stephen king c/d?

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Sigh. I'm going to be the voice of slight dissent on 11/22/63. I finally finished it last night and it was okay. I was getting into it at the beginning but then it just draaaaaagged, and the whole plot was "He moves towards his goal... OH NO SETBACK! Will it ruin everything? No of course not. He achieves his goal, with ~consequences~" over and over and over again. Plus the consequences were telegraphed from ten miles away, despite being grown in a lab to be the perfect Stephen King combination of shocking but perfectly appropriate. I also got really tired of the main character calling the supporting woman character "hon" all the time. It just reads in print as weirdly condescending. And you know what? I get it. They have sex and enjoy it! I don't need to hear about every time they fuck.

One of my favorite things about SK books is that they're compulsively readable, but all of the afore mentioned issues made reading this book a chore, which was really sad! Anyway, so last night I was like "fuck it I am FINISHING THIS BOOK" and then I got to this line, which was the literary equivalent of somebody sharting at the dinner table.

MAYBE SLIGHT SPOILER ALERT SO KEEP OUT THIS MEANS YOU!

Main character is on the bus and he is helping a large black woman (who is a maid and says "Lawsy!" btw) to her feet and writing of the difficulty of doing so, King writes, "That was three hundred pounds of female on the hoof." Maybe the only black woman character in the book and he compares her to chattel. Not only is that racist as HELL and fucking offensive if you happen to think, as I unsurprisingly do, that fat women are humans and not animals "on the hoof," but it's insanely uncreative. Wow, you compared a fat woman to a cow. WOW. Is there a chapter about metaphor in On Writing about metaphor? Maybe he should review that one.

OKAY YOU CAN COME BACK NOW SPOILER TIME IS OVER

Despite all that, I didn't hate the book, but it's going on the Tommyknockers side of my SK list rather than the Night Shift side, that's for damn sure.

carl agatha, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

I agree with you.

I thought that 11/22/63 was insanely too detailed. I also hate it when the main characters of books are ridiculously perfect like they are here. It was OK overall because the time travel conceit was cool, but book really should have been less than half the length that it is.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, Jake was a total Mary Sue.

carl agatha, Monday, 1 October 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

A spoileriffic flowchart of connections between King's (non-Dark Tower stuff.

Also, how did I fail to hear that a show based on The Colorado Kid has been airing for several years?

Old Lunch, Monday, 1 October 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah 'Haven'

It's kind of like a weird cross between a supernatural verison of Eureka and American Gothic or something. Not in a good way? I have tried to enjoy it but I alwasy find it kind of boring

on the other hand WWE's Edge is a character now :D

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

"Haven is a supernatural drama television series loosely based on the Stephen King novel The Colorado Kid."

must be pretty loosely, i have to say

set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

"When FBI Special Agent Audrey Parker (Emily Rose) arrives in the small town of Haven, Maine, on a routine case, she soon finds herself increasingly involved in the return of The Troubles, a plague of supernatural afflictions that occurred in the town at least twice before. With an openness to the possibility of the paranormal, she also finds a more personal link in Haven that may lead her to the mother she has never known."

...

set the controls for the heart of the congos (thomp), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Speaking of Different Seasons, that reminds me: I heard about this story from my niece on the weekend. This girl is awesome. Good on her for standing up:

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/10/16/4914560/rocklin-high-student-fights-to.html


Rocklin High student fights to keep Stephen King book in library
By Melody Gutierrez
Published: Tuesday, Oct. 16, 2012 - 12:00 am | Page 2B

Rocklin High School senior Amanda Wong had never read a Stephen King novel until she joined a committee reviewing whether one of his books should be banned from the school's library.

Now, Wong is fighting to ensure "Different Seasons," a collection of King's short stories, remains on the shelves after a parent complained about a graphic rape scene in the short story "Apt Pupil."

"This opens a door to censoring other materials," Wong, 17, said Monday.

Wong was a student representative on a Rocklin High committee that voted to ban "Different Seasons."

Wong was the lone person to vote against banning King's book. She said, at the time of the vote, she was also the only person who had read the entire collection, which includes "Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption," "The Body" and "A Winter's Tale." Three stories were adapted into the movies: "The Shawshank Redemption," "Stand By Me" ("The Body") and "Apt Pupil."

"It's such an important decision; you have to read the entire book," Wong said.

The decision to ban the book came on the heels of the 30th annual Banned Books Week, an effort by the American Library Association, along with publishers, teachers and readers, aimed at "liberating literature."

After the Rocklin High committee voted to ban the book, Wong spoke against the decision at a school district board meeting on Oct. 3. After listening to Wong, Rocklin Unified Superintendent Kevin Brown said he overturned the Rocklin High committee's decision.

"They failed to recognize that there are other high schools in our district, and we need input from all sectors of our district," Brown said.

A districtwide committee will meet today to begin reviewing "Different Seasons." That committee has 30 days to make a decision on whether the book can be offered to high school students.

Brown said in his nearly two decades with the district, Rocklin Unified has never banned a library book or classroom reading material.

