TS: Mekons vs. Gang of Four

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the lyrics [of "Only Darkness Has the Power"] are entirely ripped from "The Locked Room" by Paul Auster

Wow, I had no idea. Thanks. ...Yeah, the Executioner's Last Songs show was great, very much an autobiographical revue; and on a Mekon-related fashion note, I must find (or possibly even try to make if need be) a dress exactly like the one Ms. Timms had on, though I cannot sing "Long Black Veil" or anything else.

One wonders what may be next for Mekons, with the backward-looking Punk Rock their latest release and all of Langford's other activity.

mekons + gang of four = delta 5
so im just gonna say delta 5.

Though I can't honestly say that Delta 5 were better or even more important to me than those other bands, I am very glad to have the reissue.

This was posted elsewhere on ILM a few weeks ago, but what the hell: Gang of Four covering "Rosanne," Chicago 1979; the distaste with which Jon King snaps the line about "soppy romancin'" cracks me up every time.
http://s57.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17FHT412LF2H93UH7LSMB6CYBT

xero (xero), Monday, 20 February 2006 02:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Fewer derivative bands inspired by the Mekons ...

Mekons. Always the Mekons.

Edward Bordas (edb), Monday, 20 February 2006 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I must find (or possibly even try to make if need be) a dress exactly like the one Ms. Timms had on, though I cannot sing "Long Black Veil" or anything else.

Oh man, she had the greatest outfit ever. I want her crumpled black hat.

clotpoll (Clotpoll), Monday, 20 February 2006 06:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I say Mekons, if only because they ripped U2 in "Blow Your Tuneless Trumpet."

Plus I saw them on their farewell tour at CBGBs and they were fucking great live.

Martin Schneider (priceyeah), Monday, 20 February 2006 08:12 (eighteen years ago) link

farewell tour

Didn't get the memo. :((((

xero (xero), Monday, 20 February 2006 08:41 (eighteen years ago) link

There wasn't a farewell tour, there was a 25th Anniversary tour.

TRG (TRG), Monday, 20 February 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

quantity (mekons) VS quality (gang of four)

sinking a couple pints of of every beer on draught in the bar VS sipping a few shots of top shelf whisky...so gang of four 4 me.

now GANG OF FOUR vs THREE JOHNS might be a tougher pick (and makes more sonic sense as a comparison to my aged ears).

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 20 February 2006 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, that was my reasoning too, such as it was.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Monday, 20 February 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

There wasn't a farewell tour, there was a 25th Anniversary tour

GOOD!

quantity (mekons) VS quality (gang of four)

Point taken; but if you make it about good album:crap album ratios, it's Mekons again for me.

GANG OF FOUR vs THREE JOHNS

Much as I loved "Death of the European," that'd have to be Gang of Four. (Just listened to "I Parade Myself" again ... is that some quality 90s dance-rock sleaze or what.)

Didn't Steve Goulding play drums for both bands?

xero (xero), Monday, 20 February 2006 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Another reason I've always loved the Mekons is that they capture the anthemic, globetrotting, political aspects of the Clash but - to paraphrase - they cut the crap. The Mekons may be the most important least self-important band ever.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 20 February 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, absolutely. If this were Mekons vs. Clash? Mekons, no hesitation WHATSOEVER. The Clash were well-intentioned, thoroughly homosocial dunderheads infatuated with glory and, though I liked 'em well enough when I was 17, most of their music just seems dull as hell now. And Clash vs. Gang of Four? Please. (Though this was good -- Strummer to interviewer: "Don't talk about Clash and Gang of Four. The two bands don't belong in the same sentence." Interviewer: "What kind of sentence do Gang of Four belong in?" Strummer: "A nice long prison sentence." Strummer 1, Go4 0.)

xero (xero), Monday, 20 February 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Didn't Steve Goulding play drums for both bands?

Wasn't the Three Johns drummer a um (clears throat) drum machine?

The Mekons may be the most important least self-important band ever.

well I'd say supplying a reading list w/yr lyric sheet, asking "Rock & Roll" to answer for its sins etc qualifies as self-important!

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

"both bands" = Mekons and Gang of Four

xero (xero), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

OK I should've figured that out...Hugo Burnham played drums in Gof4. Steve Goulding played in The Rumour IIRC before the Mekons.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, but I believe Goulding also played in Gang of Four post-Hugo.

xero (xero), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Or "Gang of Four" post- and pre-Hugo, if you want to be precise about it.

xero (xero), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

you're right...

A short biography by Steve Goulding himself:
I was born and raised in South London, England. I left school at 18, and worked in a publishing house and also house-cleaning for a couple of years. I played with bassist Andrew Bodnar in a pub rock band called Bontemps Roulez until we joined the Rumour, later Graham Parker's band, in 1975. After the band split in 1981, I played with Garland Jeffreys on his Escape Artist tour, having previously recorded the ESCAPE ARTIST album with him. Around this time I also played with David Bowie on the Johnny Carson Show at the invitation of GE Smith, who was the guitarist on Garland's album and was playing with Bowie at the time. A stint with the British band the Associates followed, as did a succession of European TV appearances with Roxy Music. A world tour with Lene Lovich led to an audition for Gang Of Four, who I played with for around 18 months until they split.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

don't mind me I'm a dick sometimes ;)

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link

That was not even a blip on the ILM Dickishness-o-Meter(tm).

xero (xero), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve Goulding also played on "Let's Go to Bed" by the Cure. And "Watching the Detectives."

x-post Yeah, but I always thought the reading recommendations and other liner note goodness on Mekons albums were kind of "for further research" bonuses, as much a pomo wink as Langford's cover art. Sure, some Mekons albums include bibliographies, but I figured that was not so much self-importance at work as it was the band's modest, honest eagerness to simply credit sources of inspiration.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Wow, I've never seen this: Gang of Four, New Year's Eve 1980, with Mekons Jon and Tom and backing vox:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC7B6FmC0AA#at=59

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC7B6FmC0AA#at=59

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

https://www.discogs.com/Mekons-FUN-90/release/5196177

Mekons vs Baggy Dance Beats : i had forgotten just how fantastic this was

mark e, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

Plus it's got their great Band cover.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42WnZxLYWrM

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link

indeed.
love it.

mark e, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link


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