Why is there no thread for The Cure's Disintegration?

The live version of Fascination Street on what I now learn is called Entreat (I spent several pre-Internet years wondering what this was called) is absolutely fantastic, as I remember, although I haven't heard it in ... 16 years - Jesus.

Entreat is fucking amazing. That version of "Prayers For Rain"...!

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god, "entreat"! i'd forgotten about the very existence of that. another thing i must have on a C90 somewhere :/

The version of "Disintegration" on Entreat may be my single favorite Cure song (glad I don't actually have to pick). The tempo is picked up a bit and Robert sounds so desperate. It's lovely.

i also remember being really excited for "Mixed Up", (which came out within a year of Disintegration, I think) - but then being really disappointed by almost all the remixes, especially the ones from Disintegration... but this was mostly made up for by the awesomeness of "Harold and Joe" - the b-side from the "Mixed Up" 12".

I forgot about "Harold and Joe" – it's got that weird bass guitar burp/hiccup hook.

matt2 otm. the version of "disintegration" entreat is vicious! robert gasping for air and shit!

I quite like the electric version of Plainsong featured on the Festival 2005 dvd. Smith's scraped bass strings sound gigantic.

ooh. i've not heard that ...

Probably shocking for most Cure fans, but I love it.
The whole dvd is quite good, in my opinion - first time in years they seemed genuinely intrested in shaking a bit their formula.

interested, even.

I so need to get that Festival DVD.

Mixed Up pissed me off because I had three of the four Disintegration singles already, so I already had those remixes (and I hated the "Lullaby" remix). The dubby "Pictures of You" remix was (and is) completely brilliant, though.

The sequencing of this album from "Prayers For Rain" onwards is one of the most perfect orderings of songs ever put together by a band.
-- HI DERE, Monday, October 29, 2007 9:54 AM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

hay i fixed that for you okay? ^^^

I'm not a big fan of "Closedown".

Fool!

You are not the first person to say this.

I'm not a big fan of "Plainsong" though.

uh

"Plainsong" has never worked live for me. I always think it always sounds thin.

i'd like to hear it live, but can imagine that yes, it could be disappointing.

baaderonixx: wow! really? hey ho. horses, courses etc.

Well I don't dislike it but I've always seen it more as a dirgy intro that might be a bit too pompous for its own good (which is maybe the one thing you could fault the album for).

I'm kinda liking this sludgy metal version though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93vIIKvnFOc

Anyone knows when the next batch of remasters will be released?
(Relevant in this thread as "Disintegration" will obviously be among them)

Why is there no disintegration for The Cure's thread?

"Closedown" is awesome!!

"Closedown" is half-baked.

I was about to protest until I checked my iTunes and found that I'd ripped the whole album except "Closedown"! Hmmm...

your mom is half-baked.

a album that changed everything about me.

not the best album ever made but is my personal number one album of all time.

BTW, that Stone Roses album really did more overall but comes up short at number two.

I've never actually heard Entreat, though the sleeve looks familiar. I will certainly seek it out, it seems like a great idea to hear live versions of these songs.

I've never seen the Cure live, either.

My mom is half-baked which makes her great, hahah, come on.

yeah, this is the best thing they put out alright

the captivating and altogether enchanting mystique pervading this record lends tracks like 'last dance' and 'prayers for rain' a true dreamlike and ethereal quality. each track is approached with more lyrical sincerity and subtlety than smith had been able to muster before or since. fantastically engaging moody pieces and unforgettable singles. perfect mix and wash of instruments.

and i should mention that the last two minutes or so of the title track is pure bliss

Yeah, lyrically, this is really Smith's finest hour.

Smith's finest lyrical hour = Pornography, particularly "A Strange Day", "The Figurehead" and "Siamese Twins".

The Cure have lots and lots of peaks throughout their career. They've done so many things perfectly; Faith is the perfect Faith, "Just Like Heaven" is the perfect "Just Like Heaven," etc. This album is perfect in a certain dark, romantic, cinematic way, and I think that makes it tower over nearly everything else anyone -- including this band -- has ever done.

It's not always my favorite song on the album, but sometimes the sheer awesomeness of "Fascination Street" will leave me slackjawed.

HI DERE 100% OTM a couple of posts up. ESPECIALLY THE FUCKING FIGUREHEAD.

i can lose myself in chinese art and american girls

oh, that's just amazing ;)

no, seriously i love pornography and its lyrical premise. it's just that i wish it didn't quite sound the way it does - very devoid of warmth. which of course was the intention, so how can i be critical? also, 'a strange day' is really magic, genuinely something special. top 5 material, and that's saying something enormous when you're talking the cure's catalogue of songs

Porno is fantastic and Siamese Twins is probably my fave Cure song ever, but I still think that lyrically 'Disintegration' owns it completely. Maybe I'm just more interested these days in mid-life nostalgic ramblings than fits of narcotic fury.

