Band T-shirt Etiquette

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she looks like a banger to me.

brian badword (badwords), Saturday, 14 September 2002 01:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

no alex I think you've made it pretty well.

Josh (Josh), Saturday, 14 September 2002 02:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, there's the sanctimony and derision I was expecting.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 September 2002 02:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

that's rich.

I have a House of Pain T-shirt that I bought for $2 and makes a very functional nightshirt. Is that not reason enough?

felicity (felicity), Saturday, 14 September 2002 07:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Paying 100s of dollars for a T-Shirt = lunacy whatever's on it.

Augmenting old rock t-shirts with rhinestones = bad how exactly? Rhinestones are a big country music/liberace thing i.e. to metropolitan types they carry this overtone of kitsch, so what these T-Shirts are really saying is that rock, especially vintage rock is itself kitsch now, with the further implications that i)no of course I don't know three Motorhead tracks, ii)if you care about having your dead culture taken the piss out of then you're a bit sad.

i.e. Alex is right to hate them, but only cos they hated him first. They're a fairly brutal anti-rock statement. Anyone who wears one of them and a selection of current rock band tees is either a right chump or very clever.

Tom (Groke), Saturday, 14 September 2002 07:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

the only item of clothing mentioned in this thread that i ever would actually wear is the house of pain shirt

simon trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 14 September 2002 07:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

The main act wearing the t-shirt of the support act onstage: classic.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 14 September 2002 10:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

i have dope shirts!!!! i gots a 1984 dead kennedys new years flyer, melvins, mr bungle polo golf shirt, a bootleg cure shirt, 2 the the shirts, a shirt for unpopular manchester band the railway children, a motorhead shirt (signed by lemmy), 3 shirts from my friends band strung out, a wu wear hoodie, a sean john parka, and a long sleeve in flames shirt. i never wear any of them obv.

chaki (chaki), Saturday, 14 September 2002 10:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

you are all mentalists: the only reason for wearing clothes AT ALL is to fuck with other people's heads obv

the rhinestone woman in the motorhead stuff has fucked with alex's so she owns this thread

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 14 September 2002 11:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Augmenting old rock t-shirts with rhinestones = bad how exactly? Rhinestones are a big country music/liberace thing i.e. to metropolitan types they carry this overtone of kitsch

Rock was also a big country music/liberace thing, so it's all good.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 14 September 2002 12:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

band t. shirt story -
i go up 2 the dj booth of my local indie disco
circa mid 92. i hear a good song i don't know playing, so
(leans over)"who's this mate..." ?
"it's...(looks at morrissey t.shirt on my chest)...morrissey..."
song playing - 'glamorous glue'.
not my fault, the lp had only
just come out + i was a poor teen at the time.
what made it worse was i actually said as the dj was about
to answer, "is it gallon drunk..." ?

then there was the time both damon a. and justine f.
gave me a good natured hard time at elastica's 1st gig
up north ('93)cause i had my suede 'metal mickey' t. shirt on.

got punched in the head once at a party in chester, and
i'm not convinced it wasn't because i had a baby pink
skin-tight elastica t. shirt on.

piscesboy, Saturday, 14 September 2002 14:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've boycotted all band merch in the last couple of years. Have you seen some of these bands, especially punk rock bands and their merch tables? It's like damn walwart. A few weeks ago I worked a Strung out show with three other bands on the bill. Even the opener (made up of Roadies for S/O) were selling 10 different T shirts. You could barely get into the club, there was so much crap clogging the entrance.

mogreen, Sunday, 15 September 2002 18:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

hey--let's not knock Drea De Matteo. She is, after all, Adrianna of Sopranos fame. Her run at Jersey girl style and attitude is abso-fucking-lutely fantastic. Adrianna is such a great character. She deserves props for that, if nothing else. So what if she has a lame store that sells lame t-shirts.

cybele, Sunday, 15 September 2002 18:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

if wearing band t-shirt to same band show is dorky, that would seem to be a good reason to do it. everyone knows that coolness is not very cool. the only band shirt i own now is an acetone shirt, which i wear fairly regularly. my old band used to wear our own shirts onstage, i never gave it much thought - maybe that's why we sucked.

