Best Guitarist of All Time

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ha, top down = gary ramon from sundial, steve howe from yes, and steven wilson from no-man/procupine tree/i.e.m.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 17 November 2003 13:54 (twenty years ago) link

If you put the third one first, it would look like some kind of bizarre aging process!

(Where do boys with hair like that exist IRL?)

Citizen Kate (kate), Monday, 17 November 2003 13:56 (twenty years ago) link

Even the title of this thread makes me cringe.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:08 (twenty years ago) link

that's because your tone sucks, and you can't "shred", mark.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:10 (twenty years ago) link

But the best at WHAT, tho?

Jay Dee Sah Mon (Kingfish), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

Hi, I'm the best guitarist of all time.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

and im the amazing B sure.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

We should use our developing skills in genetics to create a master race of super-guitarists! We can cross Manute Bol's gigantic-hands gene with the genes of a spider thus giving him/her/it eight hands! It would be like Vishnu Van Halen!!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:31 (twenty years ago) link

Whatever dudes, I don't need you. I'm already better than all of you put together.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:33 (twenty years ago) link

But you only have two hands!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

Is NA about to unleash the fookeen fyoory?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

http://people.wm.edu/~rrbarr/id02.JPG
Look at me rockin out.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

You can't touch this.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

there is no rock in B Sure's repetoire.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

he is my friend the onion man and he plays two gutars atonce.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-11/493172/guitarist.jpg

the evil docter claw, Monday, 17 November 2003 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

That guy doesn't rock, he's playing sitting down like an old grandma.

NA (Nick A.), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:39 (twenty years ago) link

that is becasue he is control airoplanes with his eyes and he is 107 years old his guiar is very lous thou and he breaks rocks!

the evil docter claw, Monday, 17 November 2003 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

please delete ilx.

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Monday, 17 November 2003 14:44 (twenty years ago) link

no chris b shure! i was only kidding!

the evil docter claw, Monday, 17 November 2003 15:01 (twenty years ago) link

six years pass...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8611997.stm

Former Red Hot Chili Peppers guitarist John Frusciante has been voted the best guitarist of the past 30 years.

Frusciante, who left the group in 2008, beat Guns n' Roses star Slash, Muse's Matt Bellamy and Johnny Marr of The Smiths to the top spot.

Prince, Jack White, Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood and REM's Peter Buck were also in the top 10. But Noel Gallagher, The Edge and Kurt Cobain missed out.

Some 30,000 people took part in BBC 6 Music's Axe Factor online poll.
...

1. John Frusciante - Red Hot Chili Peppers
2. Slash - Guns n' Roses
3. Matt Bellamy - Muse
4. Johnny Marr - The Smiths
5. Tom Morello - Rage Against The Machine
6. Kirk Hammett - Metallica
7. Jonny Greenwood - Radiohead
8. Prince
9. Jack White - White Stripes
10. Peter Buck - REM

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

5. Tom Morello - Rage Against The Machine

poll invalidated

forgive me fada (acoleuthic), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

weird, this isn't on ILM

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

lj is that because you hate ratm or you dont think morello is any good? cuz i would bet he's a better guitar player than matt bellamy.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

lol Peter Buck is a terrible guitarist

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

matt bellamy has pretty good chops - or had, at least

ratm is just too awful to contemplate in any regard, plus dude's guitar-style was so cruddy

the only one who deserves to be in this list is prince and that is truth

forgive me fada (acoleuthic), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean he's a decent enough songwriter and everything, but Peter Buck has like zero chops and nothing close to a signature sound wtf

Jack White is a pretty inventive guitar player, he definitely belongs in any list of this kind

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

really most of this list is okay/understandable but the exceptions are pretty glaring imho

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

remember its bbc 6 music listeners

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Shakey do you agree with lj that tom morello is a crap guitarist with a cruddy style? (and that matt bellamy is better than he is)
No point in arguing that none of them deserve to be in the top 10 guitarists list as that goes without saying.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link

LJ why not give us a rundown on each guitarist in the top 10 of what you think of their guitar playing?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

This should be so simple. Just count raving fanboys and tote up the winner.

Aimless, Friday, 9 April 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link

John squire's better than peter buck!
Noel's a fucking strum by numbers who can't even play some of his own solo's!

not_goodwin, Friday, 9 April 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't think I could identify a single Muse song/have never paid attention to them so have no opinion about them really.

I wouldn't say Morello's crap exactly - he has some mildly amusing tricks - but I don't really have any time for RATM. they're just a car-crash of bad aesthetic decisions.

agreed that Squire is way ahead of most of these jokers. Noel is also a pretty boring guitarist.

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link

No point in arguing that none of them deserve to be in the top 10 guitarists list as that goes without saying.

dude, fucking Prince

forgive me fada (acoleuthic), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I rate Prince pretty highly even if his recent output is dire

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

also, where's bernard butler, great sound and style!

not_goodwin, Friday, 9 April 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

lol Peter Buck is a terrible guitarist

― Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, April 9, 2010

wat?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

come on lj give us your rundown!
(then give us your top 10 guitarists list)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Peter Buck's playing on the first few REM albums is fantastic: folk-rock jangle energised by post-punk. He's a great example of a guitarist who makes the most of his limitations. Some of the stuff on Reckoning is quite ingenious. He's not a 'great' guitar player though, and he's been fairly lazy in recent years.

