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A couple of years ago, when I was at the height of my fantasy baseball obsession (I mean, I'm still really into fantasy, but that year I was *obsessed*), I ponied up the $10 or whatever it was to get all games over internet radio from MLB.com. I'm not sure if they still have that deal; I bet they probably charge more now. That was the only year I did it. So yeah, I would basically listen to all the games involving my starting pitchers, so I got to hear most of the radio folks.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link

They still offer it, it's $15 now. I'm using it right now to listen to Ron Santo aw jeez over the Cubs. Searched out a little Jon Miller last night, he's great (which I knew from ESPN, but still).

mattbot (mattbot), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I used to like Al Michaels doing the games on ABC. Jon Miller is my favorite national guy now.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link

everyone OTM about Stone. I like him; he adds a lot to the game rather than just filling up airtime. He's greatly appreciated after I'm in the car and listening to Santo on WGN. Destroy that mofo. Pat Harris and Stoney would make a great team. (Chip is tolerable, though)

oops (Oops), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Josh Lewin isn't so bad. But that might just be his pairing with Tom Grieve, who makes everyone look good in comparison.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

What are you talking about, Santo is great!

Steve Stone filled in for Santo in the playoffs last year, when Ronnie was in surgery in Arizona -- and I just couldn't deal with it. Hughes would make a generalization, and Stone would come in and be like, "Well, that's not actually true, Pat." I just wasn't used to someone correcting Hughes, who's a pretty smart broadcaster himself.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 August 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Whatever you may say about Santo's foibles, you can tell that he and Hughes genuinely like each other, and that kind of good-natured camaraderie comes across in the broadcast and is appreciated.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 August 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

...and if you like the sound of a professional broadcaster grunting, woofing and moaning as the fortunes of his teams change, sure, Santo is awesome. Right up there with the Dick Butkus/Mike Fencik radio broadcasting crew of the Bears a few years back...

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 20 August 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Santo doesn't even know what the hell is going on half the time. It's embarassing. But they continue to prop him up there because Cubs fans slurp up the routine.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 20 August 2004 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Santo is more of a mascot than a broadcaster, it's true. Which is really sort of a tradition in Cubs broadcasting, now that I think about it...

http://www.powermaxconsulting.com/a_caray1.jpg

mattbot (mattbot), Friday, 20 August 2004 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean, I personally don't have a big problem with it, but let's call a spade a spade. That's all I'm saying. There are long stretches of just Hughes play-by-play (which is great; he's top-notch) accompanied by occasional "Aw, gee..."s and "Yeah!"s from the other side of the booth.

Then a couple times an inning Hughes will lead him: "Clement's looking good today, Ronnie..." That extra "Ronnie" punctuating the sentence as if to say "wake up over there, little buddy!"

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 20 August 2004 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Mark Grace cursed on air last night?

What did he say?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Apparently some F-bombs.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link

That extra "Ronnie" punctuating the sentence as if to say "wake up over there, little buddy!"

Haha, true!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link

i like jon miller. he's not afraid to give morgan some shit, he speaks the spanish, and supposedly wears shorts with his jacket and tie (although i haven't seen evidence of this in their booth shots).

fucking destroy the white sox on wgn (harrelson, yes?). jesus. i never had wgn until this year, and that's okay.

gotta say that i like the orioles' staff. the p-b-p guys are capable (it is odd that i know that fred manfra was qb at oj simpson's high school, though). jim palmer suffers occasionally from hall-of-famer syndrome, but honestly not too much, and often lightens it up with an anecdote about how earl weaver kicked his ass. buck martinez is also good, and neither of them are nightmarish homers.

nats are kind of weird. on the radio side they've got two old school guys who switch roles every few innings. it's fine apart from the incessant mentions of the "rhythmic applause". television color is ron darling, who is fine content-wise but has strange inflection--everything he says sounds vaguely like a question. (when i mentioned to a friend back in april that darling was doing color he asked "has he talked about the no-hitter he threw in college yet?" to which the answer was yes, but the p-b-p guy brought it up.)

i dislike gary thorne on principle, but i think he's a decent announcer. steve stone is kind of awesome. the tbs guys are all right--i appreciate they way skip says 'chipperjones...'