ron (ron), Sunday, 15 September 2002 18:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't have any band T-Shirts anymore, except I guess I do. I used to have a handful. I had the Primus Pork Soda shirt with lyrics on the back. I had a Smashing Pumpkins T-shirt with a big silver glitter heart on the front (I forget what was on the back), and I had the Nirvana shirt with the seahorses on the front, a discussion of mating habits on the back, and in very tiny print at the bottom, it said "yeah this was a nirvana shirt". The only shirt I ever really cared about owning when I was younger was the SP Siamese Dream shirt that said "Just say maybe". This is a pretty good summation of my success with girls when I was young hahahaha!
Nowadays, I belive there is too much advertising in the world, so I try to wear exclusively blank t shirts, except I still don't have enough of them, so every so often, I am wearing text. This includes the one band shrt that I currently own, given to me by the manager of Antibalas when they came to our school. It is purple, has a logo on the front, and says on the back "In times of great deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - Orwell. I hope I got the quote right... Even though I have the no-ad policy for myself, I don't ever bother others to conform to this personal ideal...

As for etiquette, well, I think that when a band is on tour and has no time to do laundry, they will probably borrow some shirts from the merch counter and that is ok.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 15 September 2002 19:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Best band t-shirt anecdote I have - Ladyfest London, 1st August - Brigit Colton, bass player out of Angelica, spots a young man in one of their T-shirts during their set, and says 'Well, there's a young man over there in a very nice t-shirt - where did you buy that?' She passes him the microphone, he replies, 'I found it in a bin.' Much Hilarity, except on the part of Ms Colton herself.

Mr Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 15 September 2002 19:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

''Do you *HONESTLY* believe this woman to be a Motorhead fan?''

yeah, I think she could be a motorhead fan (I really do!!). why can't blonde chicks like motor head, what's so unbelievable abt it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 September 2002 19:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

This presumes something along the lines of "the fanbase should resemble the band members".

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Sunday, 15 September 2002 20:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think we can all agree that would be sub-optimal in this particular case.

I have a friend who bought an enormous Iron Maiden patch for his jean jacket and sewed it on over the skinny shoulders; it went all the way from one side of the jacket to the other - and he'd never heard a lick of Maiden in his life (to his knowledge). Within weeks he'd become the biggest Maiden fan I know. He eventually owned a "lifesize" poster of Eddie busting through a white background so when you put it on your wall it looks like he's busting through your wall (if your wall is white; I think later Sam moved and his walls weren't white so he spent 2+ hrs cutting Eddie's shape out so that the illusion would be omni-chromatic). He even joined a rock band eventually and sang Dickinson-style - not only vocally but to the point of putting his foot up on the monitor and leaning into his scream.... if the argument goes that Napster et al are just free advertising and a good way for people to hear music they might not otherwise know, surely the same goes for band paraphernalia which actually IS advertising (and seems, in some cases, to lead to life-long love affairs).

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 15 September 2002 20:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Shun the Cult of "The Sopranos"!

Motel Hell (vassifer), Sunday, 15 September 2002 23:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

I just bought the first "band" t-shirt I've bought in a good number of years. And I don't really like the band don't own any of their records, but I think the T-shirt is cool.

so i guess thats not good ettiquitte?

dsico (dsico), Monday, 16 September 2002 00:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

My personal method of band t-shirting: Buy t-shirt of band that I have heard v.v.v. little by but have this overwhelming conviction that they're the coolest fuckers of like, ever. Last one I bought that did this was a decent looking Stooges t-shirt about two years ago, but now I'm waay over Iggy and it's all ripped an shit and I only wear it to the gym to blank / mildly annoyed stares from the local meatheads and lycra-clad late 30-somethinged ladies that are there (this being seedy downtown Wigan btw).

Not been into band t-shirts for about a year as suits took over my wardrobe but am desperately seeking a classy Motley Crue shirt since being converted to the side of hair metal upon seeing the AWESOMENESS that was G n R live at Leeds last month. But will need this shirt soon before I get bored of metal - anticipating another month of giving it up bigtime to 'Shout at the devil' before I start thinking "well it's all a bit trite isn't it?"