It's a pretty boring list. People have just chosen their favourite bands. Only Prince really belongs on there. Maybe Jonny Greenwood. I quite enjoy Matt Bellamy's ridiculous playing on a comedy level, but nah. Squier is wanky as fuck and fairly derivative - the rhythm section are the Stone Roses' real.
heroes. Glad the Edge didn't make it on there. Most overrated guitarist of all time.
So who's been missed out? King Sunny Ade, Lee & Thurston, Neil Hagerty, Marnie Stern, Mark Ribot, Andy Gill, Eddie Van Halen, Niles Rogers, Keiji Haino...

Count Palmiro Vicarion (Stew), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

1. John Frusciante - Red Hot Chili Peppers - not heard much RHCP (not a great fan) but dude's clearly pretty good - his work with The Mars Volta is genuinely impressive
2. Slash - Guns n' Roses - good flashy hard-rock guitarist, the occasional killer solo, quite perceptive
3. Matt Bellamy - Muse - has had some stellar moments, especially on Muse's 2nd and 3rd albums, but really isn't as good as his fans think. Better pianist than guitarist
4. Johnny Marr - The Smiths - obviously has a fine technique, and a very good grasp of subtlety and cadence. Tends to be a songwriter's dream rather than his own man, though - has never made me fall out of my seat (aside from on 'Good Morning Beautiful')
5. Tom Morello - Rage Against The Machine - baaaaaaaauuuuugh
6. Kirk Hammett - Metallica - sure Metallica are quite good - he can presumably play some mean guitar
7. Jonny Greenwood - Radiohead - good but not great - again, like Bellamy, best found behind a synth
8. Prince - godlike
9. Jack White - White Stripes - plays grunge and hard-rock equally well, and adds a neat personal stamp - not *amazing* though
10. Peter Buck - REM - cba

forgive me fada (acoleuthic), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

The White Stripes guitar work doesn't sound anything like grunge or 'hard rock' to me. I guess he gets a rap for aping Led Zeppelin, but it's not like he's playing AC/DC (which is the prototypical hard rock sound to me). He's much, uh, noisier than either of those much of the time.

a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

squire was wanky later on, you can't call shoot you down and bye bye badman wanky, tis beautiful guitaring!
agree with the roses rhythm section, they were solid live, but half credit goes to squire for writing bass lines!

not_goodwin, Friday, 9 April 2010 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Cheers LJ, cant wait to see your top 10 best guitarists list!
xp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 April 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Can't believe Noel Gallagher missed out. And then there's Bonehead, and I think Liam plays guitar on one or two tracks too.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 April 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

so i guess according to the BBC acoustic guitar doesnt count then.

i hate that list, but i hate most lists like this so

only 2 on there i agree with are Jack White and Prince (people totally sleep on JW by the way, hes one of the only recent guitar players to make me go completely O_O a good percentage of the time)

HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Friday, 9 April 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I should listen to The White Stripes more tbh - JW does some pretty odd things quite often (lol Icky Thump)

forgive me fada (acoleuthic), Friday, 9 April 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah watching JW play live is pretty remarkable - he jumps from simple pop hooks to noise to fleet-fingered blues riffing with amazing dexterity

Shamandy Warhol (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 April 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I dont play guitar so have no idea how good guitarists are technically, so it's good sometimes to see who people rate highly that aren't the usual vai,satriani,van halen etc (metal guitarists just only ever seem to rate metal guitarists and ignore everything else "oh but he's a jazz guitarist/drummer etc")
Of course this list, is as someone said above, just people voting for the guitarist in their fave band.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 9 April 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Another vote for Jack White being great. I love Lindsay Buckingham too, but I guess he must be too 70s for this list.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 April 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

possible ignored peeps:

Leo Kottke
Rodrigo y Gabriela (really just pick one - my choice is Gabriella tho)

xpost Buckingham is a great choice as well

HOT DISH THYME MACHINE (jjjusten), Friday, 9 April 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Charo otm

Randy Rhoads
Robert Fripp
Robert Johnson

though it's really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBi6hBrpgqQ

solid yet bouncy (herb albert), Saturday, 17 April 2010 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Hendrix is the best sloppiest guitar player, beats any other classic rock guitarist for style alone. He played with such soul and feeling that every wrong note he played sounded right. Kinda wish more black people cared enough to get involved in rock music, seems that right after laying the roots of rock they just lost interest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCQBbgb_Lvo

Moka, Saturday, 17 April 2010 06:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Also:

Bill Frisell
Daniel Lanois
Ry Cooder

Moka, Saturday, 17 April 2010 06:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Davie Allan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgXHchnQtt8

solid yet bouncy (herb albert), Sunday, 18 April 2010 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Hendrix had a direct connection to the Muse

solid yet bouncy (herb albert), Sunday, 18 April 2010 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think anyone's mentioned the amazing slate of early blues guitarists, e.g., blind willie johnson; blind blake; scrapper blackwell; miss. john hurt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxovd6tS8mk

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 18 April 2010 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Grant Green Classic Or Dud?

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E1qCAPJJPE

my favorite noisy guitar album is "Axis: Bold as Love"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link

electric guitar it's obviously Hendrix, no one comes close

acoustic guitar... I submit Elliott Smith:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKAADRzqsc

flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

I don't know if I'd say Steve Vai in a walk, but I think you could at least say he's...VAI-ING FOR THE TOP SPOT!

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

lol psych I hate that guy

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

As far as guy who astonishes me most while still being enjoyable to listen to, it might be either Django Reinhardt or this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqdsiXSfEyQ

like I cannot fathom ever being able to play what he plays no matter how much I practiced

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

As far as pure musicality and touch, I'd say Jim Hall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZF74lQ0kMs

As far as people who expanded the sonic vocabulary of guitar while also just being awesome players, Hendrix is still it for me.

My favorite fingerpicker in terms of sound, style and technique is Rev Gary Davis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fpPgo4Deo4

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link


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