Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

oh my god fucking ilx politics compulsiveness. stop arguing w/ morbz about shit he will never change his mind he just likes to argue on the internet.

He doesn't argue

Big Bird vs Pakistanis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yMOzvmgVhc&feature=youtu.be

yesterday bradley manning was 900 days in detention. today the afghan war enters its 12th year.

This weekend is the fourteenth anniversary of my not getting Columbus Day off.

wait it's columbus day?

totally office politics

i propose that we postpone the war on christmas and focus our attention on g-d columbus day, arguably the stupidest of american holidays

Most insulting, maybe. We've got a lot of stupid holidays.

Symmetry requires it!

probably the main obstacle to getting rid of columbus day is federal employee contracts

you'd have to get congress to agree on a new holiday probably

it's the stupidest because it's so thoughtlessly offensive---nat'l accounting day is pretty fucking dumb but at least it doesn't celebrate genocidal conquest

nb i did not know that accounting day existed, i just thought "wouldn't it be moronic for there to be a day for accountants" and lo google provided

apologies to the accountants of ilx of course

at'l accounting day is pretty fucking dumb but at least it doesn't celebrate genocidal conquest

depends on how we define "accounting"

Accounting Day®

the airing of grievances

Thanksgiving is a little more offensive, i think.

At least Columbus day comes right out and says "Yeah imperialism!", Thanksgiving is based pretty much on the goodwill of the people we destroyed.

well yeah but I like pumpkin wine and drinking my family's liquor

haha pumpkin PIE but yeah whatever that too

Thanksgiving is like reading a great novel but skipping the last chapter where everyone dies and the bad guys win.

that's my idea of a great novel!

(Spoiler alert, sorry)

Bookmarkable US Politics Thread v3.1: blah blah Big Bird etc

new thread apparently

No that's really the part III Elections thread.

Greenwald linkage should probably stay in here.

Shouldn't the title of that 3.1 thread say "US Elections" in it and not "US Politics" . Mod should change it.

yeah it should say "Elections"

not that it really matters

The transubstantiation miracle by which the "politics" thread is actually the intended "election" thread is, of course, the ultimate in symmetry.

Republicans were aiming to embarrass the Obama administration over State Department security lapses. But they inadvertently caused a different picture to emerge than the one that has been publicly known: that the victims may have been let down not by the State Department but by the CIA. If the CIA was playing such a major role in these events, which was the unmistakable impression left by Wednesday’s hearing, having a televised probe of the matter was absurd.

The chairman, attempting to close his can of worms, finally suggested that “the entire committee have a classified briefing as to any and all other assets that were not drawn upon but could have been drawn upon” in Benghazi.

Good idea. Too bad he didn’t think of that before putting the CIA on C-SPAN.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-letting-us-in-on-a-secret/2012/10/10/ba3136ca-132b-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_story.html

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/11/wisconsin_goper_some_girls_rape_easy/

I have no coherent words to say about this

“Just remember, Roger, some girls, they rape so easy.

isn't this a Rolling Stones lyric

I think you're confusing it with Mick's line about "some Puerto Rican girls that are just dying to rape you."

It's incredible to contrast the tone of his original quote with that of his official statement.

Rahm Emanuel pretends that Obama didn't speak out against Bush detention/ surveillance policy in 2008:

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/16/rahm_emanuel_takes_liberal_base_bashing_to_a_whole_new_level/

http://nymag.com/news/politics/elections-2012/tea-party-2012-10/

Frank Rich has the blues:

This is a nation that loathes government and always has. Liberals should not be deluded: The Goldwater revolution will ultimately triumph, regardless of what happens in November.

Sorry if this is already been linked to or discussed on one of the many other US politics threads

The Goldwater revolution will ultimately triumph

http://blog.timesunion.com/running/files/2010/08/knight3.jpg

frank rich needs to calm down

frank rich will NOT calm down!

Brookings blogdick upset that the new NY Times public editor wants to "challenge" the righteousness of the US drone campaign:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/15/drones-brookings-media

During that Republican electoral debacle, Richard Hofstadter, the historian who would famously stigmatize the right as embodying “the paranoid style in American politics,” wrote in The New York Review of Books that Goldwater represented “a very special minority point of view which is not even preponderant in his own party.” He added: “When, in all our history, has anyone with ideas so bizarre, so archaic, so self-confounding, so remote from the basic American consensus, ever gone so far?” As it happened, Ronald Reagan, the most enthusiastic and eloquent of Goldwater exponents, would be elected governor of California just two years later.

two uneventful years

especially in california

"as it happened"

on answering tough questions, or How Paul Ryan Is Like Madeleine Albright and John Brennan (also, Saddam Hussein)

http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/003641.html

joe klein, brave defender of american 4-year-olds:

SCARBOROUGH: "This is offensive to me, though. Because you do it with a joystick in California - and it seems so antiseptic - it seems so clean - and yet you have 4-year-old girls being blown to bits because we have a policy that now says: 'you know what? Instead of trying to go in and take the risk and get the terrorists out of hiding in a Karachi suburb, we're just going to blow up everyone around them.'

...

KLEIN: "If it is misused, and there is a really major possibility of abuse if you have the wrong people running the government. But: the bottom line in the end is - whose 4-year-old get killed? What we're doing is limiting the possibility that 4-year-olds here will get killed by indiscriminate acts of terror."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/23/klein-drones-morning-joe

no chance a drone can destroy a TV studio eh

wow, what a piece of shit

scarborough is tacking left for the election or he's always been not so cool w/ drones?

that's always been the calculus of bombing campaigns

i guess scarborough is cool with it if the planes have pilots?

Scarborough likes Obama and Obama policies, but he has to backtrack every so often to give off the appearance he's still a reliable conservative voice in a liberal wasteland.

four year olds like Joe Klein.