quality, musicianship, overall spectacle.

Moodles, Thursday, 4 October 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

I'm looking forward to your review, haven't checked it out yet.

So I gotta go with a "meh" on the Clockwork Angels novel. It does help get a better understanding of the album and the lyrics, a lot of the lyrics I was unsure about snapped into place, but as a sci-fi novel its pretty bland. The story is your fairly standard "lonely boy thinkin' baout things goes on a journey" trope and it unfolds fairly predictably (though a couple plot twists near the end spiced it up a tad). The "moral" of the whole thing is pretty hamhanded, but kinda par for the course for Rush I guess. There are a lot of sly references to other Rush albums and lyrics sprinkled throughout, so kind of a bonus for Rush nerds. Thing is, it just doesn't hold up as a good sci-fi novel.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

The art looks pretty cool though.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

Is there any greater several minutes of Lifeson than the middle section of "La Villa Strangiato"?

Clarke B., Sunday, 7 October 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

No-that song is a work of genius

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Sunday, 7 October 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

I can't stop listening to it

Clarke B., Sunday, 7 October 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

Hemispheres I just picked up the other day; it was the only record (besides the debut) of theirs up through Presto I didn't have on vinyl, and I've really enjoyed just happily grabbing their stuff when I've found it used rather than rabidly seeking it out. I can easily see this record being the one that pushes me from solid fan into crazed fanboy, though. Something about it clicked with me immediately in a way none of their others did; maybe I'm used enough to their sound, their playing, their themes to where I just heard this one in a more "pure" way. It made me go back to A Farewell to Kings, too, which I feel like I heard with new ears...

Clarke B., Sunday, 7 October 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

aerosmith band outing to the Rush show on our night off in Philly tonight, fuck yes

lucky

Moodles, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

Rush's live medleys are some of my favorite concert experiences ever (I mean the whole shows have been great, but the medleys are like all-time live highlights)

grandavis, Friday, 12 October 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

what Moodles said

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

So sorry I missed this leg. Stupid camping trip ...

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 October 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

So I gotta go with a "meh" on the Clockwork Angels novel.

me too. it's way too young adult. i wanted something more steampunk/clockwork orangey, the way it's been billed. i'm only halfway through, but the interminable kid running away and joining the circus episode would be more fitting for a novelization of brain salad surgery ("karn evil 9") than it is for clockwork angels. still, i love the fact that they did this, and there's no way i wouldn't read a novelization of a rush album, even if the world's worst writer wrote it

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 October 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah, which is exactly why i bought it! but its really not that great.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 October 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

why do I keep avoiding and then giving into this thread?

re: Hemispheres and Farewell to Kings above -- these were my favorite records by the band back when I would consider myself a big fan (mostly high school really). In retrospect, along w/2112, they are far and away their proggiest records, which is probably what I was latching onto. I think I even read (or was it in doc?) Alex Lifeson saying that after Hemisphere, they never wanted to make another record like that -- and then came Permanent Waves, which backs him up.

Still think "Xanadu", "la Villa Strangiato", "Cygnus X-1" among the best stuff they ever did.

Dominique, Friday, 12 October 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

hemispheres is by far my favorite of their albums. it's too bad prog has such a bad rep because people are really missing out. the sidelong suite is a major highlight for me in all their stuff

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 October 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah,.I'm amazed Rush still gets pegged a prog act. It's been decades since they fully embodied the traits people associate with the term. I think the band wanted to move on for the same reason Metallica did. Songs got too long.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 October 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link

aero going to see Rush after complaining about them on the Rush/Dead/Yes thread??

Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

That's the thing about Rush: complain all you want, but when someone gives you tickets, any sensible person says "yes."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 October 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

rush peg themselves a prog act. they just released a concept album with a novel tie-in. that's pretty proggy!

geddy lee's favorite album list is pretty telling

http://thequietus.com/articles/09210-rush-geddy-lee-interview-favourite-albums

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

they don't call themselves a progressive band. but yes, the new 1 is a throwback. also, the band first concept album.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 October 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link

Circumstances is such a jam

rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 October 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 12 October 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

I might be interviewing Alex Lifeson next Saturday. Not confirmed yet. Definitely going to the show (Newark, NJ) though.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 13 October 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link

Lifeson seems like such a chill interview. You should ask him about the lightbulb moment that lead to his shift from flashier lead stuff to more subtle shading and Andy Summers-y stuff. Also, Rush may be the most mysterious songwriters outside of New Order; I'm just not sure how their tracks come together, and they're one of the very few bands that has not left behind a trail of demos. Ask him how songs with so many different parts come together as cohesive 5-minute compositions. I've always thought sprawling 3o-minute prog epics were, ironically, sort of easy, because there's the luxury of time and space. But Rush's stuff, busy though it may get, has always been remarkably efficient.

