Basic Channel Records ... Educate Me, Please.

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jah really.

Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

People also confuse Maurizio as one half of Basic Channel, when it's both of them, just like BC, R&S, or the main street stuff. Chain Reaction and Wackies are another story though...

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm not so into the second batch of rhythm and sound see mi yah remixes that just came out! not feelin the francois k remix--so boring!--and the others are pretty good but not mindblowing. i guess the villalobos/delay/tikiman action on smy remixes #1 just blew me out of the water, and now it's tough to settle for less!

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link

nah, the second one is just crap. boring is a very generous assessment of the FK remix! I wonder what they were thinking. very possibly the worst BC family 12" ever.

a, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:43 (eighteen years ago) link

the substance mix is ok but the FK is awful. he's really on a roll with the bad remixes these days.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:48 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, the FK remix is so unimaginative and unoriginal--it sounds like he phoned it in. for someone who knows as much about dub and house music as francois k, it seems almost inconceivable that he'd be that perfunctory-sounding with a rhythm and sound remix, of all things. you'd think he'd really put his heart into something like that. but maybe all that encyclopedic knowledge gets in the way.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:49 (eighteen years ago) link

then again, do the words "francois k remix" really excite anyone in the year 2006?

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:50 (eighteen years ago) link

he has a pretty solid dj night, though. then again, there's not much happening dj-wise on monday nights in new york so maybe he doesn't have much competition. i saw rhythm and sound at francois k's deep space night maybe a year ago and it was great.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 06:53 (eighteen years ago) link

he def still has a lot of cache as a DJ, headlines the main room of Fabric a couple of times a year. must steer clear of playing his own productions out...

a, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 07:15 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.wavemusic.com/wave-label/9
xposts

blunt (blunt), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i havent even brought myself to listen to bmx-2

where is the autechre remix for bmx-3
where is the merzbow remix for bmx-28

harshaw (jube), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link

wtf? no need to slag FK, he's done plenty of great work, past and present. perhaps the quality control issue has something to do with the high quantity of jobs he gets (relative to remix work by younger bucks).

meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Thursday, 30 March 2006 02:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not dissing his past work.
high quantity of jobs regardless, this is a Rhythm and Sound remix, and it's FUCKING AWFUL. no defence.

a, Thursday, 30 March 2006 06:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh fuck, this stuff is incredible.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:11 (eighteen years ago) link

where does all the air in the sound come from? Something to do with compression?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:15 (eighteen years ago) link

sound is the compression of air, not the other way around.

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:17 (eighteen years ago) link

ps basic channel is the VU of dance music and i wish they'd go away forever!

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not too big on the first R&S remix ep ... it's overly murky to the point where all the tracks sound sloppy to me ... I guess this means I shouldn't be in a hurry to hear the second ep.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:36 (eighteen years ago) link

BTW, my BC POO is "Prescence", or maybe "Octaedre".

Correcting myself -- I meant "Octagon".

VU = BC makes a lot of sense, except for the part about going away forever (on both sides of the equation).

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:39 (eighteen years ago) link

this is good too

http://www.kompaktkiste.de/cd/tresor/tresor200.jpg

smokemon (eman), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link

yes i've listened to that a few times in the last month. it's great.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Shimmering shimmering air.

It would be nice to have digital versions of the full 12"s.

hector (hector), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

ya it's like hawtin but you can still recognize the bits and morsels

harshaw (jube), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

(speaking about tresor 200)

harshaw (jube), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.basicchannel.com/

i like their site because of the info on a lot of the wackies / replay releases, which helps since liner notes are non-existent.

smokemon (eman), Friday, 31 March 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know how BC achieved their amazing sound, but years ago a friend told me they transferred each track to analogue tape and overdubbed each new track. Anyone know any better?

Telegram Sam, Friday, 31 March 2006 03:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I heard years ago from The Advent (remember them?) that one member of the BC crew was related to the Bismarcks and that they were therefore super rich and had used family wealth to accrue a v. large collection of antique analogue synths that explained the amazing warmth of their records. True or not it's a lovely tale.

