The Miracle of the Smiths

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no mike joyce no creditbility

gesange der yuengling (crüt), Monday, 1 October 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

54321 til morrissey denies all this?

tylerw, Monday, 1 October 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

really hope they don't do it

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 October 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

I hope not either. I don't like the idea of reunions, especially this one because it is solely motivated by money.

controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Monday, 1 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

feel like if morrissey was actually desperate for $$$$ he'd do a "morrissey sings the smiths" tour w/o any of them before he'd do a reunion. could be wrong!

tylerw, Monday, 1 October 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

funny that it is like the holy grail of reunions. is anyone offering a bazillion dollars to talking heads to reunite?

tylerw, Monday, 1 October 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

i don't see how morrissey could possibly be hurting for money though?

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 October 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

if the smiths reunite i would sell my firstborn child to go see the show. not even joking

heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

xp i dunno, maybe he invested heavy in some really sketchy vegan smoothie stands and lost it all?

tylerw, Monday, 1 October 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link

"leafy, succulents and gruel"

goole, Monday, 1 October 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

(i got the quote wrong! shit)

goole, Monday, 1 October 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

There's been so much animosity on all sides I don't really see a good reason for them to reunite aside from money. Morrissey & Marr had always been vehement against the idea of a reunion until now. I could be wrong, but I don't understand the sudden change of heart.

controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Monday, 1 October 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

The Stone Roses were at each other's throats for years prior so i guess it could mean they could still.. forgive and forget.
although finding it hard to imagine a Smiths-y equivalent of this photo

http://static.nme.com/images/gallery/StoneRoses02PR181011.jpg

piscesx, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

Isn't/Wasn't the Roses tour kind of a clusterfuck, though?

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

After a reunion by The Police, I'm not ruling anything out. However, I don't see what possible good could come of a Smiths reunion either for the band themselves or the fans.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

something about the smiths still feels special because they never did a reunion. i'd hate for them to muck up the purity of their brief almost-perfect career just because morrissey and marr decide they can tolerate each other long enough to make a few extra bucks.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

I wouldn't want them to reunite because the last thing they did before they broke up sucks super hard and directly informed the direction Morrissey went with his solo career; no one wants to here Strangeways-ified versions of TQID songs

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

mm i'd wager Pink Floyd doing it means anyone can, although Moz's "The Smiths will end in murder" soundbite from around the mid 00's always kinda raised the bar for hateful
'it won't happen' band quotes.

interestingly the final time Joyce and Rourke played with Moz (at the one-off Wolves Civic Hall gig in 88) they were suing him *already*.

piscesx, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

'strangeways' is amazing! their second-best after 'TQID.'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

no it isnt

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

Hasn't Marr been getting less and less interesting since the first electronic album though? I'd be more worried about them thrashing through stuff that was never meant to be thrashed; turning every song into 'London'.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, nothing I've heard by Marr post-Smiths even resembles Smiths-era Marr. Even if he just got up there and accompanied Morrissey Boz Boorer-style, it wouldn't be as good as Boz.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

actually if they "London"-ified everything I'd be interested but I assume they'd actually "Girlfriend In A Coma"-fy everything

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

Boz Boorer has the best name

Ismael Klata, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

i'll never understand ppl hating on strageways. it's good!

goole, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

I was about to say I feel like I've been arguing with DJP for 10 years about the merits of Strangeways, but then I remembered that's because I have.

Alba, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

strangeways is incredible wtffff also admittedly it's my least favorite smiths record. still a classic tho

heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

Oh jeez, what if they write some new stuff?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 1 October 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

lol Alba

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

i don't consider it the smiths w/o rourke, his bass playing was crucial to the band!!

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

I hope they reunite to play "Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others" then promptly leave the stage.

i'd say that 'girlfriend in a coma' is one of their best singles but i fear the inevitable 'no it isnt' response

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

hating Strangeways is maybe DJPs most befuddling opinion, at least for me

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe they'll get Flea to dep?

Pat Ast vs Jean Arp (MaresNest), Monday, 1 October 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

lord probably just pisses me off...a band is a band!

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 October 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

Why would it 'not be Rourke'?

I can understand why it might 'not be Joyce'...

Anyways, at some point they are going to get so bored with denying rumours that they will stop doing it, then it'll be all 'ooh it's imminent' sigh..

Mark G, Monday, 1 October 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

hope this doesn't happen.

also rourke and joyce are one of the best ever rock rhythm sections and it would be megashit if they weren't both involved.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 1 October 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

hating Strangeways "Domino Dancing" is maybe DJPs most befuddling opinion, at least for me

Hasn't Marr been getting less and less interesting since the first electronic album though

you mad, Dusk was after Electronic

Of course this is a terrible idea though

┐(´ー`)┌ (sic), Monday, 1 October 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

the ways of DJP are strange

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 1 October 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

?? dan loves domino dancing! he always says its the piper at the gates of dawn of the pet shop boys

farte blanche (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 October 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link

The problem isn't so much that they'll thrash through songs or Strangeways-ify them so much as they will play them exactly as they were. As a young Smiths fanatic, I heard enough bootlegs to know that the bootlegs weren't worth hearing: the songs were played professionally and identically every time, wherever they were (the only variation came with the freedom Marr got with the inclusion of Craig Gannon, who I guess will not be invited). That said, this would be the only reunion I'd pay to see (while knowing I was getting fleeced).

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 1 October 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link

i was wondering why the Smiths thread was so busy today. i hope this doesn't happen as i have already seen the Smiths twice before, selfish i know.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link

i really don't care if they do this or not. we already know they're civil enough to plausibly pull the big cash grab, and none are above hawking the smiths songbook when they perform in their own combos. i love a lot of smiths stuff, but not romantically enough that mozz doing "there's a light" at the end of a show with marr would be sadder for me than mozz doing "there's a light" at the end of a show with anyone else. if anything i approve of morrissey not being able to perform new originals between smiths numbers.

da croupier, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 05:14 (eleven years ago) link

Not happening, apparently.

daavid, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 05:20 (eleven years ago) link

breaking news from 1991 there

┐(´ー`)┌ (sic), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 06:01 (eleven years ago) link

it's dated 1-oct-2012 so heyz.

Mark G, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 06:04 (eleven years ago) link

I mean it's been no more likely now than at any time since the court case

┐(´ー`)┌ (sic), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 06:10 (eleven years ago) link

It can't be for the money, La Mozzer has sold out both his Sydney shows in a couple of days. And tickets were over $100!!

Don't Go Home With Your Hadron Collider (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link


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