This Entreat thing is fantastic!! Thanks ILM.

Shoutout to the title track on this one.

hey bimble what was the track list for that quiet Black Sabbath comp you mentioned way upthread? That sounds like a unique treat! : )

when's the deluxe edt. of this coming out?.

hey bimble what was the track list for that quiet Black Sabbath comp you mentioned way upthread? That sounds like a unique treat! : )

I made 'We Sail Through Endless Skies: The Quiet Black Sabbath Album', check it.

Tracklist:

1 Embryo (Master of Reality)
2 Supertzar (Sabotage)
3 Orchid (Master of Reality)
4 She's Gone (Technical Ecstasy)
5 Changes (Vol. 4)
6 FX (Vol. 4)
7 Planet Caravan (Paranoid)
8 Fluff (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)
9 It's Alright (Technical Ecstasy)
10 Laguna Sunrise (Vol. 4)
11 Solitude (Master of Reality)

good stuff!

After all these years it's Plainsong pour moi

the opening chords of plainsong evoke some weird shit in me.

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last couple of shows I've seen, title track and Prayers for Rain just didn't hit me, whereas Plainsong and even, like, "Last Dance" and "Closedown" totally do. It sucks when you so want "prayers for raaaaaaaaaaaaaan" to just shatter your goth soul, and nothing happens.

tbh Inbetween Days and yes Caterpillar were the most horrendous things on that

haha totally loved mixed up when it was the only cure album i owned back in elementary school, not even sure where my copy went after I finally heard the originals.

The best ones were left off ("Lets Go To Bed" and "Primary"), but I don't dislike the "Caterpillar" remix.

The album versions of "Why Can't I Be You" and "Hot Hot Hot" are much more exciting than the Mixed Up versions.

Finally holding a copy in my hot little hands, thanks to the wonderful Mrs. via/chicago. Ironic that such a notoriously depressing album would be the bright spot of my otherwise craptastic afternoon.

Happy 25th.

I freakin love the Cure. This was the first Cure album I ever heard, I found the vinyl used at a thrift store, and ended up giving it to a goth girl I had a crush on for Xmas. It's a shame it's such a nice day outside, it almost doesn't feel appropriate to play the album in such weather.

This will be wildly unpopular, but this record doesn't even make my Top 5 for Cure albums.. It's all a bit "samey" to me, but in a far different way than Faith or Seventeen Seconds were. No doubt that Disintegration paints some vast and desolate landscapes, and they are far more sophisticated than those displayed on those earlier somber albums. I mean, the love and longing oozes from beautifully stretched-out themes -- a very new trick for a band a decade in. I guess i like his more tortured material, or, sometimes the more bubble-gum-ey fun stuff.

Don't get me wrong, it was a great new place to move the material and it sold tons of copies, but really pointed to the beginning of the end in my view. For my money, the never were as lethal as they were with Kiss Me.

this weekend on a whim (if slightly inspired by the v tedious discussion of how much jason cooper sucks) i decided to listen to every cure record in order, and hitting disintegration was prob the most dramatic shift in the sequence; it's not really an aesthetic shift i think (it pretty clearly follows up on a lot of the ground staked out on kiss me and besides the most dramatic aesthetic shift in the cure discography is prob still pornography->"let's go to bed"); it's more about scale, where kiss me was a ton of very tonally distinct songs squeezed down into an excitable mercurial space where they could sit together dissonantly and constantly surprise!!! you, every song here is enormous and is almost its own individual space, so that the album feels to me like a series of linked domes in which different weather patterns are preserved

i've been mostly drawn to the expanded entreat on the deluxe reissue bc i've lived with the original album for fifteen years and it differs enough (especially in the shimmering guitar interludes on "pictures of you") that it's like hearing it from a slightly adjusted angle (it's also, as documented upthread, a really excellent performance), which is allowing me to additionally recognize that, even as my tastes have developed a lot since first hearing this at fifteen years old, disintegration and "plainsong" in particular contain so much of what i still value about music, they're like the permanent center of something around which the surface has drifted and warped considerably, and it still enriches and informs that drifting and warping. anyway, <3 u disintegration, i thought faith was maybe my new favorite cure record, but nope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G5YguuNSJg

A fine celebration. :-)

Happy 30th! <eek smiley>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv18HTqbqmw

first 5 minutes of this are a tear-jerker.