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I've mentioned them before, but the on-air Hawk/Deej fights are so awesome. I haven't been able to find them online.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate Chip Caray, getting kind of tired of Skip; I think Sutton is pretty good, verging on really good. Pete Van Wieren and (especially) Joe Simpson are up there with the best in baseball. Why Ron Gant is allowed on the air is beyond me.

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 11 August 2005 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link

jeff brantley is awful!

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 11 August 2005 00:50 (eighteen years ago) link

(although i kind of felt for him when he intimated that his life pretty much collapsed when he retired from playing)

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 11 August 2005 00:51 (eighteen years ago) link

sutton's got great stories - during a st. louis game he was talking about how hot it would get on the old astroturf and how players would combat the heat - lots of them would put cabbage leaves under their hats (!) but one player he wouldn't name one day had the bright idea of wrapping his feet in aluminum foil. he mentioned another time how pedro guerrero would daydream during games alot, watch planes flying overhead etc., and one time their was a meeting at the mound and lasorda asked guerrero 'what are you thinking when you're out here?' and guerrero responded 'well i'm thinking two things. the first thing i'm thinking is i hope they don't hit it to me. and the second thing i'm thinking is i hope they don't hit it to sax'.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 11 August 2005 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link

baseball is the thinking man's game

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 11 August 2005 00:53 (eighteen years ago) link

The sixth-stringers doing the Braves-Giants game for ESPN tonight (some guy named Sciambi plus Mark McLemore) used the cover of anonymity to beat a dead horse — Larry Krueger — for a full inning tonight. It probably won't move them up the broadcaster depth chart, and I'm sure the irony of what they were doing went right over their heads.

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 11 August 2005 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I hope they had to turn up their mikes over a war chant?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Vin Scully, last night's game:

"Fans, after the Pirates game next Saturday, please stay for a concert by the All-American Rejects sponsored by KROQ.

[pause]

You know alternative groups these days have the strangest names...

The other day I heard of a group named "Three Doors Down"...

[pause]

Makes you wonder who these guys are... where they live... Three Doors Down.

And the first pitch: change-up, fouled away...

How about "Alice In Chains"?...

[voice trails off slightly]

"The Greatful Dead"....

gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 17 September 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

a spreadsheet listing the first 10,000 or so national TV games, and the broadcasters who called them.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AuEh2Uie-nSmdG1Na1d0dHhwUnFMQlE3VjZ5REJTbnc&output=html

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 June 2013 11:49 (ten years ago) link

I don't remember Koufax doing color for NBC in '72.

Nor did I know that Jackie Robinson worked games for ABC in '65.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 June 2013 11:54 (ten years ago) link

that was completely awesome, spent way too much time looking at it.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 05:24 (ten years ago) link

I do remember the guest "third man" in the booth NBC did in summer '73... ranging from actual ex-regulars like Red Barber, Dizzy Dean and Mel Allen to Danny Kaye, Glen Campbell and... George C. Scott!

playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link

No recollection of Lupica doing color (1990 only, apparently). Good lord.

Andy K, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Saturday, Jan. 1, lists four bars: the Back Room, still on Rush Street, plus three long-ago joints: 20 E. Delaware, Sully’s and Peppy’s, with expenses for each $10.30, $9.97, $10, and $8.95. This in a year when a six-pack of Old Style set you back $1.29.

You needed to cite who you entertained to get the write-off, so on New Year’s Day he lists Dave Condon, the Tribune sports columnist; Billy Sullivan, who owned Sully’s; and Joe Pepitone, the former Yankees first baseman who had been traded to the Cubs.

And so it begins. A chain of old-time Chicago bars — Riccardo’s, Boul Mich, Mr. Kelly’s. A posse of early 1970s sports figures — Wilt Chamberlain, Don Drysdale, Gale Sayers. Plus a few unexpected blasts from the past: boxer Jack Dempsey, comedian Jack Benny.