"I've read it," Brown said. "I think the book has merit. The committee will be charged with making the final decision."

That decision is being watched by the American Library Association's Office for Intellectual Freedom, said the group's assistant director, Angela Maycock.

"Our office has been keeping track of challenges since the 1980s," Maycock said. "It's something we are very concerned about."

Maycock said the stories contained in "Different Seasons" have been publicly challenged a handful of times since it was released in 1982. King's other work, however, has been routinely challenged, Maycock said.

"When there is public attention drawn to these situations, the outpouring of support for individuals to read and think for themselves is very powerful," she said.

Herbert Foerstel, author of a reference guide of banned books in American schools, called the Rocklin's brief decision to ban King's book "absolutely outrageous."

"If a book is assigned and a student is obliged to read it, at least one could make a religious freedom argument and ask for an alternative book to be assigned," Foerstel said. "But remove a book from a library where reading it is voluntary? No one should allow that under any circumstances."

Wong said she is drafting a letter asking that those on the committee reviewing "Different Seasons" read the stories in their entirety.

"Even if the book gets banned, I hope that the process is more carefully done and more public," Wong said. "My biggest concern is that issues like this aren't transparent."

Wong said she recently checked the Rocklin High library shelves for "Different Seasons."

"Someone checked it out," she said

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link

I'm still aghast that that stupid committe would try to remove the book from the LIBRARY. Assholes.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

Kinda surprised it's in a HS library at all, tbh.

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

Really? All the Stephen Kings were in my high school library.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

I guess I really can't generalize HS library standards based on my own HS library. I had to smuggle all of my King in.

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

Although I guess I did the bulk of my King reading in late elementary through jr. high. Pretty sure administrators would frown on a 7th-grader reading Rage in the back of the classroom in this day and age.

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

my first SK was Skeleton Crew, I think I was 11 when I read it, so 7th grade. The library teacher was like, 'make sure your parents know you're reading this' and tried to convince me to read something else, bless his heart.

Eventually he stopped raising his eyebrow at me, lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link

wait 12 not 11

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

P.S. I am now two weeks and change into (re-)reading King's stuff from the beginning. I'm about 20% of the way through The Stand (complete and uncut) now. And my interest isn't flagging at all. Yet. Brief notes:

Carrie was pretty faithfully adapted until the end of the book, when things went a little more bugshit. 'Salem's Lot might be my new go-to recommendation for newbies. Nicely creepy and interestingly-paced (the 'v' word isn't mentioned until halfway through). I'd never read The Shining before and was kinda surprised at how different it is from the film. I mean, they're the same basic story in broad strokes, but the novel is more about the trauma of externalized psychological damage. It's probably okay that King has let Rage go out of print. It's actually not all that good. Night Shift, still as great as ever. Surprising to realize what a debt King owes to Lovecraft (now that I've read Lovecraft). I appreciated some of the more subdued stories much more than I did as a kid (and realize now just how much of King's stuff went completely over my head at the time).

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link

Night Shift is the bomb. That has the one with the guy's dad who's the beer-slug-thing in the basement, right? Grey Matter?

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

I love Salem's Lot. Also Dead Zone was another favorite upon rereading later in life.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, "Grey Matter"! I really think I must've re-read Night Shift ten times or more over the years because most of those stories seem permanently lodged in my memory. This is at least the 3rd time I've read The Stand.

I'm looking forward to The Dead Zone. It was the first one I read (in fifth grade) and I haven't read it since.

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

Just recently found this (from when I was prolly in like 6th grade and drawing comics of pretty much everything):

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8326/8095308885_93139cd1d1_c.jpg

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

awesome

Number None, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

that is sssssoooooooooo great!

I love it!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

The Mangler! Yes!

sorcery is in the gutter (how's life), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link

Omg

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

omg my 12-year-old self is so feeling that drawing right now

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link

At least six of those doodles made into movies.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 03:31 (eleven years ago) link

Also featured in the same notebook: a much less faithful It illustration, a poem entitled 'What Is Peace?', a comic adaptation of the first five minutes of UHF, several drawings of In Living Color sketches, and the lyrics to half of the songs on the Sir Mix-A-Lot album Swass.

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:33 (eleven years ago) link

oh man, if you have a "men on film" comic, plz share

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 04:44 (eleven years ago) link

I'm actually 99% sure that I do (I drew a lot of one-panel gags based on In Living Color and SNL and Kids In The Hall sketches, for some reason)! I just have no idea where it would be, unfortch.

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 05:08 (eleven years ago) link

But if I ever find it, I'll try to remember to post it in the 'stephen king c/d?' thread.

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 05:08 (eleven years ago) link

I just finished Night Shift; my favorites by a long shot were "Quitters Inc" and "The Last Rung of the Ladder". I am not surprised that a 6th grader would not find them interesting enough to draw.

abanana, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 06:02 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, "Last Rung" and "Woman In The Room" resonated much more strongly this time 'round than they did when I was all "wtf this boring crap isn't horror" and hadn't had any first-hand experience with death & decline in the family. I also found "I Know What You Need" much creepier (like PUA taken to its logical and mildly supernatural extreme).

