Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

all this hair-splitting over cultural appropriation hipster racism

The Shep article struck me as being a bit like academic seminars that I used to go to when doing critical theory post-grad, where one academic gave a paper and then all the other academics lined up to push their wheelbarrow and identify something the first academic had missed or glossed over.

These critiques were justifiable - as in, relevant, cogent, useful - maybe 40% of the time, which probably isn't that bad a batting average really, but the whole approach struck me as vulnerable to becoming small-minded, a process of peer-review less concerned with helping the original speaker improve their thought, but more to highlight or underscore a perceived shortcoming vis a vis the second speaker.

I was always more interested in people asking questions which drew out a point that the original speaker had made, that tried to get within the headspace of the paper - this was the real benefit (and presumably the official purpose) of the whole set-up, but it characterised a depressing minority of the actual interactions.

The reason I raise this is that it strikes me that as the distance b/w the (esp. indie-associated) artists and the people who discuss them (whether fans, critics, or the many people who hover b/w those rules) diminishes, the more a lot of the discourse starts to resemble that kind of peer review process. A video clip, a HBO TV show and a blog all exist as cultural products placing their creators on a level playing field of critical interrogation vis a vis one another. As with peer review seminars, I see the benefit of this, but it does seem to encourage a lot of self-satisfied oneup(wo)manship as well.

Come to think of it, Bo Diddley never went to Africa either.

I wish I could unsee those vulva rings.

if the video weren't problematic how would we know we're alive

Tim F that's a great post

if the video weren't problematic how would we know we're alive

― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Monday, October 1, 2012 12:27 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it looks like the Target deluxe edition contains "...All," "Gravity" and

and

and

::shudder::

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdiL01PRtWI

lol fuck wrong thread sorry

glad to know you're keeping tabs on grimes tho

Miguel> Grimes

the threads were right next to each other on ilm new answers! i have no idea what a grimes is

A. Grimes

http://agrimes.bandcamp.com/track/m-i-l-f

That's how you get the first listing in the Grimes section of the yellow pages

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081126080205/simpsons/images/4/42/Tombgshci.jpg

sorry huge, someone below the fold probably made that reference allready anyway

tim it is pretty baffling to me that you did postgraduate studies in crit theory since you are like, the clearest writer ever

Law was a pretty good counterweight - my problem in that dept is that I'm still too elliptical and roundabout at times.

http://www.startribune.com/local/west/49134952.html?page=all&refer=y

I love this portrait of Claire Boucher. Sriracha on iPad:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mej3ou7NuT1qzcdbeo1_500.jpg

I guess it's a good thing for music fans that they couldn't get that engine working. xp

http://deadgirlfriends.tumblr.com/post/39420019737/how-do-you-feel-about-trolls

I saw this album on a lot of year-end lists and I took a flyer on Amazon. I'm glad that I did. It reminds me of Austra, who I also adore, in that is seems perfectly accessible to me. I cannot wait to play this for the wife.

TMI

Okay somebody explain the Tumblr post/Pitchfork repost kerfluffle today; I don't quite know what happened there.

Although I see this now

http://actuallygrimes.tumblr.com/

From what I understand, people were giving her shit for her year end list at some publication, which featured some fairly universally loved pop songs/artists. She wrote a tumblr post this morning going into a detailed defense of it. Other blogs and eventually Pitchfork picked up on it. She said her tumblr isn't any kind of offical statement or news source, and then promptly deleted everything she'd ever posted on there.

whether or not an artist's blog post is legitimate news from a news org's perspective is one question... i don't really agree with grimes tho

lol tumblr

Weird, I was reading that Tumblr post 30 minutes or so. Seemed relatively uncontroversial stuff, but then young ppl I guess.

gotta lock up yr diaryland, grimes

xp j0rdan u don't agree that listening to pop music is ok?

lol, not that part

<3 grimes

man that's really sad. i just read the pitchfork thing, she is smart & says good stuff.

yeah

Biggups Grimes! I don't care much for your music but you sure know yr onions.

^^^ sticker quote

Attacking her for these opinions is bullshit

leave britney alone

I don't care much for your music but you sure know yr onions.

yes

& I don't care much for the music she's defending but I "get it" and am glad it exists

I like that she sees her creative process as swinging between making Dune albums and LOTR albums

didn't grimes recently say she'll be posting to her tumblr a lot more often for the fans? seems a little strange to go from that to deleting every post you've made

what is grimes hiding?

you can't hide from internet caches, "grimes"

It seems weird to delete your whole Tumblr just because someone publishes your intelligent points at length and in context but then she's smart, intense and volatile so I guess it fits.

I think she did because people were being dicks

Oh, I thought she wrote it in response to people being dicks about her EOY list.

afaik people never stop being dicks.

yeah, it's fair game for her to take it down. it sucks for the rest of us, but clearly many people on the Internet are massive dicks who think we don't deserve intelligent discourse.