“These guys did nothing but go out and have a few cocktails,” said Jimmy Rittenberg, who owned Faces, which Caray visited 14 times in 1972. “I don’t know how they did it. They were 20, 30 years older than me and I couldn’t keep up with them.”

Jan. 16 something unusual happens. Caray is in Miami, yet there are no expenses, just one enigmatic word, “Super.”

After that break, if indeed it was, comes 288 consecutive days in bars, not only in Chicago, but New York City, and of course on the road with the Sox, beginning with spring training in Sarasota.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/27767026-419/harry-caray-diary-tracked-every-drink-every-bar-in-1972.html#.U5H44vldVyy

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 June 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

Free BP article on some staff faves; decent read including the comments, where the writers are taken to task for picking hometown guys, which the commenters then mostly do as well.

I didn't know Dewayne Staats likes to call balls "non-strikes."

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=24352

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 August 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

Are broadcasters employed by the network or the team? Mix of both? How much does it matter? In some cases, the network is owned or co-owned by the team, right? (eg YES)

WilliamC, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 19:21 (nine years ago) link

it used to be a mix, but maybe team is increasingly the answer?

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link

That's sort of my thinking too. I wish Cot's had a broadcasters section — I'd love to know who's cutting the checks to the mouths who jibjab on my teevee. In the case of the Braves I'd guess Fox for Chip and the team for Joe Simpson, but who the hell knows for sure?

WilliamC, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link

i'd be pretty sure the guys sitting next to each other have the same boss.

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 April 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link

hmm, not sure I could assume that.

WilliamC, Wednesday, 15 April 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

search: jim deshaies

mookieproof, Friday, 17 April 2015 23:39 (nine years ago) link

He'll probably not want to be seen making calls during the broadcast.

clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2015 23:38 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

not really the right thread but w/e

the centerstage w/ chris russo is amazing, in response to why he got sent to boarding school -

"in 8th grade i got a 50 on a spanish final and my mother loved spanish and her beloved only child gets a 50 on the final she said thats it get him outta here"

johnny crunch, Friday, 14 August 2015 23:03 (eight years ago) link

That's it, huh?

Andy K, Saturday, 15 August 2015 12:07 (eight years ago) link

well he also said that lebron is no michael jordan

johnny crunch, Saturday, 15 August 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

this is a bad list

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/jul/11/best-mlb-broadcast-teams-baseball

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 01:55 (six years ago) link

Had no idea that Steve Berthiaume likes baseball so much.

Andy K, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 02:25 (six years ago) link

That was the worst list

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 03:20 (six years ago) link

Keith Hernandez really needs an intervention where he is told that every truth he introduces with "When I was a kid" IS AN ILLUSION.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 July 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link

Keith: "You could count on the guys like Mays, McCovey, Jimmy Davenport every year"

Davenport (SFG 3b)'s WAR in his seasons as a regular, 1958-69:

1.3, 1.8. 1.1, 2.9, 4.8, 0.9, 1.2, -0.2, 1.2, 3.5, 0.1, -0.4

Decent career, and could charitably be called consistent for perhaps his first 5 seasons. (When Keith was a Bay Area rooter between ages 4 and 9, which is the relevant stat here.)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 July 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link

I guess I am going to have to fire up the archive of last night's Cards game; from FB:

Tim McCarver just went on an epic rant (even for him) against pitch counts, sabermetrics, and the world in general. Anyone have the ability to get video of the bottom of the 5th? It was unreal. I wasn't even mad, just laughing. Dan McLaughlin, the play by play guy, did an amazing job of egging him on and subtly mocking him.[

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 July 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

.@RealMichaelKay: An over-reliance on analytics likely cost the Yankees in the ALDS. pic.twitter.com/P4EiF004FR

— YES Network (@YESNetwork) October 10, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

such a massive idiot

The NYT Mag article on the Mets' booth a couple weeks ago was pretty good

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 October 2018 01:45 (five years ago) link