Another point, I'm a bit concerned about this ironic-metal t-shirt thing that's going around. I mean, I don't have the hair or dress of a rrreal rawker (more of a maudlin mod) so will I just look like some smug student prick, or can I pull it off? I mean, this ain't no ironic flit with the beast that is rawk, uh uh, I have genuine admiration for those who live the rrrock ideal to its fullest (be they fat, bald, stupid, whatever). It takes balls to rock and I'm not sure I've earned the right to display The Crue across my piegon chest yet. So please, sate my fears or explain how yes, I am a tit so I can deal with it. And yeah, if anyone knows where to get a decent Crue t-shirt from, please tell.

Ian SPACK, Monday, 16 September 2002 01:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

One of my friends wore a "shoot all fucking pigs" T-shirt around that he got from some punk band (I forget who), But I thought that was pretty funny.

Also Once when I was wearing my Merzbow T-shirt to a Spiritualized concert. (oops) somebody made fun of me say "You got the Mezbox, huh, it's really big, isn't it" (or something along that line.)

I also ran into a complete stranger at a museum in NYC who had a Merzbow shirt on when I was wearing mine, and my friend said "Whoa, another Merzbow shirt" and the guy turned around and looked frightened. I was laughing. he said his friend was had released some Merzbow albums and made T-shirts to promote it.

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 16 September 2002 02:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

man everyone knows someone thats released a merzbow album!

chaki (chaki), Monday, 16 September 2002 04:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

I once attended a free concert which had Shawn Colvin and John Secada and some usher dude complimented by Skinny Puppy shirt. Oh, and my old Chemlab "Fuck Art / Let's Kill" got quite a few comments. None have garnered the attention of my "chicks dig scrawny pale guys" shirt though.

bnw (bnw), Monday, 16 September 2002 05:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Best band t-shirt I ever got was a Right Said Fred - Deeply Dippy one, very cheap and excellent quality, other hipper bands tshirts have fallen by the wayside in rags but this one keeps on going.

tigerclawskank, Monday, 16 September 2002 09:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

"seeking a classy Motley Crue shirt"

Can such a thing exist?

I have about four or five Cop Shoot Cop t-shirts (a band I was obsessed with during their brief, tumultuous heyday), but am too much of a wimp in this post 9/11 world to wear'em anymore.

Also have a vintage Pussy Galore shirt ("From the Hate Fuck Capital City of the World...") that doesn't really win me a lot of favor.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 September 2002 12:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000560XJ.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Andrea Corr.......New York Dolls fan? I think not.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well...considering that Andrea Corr recently attended a Iggy Pop concert...

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Monday, 16 September 2002 13:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hmmmm.....rather a good point, Siegbran.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 16 September 2002 14:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

So did I incur karmic damage by wearing my Spectrum t-shirt to a Spiritualized show?

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Monday, 16 September 2002 22:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic: buying a gross of unsold totally-obscure band t-shirts dirt cheap when obscure band breaks up. I have 40 or so identical white shirts with a small black logo that says "Singer" -- perfectly serviceable undershirts given reasonable opacity on the part of the outer layer.

I met the bassist from Singer a little while back and offered to give him a bunch of shirts, but he said that he had several dozen lying around already.

Bands that sink their working capital into making merch before making records: C/D?

Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 14:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

No worries, Chris, so long as Jason didn't see it.

I have something like, what, 150 band shirts plus? Maybe 200. I love 'em, what can I say, and they're all from shows I was at. Yow.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 15:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

''So did I incur karmic damage by wearing my Spectrum t-shirt to a Spiritualized show?''

chris, you have such a bad 'tude!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 20:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

"So did I incur karmic damage by wearing my Spectrum t-shirt to a Spiritualized show?"

In all seriousness? By "the Law of John" (see initial thread query at the top), no, as Spectrum and Spiritualized (let alone Darkside, Spaceman 3, Sonic Boom etc. etc.) are technically different bands.