Treblekicker (treblekicker), Friday, 31 March 2006 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

ha! dude has an aristocratic air about definitely.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 31 March 2006 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link

...about him.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 31 March 2006 12:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think anything is truly known about their production techniques, they are very protective of them. And the one or two interviews they've done in their career they've asked not to be quoted.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 31 March 2006 13:27 (eighteen years ago) link

there've been some more interviews the past few years (i know because i did one of them, with that 'no quotes' rule)...they seemed wary of the mythmaking and wanted to open up a bit.

Omar (Omar), Friday, 31 March 2006 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
anyone heard this yet?

Burial Mix BMX 3
Rhythm & Sound: SMY Remixes #3 (D 12") @ EUR 8,00 #50885
(3rd in a series of remixes w/ rmxs by Sleeparchive, Vainqueur &
Hallucinator - TIP!)

manuel (manuel), Thursday, 27 April 2006 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

This looks fantastic, when does it come out? The Sleeparchive remix is excellent, at least judging by one live version of it I heard online. I have high hopes for the Vainqueur as well.

Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 27 April 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

It's hard to get excited about this even though I love this guys. But it has already been established that I am an Old Man.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 April 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

oooh vainqueur!

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 27 April 2006 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

oh my word!!!!! my prayers have been answered :

http://www.boomkat.com/promotion.cfm?id=16

adam kreisel, Thursday, 27 April 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

oh my word!!!!! my prayers have been answered

ILM minimal/dub massive files for bankruptcy. :)

Omar (Omar), Thursday, 27 April 2006 20:26 (seventeen years ago) link

could someone who is familar with the wackies / basic replay stuff give us a rundown. i got the keith hudson reissue and i wasn't blown away ... in fact, i've barely listened to it and i always reach for "the keith hudson affair" or "rasta communication" first.

but so much of that stuff is sooooo tempting. junior delahaye? african roots? love joys? creation dub? they all look sooooo cooooool.

i guess i should at least get up on horace andy's "dance hall style".

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Friday, 28 April 2006 05:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Creation Dub!!! So...cloudy?

Omar (Omar), Friday, 28 April 2006 06:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually I meant Nature's Dub.

Omar (Omar), Friday, 28 April 2006 07:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Which Keith Hudson did you get? They reissued two of his and the better one is "Playing It Cool, Playing It Right." I also like Jah Batta "Argument" and the Horace Andy you mentioned. What I've heard of the Roots Underground "Tribesman Assault" and Wayne Jarrett "Showcase" was excellent. I need to get on some of those dub albums but theres so many.

/me aaaaaaaaaa (eman), Friday, 28 April 2006 11:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Wackies - S/D

/me aaaaaaaaaa (eman), Friday, 28 April 2006 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Hudson's Flesh of My Skin Blood of My Blood is now probably somewhere in my favorite 100 albums of all time.

The recently reissued Dub Unlimited is baaaad.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

you have a top 100?

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Friday, 28 April 2006 12:51 (seventeen years ago) link

If I had to come up with one today, it would probably be in there.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 28 April 2006 13:08 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
SMY remixes #4.

TIP!

lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Sunday, 28 May 2006 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I bought that domina 12" 3 days ago, I love it.

Thomas Mehlt (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Sunday, 28 May 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
MEMO FRANCOIS K

RE: SEE MI YAH REMIX

DEAR SIR,
YOU SUCK

VAHID

JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Saturday, 22 July 2006 06:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh? What's he done?

Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 22 July 2006 06:09 (seventeen years ago) link

vahid you need this

http://www.basicchannel.com/images/records_297/w-1716/1722a.jpg

Lmaoborghini (eman), Saturday, 22 July 2006 12:09 (seventeen years ago) link

perfect bc weather imo

z_tbd, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:14 (ten months ago) link

25 years ago I was really into this stuff but always preferred the Chain Reaction side of things. And of that, only still listen today to the Porter Ricks Biokinetics album. When I sold the bulk of my CD collection the buyer didn’t want my BC or Chain Reaction CDs so I have it for free to Wonder Book in Frederick Maryland for some lucky person to find.