Man, "La Villa Strangiato" really is some sort of apotheosis, isn't it?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 October 2012 02:22 (eleven years ago) link

aero going to see Rush after complaining about them on the Rush/Dead/Yes thread??

lol I think I just said Peart's philosophy was gross which I got corrected on. show was really something, really fun

That's the thing about Rush: complain all you want, but when someone gives you tickets, any sensible person says "yes."

lol I paid for these seats myself!!

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 13 October 2012 03:04 (eleven years ago) link

music should be like business. efficient. how dare bands "waste" notes!

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 13 October 2012 03:23 (eleven years ago) link

Glad you got your money's worth aero! :D

Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 15 October 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

Aero, did they do a medley? Haven't seen Rush in a number of years and am just curious if they still do this.

grandavis, Monday, 15 October 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

Ticket for Rush on Saturday night in Newark, NJ: CONFIRMED. Request for interview with Alex Lifeson: still pending...

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

cool!

rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

This really was one of the best shows I've seen in a long time. Bit of a dream setlist really.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

More haikus!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 19 October 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link

music should be like
business. efficient. how dare
bands waste any notes!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 19 October 2012 02:40 (eleven years ago) link

The voice is the gate
To keep out smarmy hipsters
Like Stephen Malkmus

Clarke B., Friday, 19 October 2012 03:01 (eleven years ago) link

By efficient I
Meant that the band fits so much
Into so little

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 October 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link

i am bummed clockwork
angels the novel doesn't
rule like the album

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 19 October 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link

What if Geddy Lee
played drums and Neil Peart sang lead?
(Alex is Alex.)

a worthy pioner! (weatheringdaleson), Friday, 19 October 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link

Saw them last night in Newark. Amazing set - tons of mid-80s material, nine songs from the new album (everyone at work is fucking thrilled about that)...the one thing that was hugely apparent to me is that Peart continues to evolve as a drummer - his playing is much looser and more human-feeling than it was in 2011, and he wasn't wearing the huge gun-range headphones he did that time, so I feel like he was definitely listening to and playing off the other two much more than in the recent past. Also, rather than take one epic solo mid-set he took three shorter solos at various points, and that really kept the show moving with much greater momentum and overall energy. And between what he was doing, and the addition of the string players (who mostly added surges in the background), it was really intensely rhythmic, all about driving forward at all times. The version of "YYZ" at the end of the second set almost sounded like metal. (And by the way, it is sort of more than a little impressive that one of Rush's most beloved live moments is an extended, berserk instrumental.) When Lifeson stepped forward for HIS solos, that was when the songs really came to a frozen halt for a minute or so.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 21 October 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

Possibly because as awesome as he is, guitar heroes are generally more dime a dozen than bass heroes or drum heroes. I've said before that one of the funniest things about Rush concerts is watching fans frantically air drum, air guitar and air bass at the same time.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 October 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

Wanna see my photos from Saturday night's show? Here you go.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 22 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

won't load :(

terrell sug (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 October 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

The website was going in and out this afternoon, but it should be fine now.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

Great photos! And I'm glad you dug the new show.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link

Amazing set - tons of mid-80s material

I'm seeing the show in both Dallas and Atlanta. This does not bode well.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

I don't know if everyone already picked up the three Sector boxes (I didn't have the funds), but they're all on sale this week for $25.49 each via the Amazon Cyber Monday deals week. Sector 1 tomorrow morning, and Sectors 2 & 3 on Saturday. Crazy cheap.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link

I have 1 and 3, so thanks for the tip!

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link

I plan on getting all three. At $5 a disc you can't beat it.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:07 (eleven years ago) link

Is this worth getting if you have the original CDs? Is there a substantial difference?

Moodles, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

My understanding is yes, but hopefully Adrien or someone who owns them can confirm.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 04:06 (eleven years ago) link


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