*BUT*

You are sorta guilty of the ol' "ooh, I'm in the know!" crime, suggesting that you're quite hip to the proceedings at work and not merely a fan of Spiritualized, but of their whole milieu. Kinda like wearing a Killing Joke shirt to a Damage Manual show or a sporting a Wedding Present shirt at a Cinerama show or wearing a Marillion shirt to Fish show (wait, who goes to Fish shoes?), or wearing a Misfits shirt at a Danzig show....almost wilfully defying and challenging the artist onstage to admit his artistic heritage, and indirectly telling all other bystanders: "Hey, by the way, I'm not just a fan of that guy onstage, but I've done my homework, buddy, and I'm a dedicated enough fan -- probably unlike you, you fairweather punter -- to know about all the other branches of the tree that produced the fruit you're now enjoying!" It's almost-but-not-quite as bad as yelling "We Love You, Declan!" at Elivs Costello....a sort've smugly unsolicited assertion of your knowledge of music trivia.

I know I'm guilty of it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 22:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Christ, I'm also guilty of appalling spelling. That should be Fish SHOWS, not shoes. And, of course, it's ElvIs, not Elivs.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 22:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't wear band advertisements to shows anymore - because I'm self-conscious that people think anyone who wears a band's shirt is trying to advertise his own coolness.

But I used to make my own shirts. I had made a Lou Reed shirt - just a silhouette of his face - everyone used to ask me where I got it... I made a Pere Ubu shirt... My wife asked why I didn't just buy the bands' shirts .. I think I said something like ~ because it says their name all ofver it - and if you know who it's supposed to be, then you don't need to read their name ... or some shit answer like that... Anyway, she said, So a shirt with a picture of D.Boon on it would be even cooler because he's not a band, he's (was) just in a band. So I made a D.Boon shirt - the picture from the back of Double Nickels, but I did write his name on it because you could barely make out who it was in the picture. Mang, I loved that shirt though... until I started hearing more & more about the Minutemen .. like people had gone back & discovered them, maybe because Henry Rollins and Sonic Youth had become popluar, I dunno... So I stopped wearing the D.Boon shirt to gigs because D.Boon was no longer a secret.

Also, I never saw the Ramones live, but I do have a tour shirt from when a friend of mine went to see them & a riot broke out. People stole all of the shirts... Normally, I wouldn't condone stealing, but since it was looting during a riot... hey! I should really return that ratty old shirt to its rightful owner. Who would that be? C.J.?

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 18 September 2002 10:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

joey ramone was just wearing a ramones tshirt in the video for i wanna be sedated, so does he sux0r

ron (ron), Sunday, 22 September 2002 05:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

just about everyone i know has the sonic youth "confusion is sex" t shirt. they all seem to accidentally wear them on the same day. alex your friend is a tshirt NAZI! but yeah the motorhead t-shirt trend is pretty annoying, i doubt sporty spice likes them either.

di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 22 September 2002 08:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

dear etiquette alex:
when i go to a fish show i wear fish shoes: is this done?

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 22 September 2002 09:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

So long as your Fish Pants are on, it's all good.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 22 September 2002 10:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Forget not thine fish socks.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 September 2002 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

i doubt sporty spice likes them either
Never underestimate the good taste of popular artists. And don't overestimate the good taste of ultra-hip 'underground' artists either, my respect for quite a lot of artists went down considerably after seeing their all-time top 10.

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Monday, 23 September 2002 12:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...
Anyone notice that Ginuwine is wearing a Clash t-shirt in the new video for Fat Joe's "Crush Tonight"? Think he's a Clash fan?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 November 2002 15:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, but it's not an *ORIGINAL* Clash shirt...it's a weak CANAL STREET JEANS knock-off of the classic kamikaze pilot model. But, y'know, points to him for being original, I suppose. How many other hip-hoppers/r'n'b folk extol the merits of 70's Punks? What's next? Redman in a Public Image Ltd. shirt? ODB in a Killing Joke shirt?