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:15 (ten months ago) link

“I gave it for free”

Every post of mine is an expression of eternity (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:16 (ten months ago) link

bc-04 quadrant

i think of this one as the pop one now. partly because it’s the sampler, short tracks for diverse moods. classic dub techno (1.1.i) broken chain reaction stuff (1.1.iii) total zonk (1.1.iiii). but also because it has the funkiest track of the whole series (1.1.iii) ultimate dj weapon for any club, warehouse, party, wine bar, video stream, whatever

bc-09 phylyps trak ii

like m-04, m-05, m-06 and maybe m-07 this one is also in the pop category because if the tempo is right you can magically make it work in just about any house / techno set, you can pop in and out at any point or play the whole damn thing and it will sound good. absolutely perfect record.

and that’s just the b-side! the a-side is maybe just another mix of phylyps trak but with this relentless chord hit that pushes it to the edge of hysteria. not quite as versatile plus there’s a break you got to look out for at 8 mins that stops things dead in their tracks

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:21 (ten months ago) link

you’re missing out, you should revisit these

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:22 (ten months ago) link

bc-06 quadrant dub

okay so this one is the whole reason i revisited this thread. idk why but i never really gave this one a good listen. in my mind it sits very much in the middle of the series. it’s not as immediate as the club bangers (quadrant iii, phylyps trak ii, octagon, phylyps trak i) and it’s not meditative as the deep space drifters (presence, radiance, lyot reshape)

on the other hand there’s a few in the series that for whatever reason make no impression on me, either too monotonously tracky (enforcement), too big room trancey (hyperprism / infinition), too billowy and formless inna echocord stylee (basic reshape), too much a rehash / retread of what was done before (q “loop”)

unlike those, something kept bringing me back to quadrant dub. the warmth, maybe? so when the recently repressed most of these, i grabbed fresh copies of 4, 5, 6, 7 and 9 (for some reason “radiance” was not repressed, but this is the other reason i am revisiting this) … i put on and … there’s voices? is that singing?

when i first put it on i’d had the windows down, there were kids leaving a game at the high school across the street (lacross playoffs maybe?) and i thought it was the music from their cars maybe mixing with my music? but no, there’s definitely a male diva down in the mix below the chords.

this is a revelation! how did i never notice this? has this always been here? obviously it has, but who is this singning? is it from a chez damier track? is it andy caine? was i only ever hearing the a side and ignoring the b side? or was i only ever hearing the b side (the vinyl sides i/ii seem reversed compared to how they’re presented on apple music)

anyway wow. just goes to show never know when you’re going to be surprised by something you never noticed in a track you’ve thought you’ve “known” for 25+ years

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:46 (ten months ago) link

really really really really reaaaaaaaallly good

bc04 q1.1
bc06 quadrant dub
bc09 phylyps trak ii

really really really really good but sometimes not in the mood

bc03 lyot rmx
bc05 inversion / presence
bc08 radiance

merely really really really good

bc02 phylyps track
bc07 octagon / octaedre

i never listen to these

bc01 enforcement
bcbr basic reshape
bccd q loop
bcqd hyperprism / infinition
cd compilations and mixes

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:56 (ten months ago) link

to sum up, i would say my respect for the classics has only increased and although on balance i still probably love maurizio singles and select chain reaction singles more i am ashamed for ever having criticized any aspect of basic channel releases #2-9

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:58 (ten months ago) link

M series is so timeless, I was bumping those in the car really loudly during the last winter time

brimstead, Saturday, 20 May 2023 18:09 (ten months ago) link

i am never not in the mood for m4, m5, m6

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 18:12 (ten months ago) link

Great (re)assessments of BC tracks! Quadrant dub: there really are vocals among the haze, as the 12" is versioning Round One's "I'm Your Brother" 12" on Main Street, another BC offshoot label, that has vocals by Andy Caine.

jvc, Saturday, 20 May 2023 20:57 (ten months ago) link

ah excellent thx. i actually have that one and always play the ron & chez “chicago twisted mix”, must be why i figured it was either a chez damier track or an andy caine track (it was both!)

the late great, Saturday, 20 May 2023 22:30 (ten months ago) link

It's been a long, long time since I listened to the entire BC series (or the M-series for that matter). I think that Octagon/Octaedre would still be my jam (as it was 16!?! years ago), but I guess I should hear everything again to be sure.

I always thought that Phylyps Trak was overrated. I assume they wanted at least one, no doubt, peak-time club banger to come out of this project, just to prove they could do it while being faithful (kind of) to their overall aesthetic. Phylyps Trak II is much better.

Re: Presence and not always being in the mood to stare into the void: I totally get it. These days, I feel that way about some of these tracks too.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 21 May 2023 14:21 (ten months ago) link


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