Starting to encounter the pointless ca. 1990 references in the uncut Stand (e.g. Freddy Krueger and Spuds MacKenzie). It's mildly irksome now that it was pointed out itt.

Gyrate For Physicet (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Well, then.

Stephen King is coming back to broadcast TV. CBS is giving the author’s Under the Dome a 13-episode series order.
Based on King’s bestselling novel, Under the Dome is the story of a small New England town that’s suddenly and inexplicably sealed off from the rest of the world by an enormous transparent dome. The town’s residents need to survive the deteriorating post-apocalyptic conditions while searching for answers to what this barrier is, where it came from, and how to make it go away.

“This is a great novel coming to the television screen with outstanding auspices and in-season production values to create a summer programming event,” said Nina Tassler, President of CBS Entertainment. “We’re excited to transport audiences Under the Dome and into the extraordinary world that Stephen King has imagined.”

The series version was originally developed at Showtime. But in an unusual move, the ambitious project jumped from a cable network’s slate to the major broadcaster (more on that below). It’s also a rather unique title for CBS, since the network has been traditionally more wary about betting on serialized dramas than its rivals. But with AMC’s The Walking Dead and NBC’s Revolution, apocalyptic serialized dramas have been delivering large numbers lately.

Fans of the novel shouldn’t expect an exact retelling of the same story. Last we heard, writer Brian K. Vaughan’s (Lost) script for Dome was wisely using the novel’s setup as a launch pad for its own TV-format-friendly version of the story and might even lay the groundwork for a different outcome than the novel’s ending. Also, the CBS version is definitely a series, not a mini-series, with a season finale episode that will leave the story open for more seasons.

Dome‘s development is an example of synergy at work. The project was developed at Showtime, owned by CBS Corp., but the network’s president David Nevins decided it wasn’t really right for the cable channel. He recommended it to Tassler, who was looking for summer programming and loved the concept. Also, Dome is based on the novel published by Simon & Schuster, which is a CBS company too. The development swap is a reverse of what happened with The Tudors, which was shepherded at CBS before moving to Showtime.

Under the Dome will air this summer. CBS Television Studios will produce the series in association with Amblin Television. There’s no cast in place yet, but Neal Baer, Stephen King, Justin Falvey, Darryl Frank, Stacey Snider will serve as executive producers along with Vaughan.

super perv powder (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

bryan k. vaughan! that makes a lot of sense, actually

attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

well, cool! for now. I'll be interested to see how this develops.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

My only off-the-bat concern is that, in the book, the eventual lack of air due to the dome was a real concern for the town and the characters. If they're making this more open-ended, it'll have to be addressed. I don't want it to be dumb like "Revolution" is.

super perv powder (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

i hope they write a better ending

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

already 100% better

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

A+

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

100 kowtows to phil D

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

“This is an existing human novel coming to the television screen with outstanding auspices and in-season production values to create a summer programming event, bleep blorp,” said Nina Tassler, Robot President of CBS Entertainment. “We are programmed to figuratively transport audiences 'Under the Dome' and into the illogical but potentially lucrative world that human author Stephen King has 'imagined' in a way that is similar to the way my kind approximates colloquial human language, bloop bloop.”

Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

wait there's another dark tower novel now?

bill paxman (darraghmac), Thursday, 29 November 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Based in part on praise found in this thread, I've been reading 11/22/63. I mentioned it to my dad, because I had enjoyed what I'd read so far, but he sort of shrugged and dismissed Stephen King as an anti Semite. It seemed unlikely, so I didn't really think anything of it, but lo and behold, in the book I kept coming across characters who said racist or anti Semitic things. Never the protagonist, but plenty of other characters, usually just dropped in for local color, so to speak. I did some googling, and apparently this is a thing, lots of explicitly racist or anti Semitic characters in Stephen King's books. Not sure what to make of it, and I'm sure Stephen King's unenlightened New England upbringing may have something to do with it, but as someone who has never so much as written or said the N word once, it's odd that it crops up again and again in several of Kings novels. Anyone else notice this?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 January 2013 02:46 (eleven years ago) link

I know reading King in junior high expanded my knowledge of curses and slurs about a thousandfold. Pretty sure this sort of dialog is something he's well-known for. Bear in mind that most of his racist or bigoted characters are usually also stupid and evil.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 21 January 2013 03:06 (eleven years ago) link

I've noticed that too, josh. I think he thinks that's how salt of the earth types talk. Maybe the salt of his earth does, who knows. But it's bothered me.

consistency is the owlbear of small minds (Jon Lewis), Monday, 21 January 2013 03:10 (eleven years ago) link

Long time King-reading Jew here, more sensitive to anti-Semitism than most, have never for one second in the course of reading dozens of books entertained the thought that SK has a problem with Jews

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 21 January 2013 03:25 (eleven years ago) link

the girl who hated kevin youkilis

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 21 January 2013 03:28 (eleven years ago) link


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