Spencer Thighder

Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Sunday, 14 May 2023 20:39 (eleven months ago) link

Yankees fans 🤝 Red Sox fans

tweeting angrily at ESPN/Karl Ravelach for this:

"I know your mom passed away when you were young, what does Mother's Day mean to you and your brother?" - Karl Ravech question to Triston Casas while playing first base on Sunday Night Baseball. pic.twitter.com/5HEwa5dVhw

— Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) May 15, 2023

Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Monday, 15 May 2023 19:30 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Tom Glavine makes the easiest money in the game -- 3rd man in the booth, doesn't travel, doesn't work all home games, barely opens his mouth, doesn't put much thought into what he does say. But he's a Hall of Famer!

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 03:23 (ten months ago) link

I like the Australian guy I've heard on Braves broadcasts.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 04:14 (ten months ago) link

former Barves reliever Peter Moylan! He's been great and from the moments I've heard.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 06:10 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, Moylan is good. He usually does pregame/postgame but gets into the booth sometimes, I guess when Frenchy is doing national-network games.

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 13:42 (ten months ago) link

Angels game rolled over into the postgame studio bit and Bobby Valentine looked terrifying, big 'the owner of a traveling circus who'd try to buy your soul' energy.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:28 (ten months ago) link

three months pass...

Boog Sciambi was great when he was just a bro who knew the game and could enunciate. Now the harder he performs the less good/interesting he is.

WmC, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 00:25 (six months ago) link

five months pass...

I haven't been keeping up with MLB streaming/broadcasting news over the offseason, so this was a bit surprising:

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/diamond-sports-deal-emerge-bankruptcy-signs-streaming-pact-with-amazon-2024-01-17/

Jan 17 (Reuters) - Regional sports programmer Diamond Sports Group, a unit of Sinclair Broadcast (SBGI.O), opens new tab, said on Wednesday it has signed an agreement with a group of creditors to emerge from bankruptcy and will get funding from Amazon.com (AMZN.O), opens new tab as part of a streaming deal.
Diamond, which operates regional sports channels under the Bally Sports brand, said it will receive $450 million in financing from the creditor group, $495 million from Sinclair and $115 million from Amazon. Diamond will use the funds to pay down older debts and continue operations. Amazon will take a minority equity stake in Diamond as part of the deal.

What the new Diamond-Amazon deal means for MLB, NBA, NHL:
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39333324/diamond-amazon-streaming-mlb-nba-nhl

So I may be able to watch Braves games on BezosPrime this season? Weird. Is there any updated news on this from the past 2 months? A quick search isn't turning anything up.

UKXEPCTED TWITS (WmC), Monday, 18 March 2024 00:39 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

IT'S HERE
IT'S FOUND

21 yrs ago I was a NESN truck intern watching Jerry relentlessly roast Don over what a lunar eclipse is. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard to this day. Enjoy the best six min of your week. (Enormous h/t to @sidsethupathi)

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— Mike Petriello (@mike_petriello) April 9, 2024

, Thursday, 11 April 2024 12:24 (one week ago) link

so, i bit the bullet and decided to get directv streaming for the season so i can have access to masn, and i have to say, i REALLY like kevin brown and ben mcdonald as a pair. i get that for a lot of folks, jim palmer is sort of an acquired taste, but i also think brown and palmer work well together, too. brown is good on the aspects of the modern game/culture, has a good voice and puts a bit of his own spin on the call that doesn't really sound forced.

j.q higgins, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:15 (one week ago) link

that orsillo-remy bit is fantastic, maybe even better than 'here comes the pizza'

mookieproof, Friday, 12 April 2024 01:50 (one week ago) link

I don't know how old Harry Caray was when he signed this. I'm not trying to be mean--as a semi-regular contributor to the VegemiteGrrl's Home for the Absent-Minded thread, believe me, I understand.

https://i.postimg.cc/QxcxXvyN/harry.jpg

clemenza, Friday, 19 April 2024 20:13 (one hour ago) link


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