From the Obama entry:
"He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of affirmative action."
― Charlie Rose Nylund, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative&diff=prev&oldid=611260
daily mail: not conservative
― and what, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Do all their entries read like book reports written by 4th graders with wingnut parent?
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Gardasil&diff=next&oldid=609636
rape: less likely than being struck & killed by lightning
― and what, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm basically giving up on talking to conservatives about anything ever again based on the reactions to some i know about obama's arab tv interview, mostly thanks to comments along the lines of "these people can't be reasoned with, he's one of them, see he admits it" etc
― pwner's manual (omar little), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Essay:Differences Between Homeschoolers and Public SchoolersFrom ConservapediaJump to: navigation, search
There are some fundamental differences of significance between homeschoolers and public schoolers:
1. Homeschoolers are consistently more proficient in mathematics, science, writing, and language.[1] 2. Homeschoolers do not stop learning upon receipt of a diploma; most public schoolers do not try to learn outside of school 3. Homeschoolers vote at three times the rate of public schoolers, when they become of voting age 4. Homeschoolers engage in less deceit than public schoolers, and are less easily amused by it 5. Homeschoolers form fewer cliques and gangs than public schoolers 6. Homeschoolers are less amused by profanity, and rarely have the compulsive profanity common to public schoolers 7. Homeschoolers are more able to be self-employed or self-disciplined without requiring constant supervision. 8. Homeschoolers are more likely to embrace faith and have a close relationship with God. 9. Homeschoolers pray more often than students in public school, where prayer is censored. 10. Homeschoolers perform better on average on all standardized test that are not infested with liberal bias (and even some that are) 11. Homeschoolers attain higher literacy rates and reading competence, due to an absence of anti-intellectual peer pressure.[2] 12. Homeschoolers have much lower teen pregnancy rates, and abortion is almost unknown among homeschoolers.
― and what, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Do they ever cite any sources when making these claims?
― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link
[1]
[2]
― and what, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link
1. ↑ Dr. Brian Ray, A Nationwide Study of Home Education: Family Characteristics, Legal Matters, and Student Achievement, National Home Education Research Institute, Seattle, WA, 1990, p. 53-54. 2. ↑ Dr. Brian Ray, A Nationwide Study of Home Education: Family Characteristics, Legal Matters, and Student Achievement, National Home Education Research Institute, Seattle, WA, 1990, p. 53-54.
― and what, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link
1990
― MIRV Griffin (goole), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link
OMG these people are fuckin' deluded.
― Choom Gang Gang Dance (suzy), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link
12. Homeschoolers have much lower teen pregnancy rates, and abortion is almost unknown among homeschoolers.
aint the only thing unknown by homeschoolers amirite
― and what, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.nheri.org/
The National Home Education Research Institute's mission is to:
* Produce high-quality research (e.g., statistics, facts, findings) on home-based education (homeschooling). * Serve as a clearinghouse of research for the public, researchers, homeschoolers, the media, and policy makers. * Educate the public concerning the findings of all research on home education.
― kingfish, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
my gf wants to homeschool eventual kids and it terrifies me
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
5. Homeschoolers form fewer cliques and gangs than public schoolers
man the gangs h/s'ers DO get around to forming must be seriously rugged
― MIRV Griffin (goole), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
hoos that's a 'troubling indicator' i believe
It would flummox me to spend ALL DAY EVERY DAY with kids and even if they were mine, that would probably apply. School is not just an education and social skills, it's at least eight hours where children cannot make a mess/break shit in the home and you pay for it in taxes already so just go, OK?
― Choom Gang Gang Dance (suzy), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.conservapedia.com/images/5/59/Atheism.png
― and what, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link
otm
― MIRV Griffin (goole), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
hahahaha this is awesome, the only home-schooled kid I ever knew really well was raised a totally lefty hippie who didn't celebrate christmas *and* was a complete horndog and got with plenty of teh girlz
― I ♥ my dog, I ♠ my cat (dan m), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Whereas the chance of being killed by a terrorist is, like, 1 in 3, right, Schlafly?
― Pancakes Hussein Obama (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link
4. Homeschoolers engage in less deceit than public schoolers, and are less easily amused by it
There's a whole lot of something behind this sentence.
― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Genesis 19:4-8But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Reading the Conservapedia entry on Wikipedia is one thing.
Reading the Wikipedia entry on Conservapedia is wau lulz
― Ashee Bolanalli (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link
wau lulz @
On June 9, 2008, New Scientist published an article describing Richard Lenski's 20-year E. coli experiment, which observed that bacteria evolve the ability to metabolize citrate – a rare and complex mutation. Schlafly contacted Lenski to request the data. Lenski explained that the relevant data was in the paper and that Schlafly fundamentally misunderstood it. Schlafly wrote again and requested the raw data. Lenski replied again that the relevant data was already in the paper, that the "raw data" were living bacterial samples, which he would willingly share with qualified researchers at properly equipped biology labs, and that he felt insulted by letters and comments on Conservapedia, which he saw as brusque and offensive, including claims of outright deceit. The exchange, recorded on a Conservapedia page called "Lenski dialog", was widely reported on news-aggregating sites and weblogs. Carl Zimmer wrote that it was readily apparent that "Schlafly had not bothered to read [Lenski's paper] closely", and PZ Myers criticized Schlafly for demanding data despite not having a plan to use it nor the expertise to analyze it.
― I ♥ my dog, I ♠ my cat (dan m), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
the full dialog is still online: Conservapedia - An encyclopedia you can trust
― StanM, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link
(oops, that's a link to a post in this very thread that contains a link to the Lenski Dialog page)
― StanM, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link
I see that Schlafly is a homeschool tutor himself. Now, that is frightening.
― The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
I like to think of him as the science experiment gone wrong.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
bbbbbut he's a B.S.E!
― I ♥ my dog, I ♠ my cat (dan m), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
"Wikipedia does not poll the views of its editors and administrators. They make no effort to retain balance. It ends up having all the neutrality of a lynch mob."
stay classy Conservapedia founder Andrew Schlafly
― Michael S. Jackson (rent), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Sadly, I initially read this as 'butt sex experiment.' I fear I am not ashamed.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link
"bovine spongiform encepalopathy" also applies
― I ♥ my dog, I ♠ my cat (dan m), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
xxxxxxxp people who still claim atheism is a belief are so fucking deluded/disingenuous
― torn between two borads, feelin' like a stan (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 29 January 2009 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Well it kind of is in the "I believe in nothing" sense, I guess.
― Trayce, Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link
More 'I don't believe in anything' than 'I believe in nothing' though.
― torn between two borads, feelin' like a stan (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link
"No, Donny, these are nihilists; there's nothing to be afraid of."
― kingfish, Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:58 (fifteen years ago) link
An atheist believes that there is no god.An agnostic claims not to have beliefs.
― Badder Meinhof Syndrome (libcrypt), Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:59 (fifteen years ago) link
that's not true. non-belief is not a belief. agnostics generally believe that some things are unknowable, which is a belief.
― Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft Phil Collins (jim), Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link
a-theism as in no theism
― torn between two borads, feelin' like a stan (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link
weak vs strong atheism, innit.
― yungblut, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:17 (fifteen years ago) link
lets have this argument again, good call
― max, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link
OUR BEAUTIFUL CONSERVAPEDIA THREAD LOOK WHAT YOUVE DONE
― kingfish, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link
max IOU 1 lol
― J0hn D., Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link
THEY STARTED IT
― Trayce, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:37 (fifteen years ago) link
just hang out with your mother all day instead.
― schlump, Thursday, 29 January 2009 03:45 (fifteen years ago) link
For college, Obama initially attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, California, before transferring to Columbia University in New York, New York and graduating without honors with a Bachelor of Arts degree, majoring in political science.
This is my favorite part.
― the maximum value that ZS obtains given its constraint is 8 (Z S), Thursday, 29 January 2009 04:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Although evolutionists deny that men and dinosaurs coexisted, they are unable to provide proof of such a hypothesis. It is probable that the 'behemoth' was what we now call a dinosaur.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 29 January 2009 07:13 (fifteen years ago) link
calling that a hypothesis is truly hilarious.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 29 January 2009 07:14 (fifteen years ago) link
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/files/2007/jesus_dinosaur.jpg
― cupcakes off the shoulder of orion (latebloomer), Thursday, 29 January 2009 07:15 (fifteen years ago) link