Motel Hell (vassifer), Monday, 11 November 2002 17:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Don't try to wind me up by blaspheming, MH, it won't work.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 November 2002 17:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...
I know it's not okay to wear a band t-shirt if you're in that band, but is it okay if you're only out on a date or married to someone in that band?

http://www.startrek.com/content/galleries/nemesispremiere/images/15.jpg

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 13 December 2002 19:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Guy on the left is giving Austin Powers some competition.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 December 2002 19:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

three weeks pass...
http://www.jcchasez.nu/pics/pics/vibe0203/01.jpg

Am I really supposed to believe that Mr.Timberlake even *KNOWS* who the MC5 are? Please!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 3 January 2003 01:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hate "tour shirts", but I wear band shirts constantly. Almost exclusively. The only rule: don't wear the shirt for the band you're seeing. (I broke that rule once, for Dropdead's 10th anniversary show.) Wearing a shirt for a different genre then what you're going out to see is great. Advertizing that you like hardcore at a hardcore show is not interesting. However, advertizing that you like jazz at a hardcore show might result in meeting some very interesting people. Oddly enough, wearing my "Cray Research" shirt to hardcore shows has never generated a response from anyone. Hmm.

Dave Fischer, Friday, 3 January 2003 05:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

For dudes like me who are mega shu sometimes it helps start a convo i wouldn't have been able to otherwise

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link

granted, "arty kid" in that high school context meant being able to draw a variety of skulls with fine-point sharpie

sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link

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sarahell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:47 (four years ago) link

When The Occasion was still playing around NYC I once saw a friend wearing their tee and said "Nice shirt, what's The Occasion?" I'm still proud of that joke.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:50 (four years ago) link

I have this cool Beach Boys "Black Flag" shirt:

https://www.misswit.net/images/product_image/Black_Flag_w_address.jpg

I love it for lots of reasons, but mostly because the Beach Boys and Blag Flag more or less hailed from the same place. Anyway, I love the Beach Boys but (tbh) have never really listened to Black Flag. I wore the Beach Boys shirt to Trader Joe's once, and the green haired dude working the register complimented me on it, then started talking about ... Black Flag. I kind of nodded along and made small talk, but, like, read the fine print!

My favorite shirt might be this Opeth shirt that some Egyptian fan translated and redesigned into cursive Arabic:

https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/84a36227805587.5636bbbe12a21.jpg

I like it because it's a cool design made cooler the more you know what's going on with it. Might wear it to the show tomorrow, not that anyone will know, because it will be like 7 degrees and no one sells Opeth sweaters or long underwear.

I also love my Grant McLennan shirt, for much the same reason. It's his last name, but designed to look like the Monkees logo. Though I once wore it out and someone thought it was a Phish logo.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link

I wore the Beach Boys shirt to Trader Joe's once, and the green haired dude working the register complimented me on it, then started talking about ... Black Flag.

As a (barely relevant) follow-up, I will note that I have regularly seen Henry Rollins shopping at Trader Joe's.

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link

Was he wearing a shirt?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link

No shirt, no shoes, no service.

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Thursday, 13 February 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link

I had my peak "band shirt to gig" moment a few years back, went to see Mogwai here in Hobart (ass end of the earth) and thought you know what, my CAN "Future Days" t shirt is perfect so I wore that. By a chain of coincidences I ended up going out with Barry Burns and a few friends until about 4am. At one point in the evening Barry squints at my shirt and says, "I fuckin love your shirt man. Actually, I think CAN might be my favourite band of all time." This vindicated the shirt choice dilemma so perfectly that I could turn up to every gig for the rest of my life in a Ralph Lauren polo and still feel cool overall.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 13 February 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link

I've complimented two people wearing t-shirts of a band I am in and neither knew who I was

PaulTMA, Friday, 14 February 2020 00:42 (four years ago) link

I have made lifelong friends by talking to people wearing interesting band shirts at gigs.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 14 February 2020 02:10 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

A teacher at my daughter’s preschool was wearing an Sweetener World Tour T-shirt… I told him “That’s so awesome!,” asked him which of the local shows he went to, etc.

He could not have been less f’in interested in having that conversation…

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

Also: I was at a stand-up show recently where a young woman in the front row was wearing an Iron Maiden T-shirt. The comic asked her - "Are you really a fan, or are you wearing it ironically?" She replied - "No, I'm really a fan." So he asked her what her favorite Maiden album is (they're one of his favorite bands).

There was a really long, awkward pause, and she finally said: "OK... you got me."

He cringed and was like, "You said you were a fan! I wasn't setting you up!"

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link


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