― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, I'll give you this: Boces < SYOTOS
But no way to this: SYOTOS < Deserter's Songs
― dan. (dan.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
Eric B and Rakim might hold true. I think the first 3 songs of their second album are their strongest, but then the album sounds rushed. Their first was a collection of a couple of singles, and the album...so it's a bit disjointed - but if you didn't hear those singles prior...
EPMD fucking mumble over Zapp. I like thier first few singles, but lost interest quick.
Run DMC's debut changed my life. Their 2nd album seemed to me like the first marketed piece of Hip-Hop...like, let's cash in on our image and let's make a song for every situation or whatever. That damned reggae song and such. I think the intro on that album is the best thing on it. Raising Hell was mostly a stronger marketing album, with some superb Rick Rubin driven tracks next to some Rick Rubin driven novelties. Their 4th album is sorely overlooked. Beats to the Rhyme is incredible.
Fat Boys...
I think this back-and-forth can easily stir up more thoughts on Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons marketing and visions than anything else. Rick's use of the 808 is the cornerstone of Bass music. Russell's marketing schemes made Hip-Hop known, but tarnished many of the acts. Beastie Boys, Fat Boys, and Run DMC all fall into this to some degree.
Grandmaster Flash's work is before my time, so I just buy it and lisen and sing along and forge no opinions about its relevancy.
No more bait taking for a bit. I need a bite to eat.
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― ZionTrain (ZionTrain), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― TV's Mr Noodle Vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link
They had more than one album?
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Liz Phair's most recent album is either her best one or her second best one (after the debut), depending on what my mood is that day.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Totally disagree with Motley Crue.
Surprised no one's said Elvis yet.
― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Nope.
Rum, Sodomy > If I Should Fall >> Red Roses >> Peace And Love >>> the "rump" Pogues as an album band
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Not Thaat Chuck, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Not Thaat Chuck, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link
(xpost)
― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link
"Boys for Pele" better than "From The Choirgirl Hotel" and "To Venus and Back"? Nope.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Not Thaat Chuck, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh yeah, also: Whitechocolatespaceegg > Whip-Smart
I retract my enthusiastic endorsement of Douglas' nod to Liz Phair on the basis of fact. In my defense, I can only say that I was beitched by the magnitude of the post-Exile drop-off.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link
I like Choirgirl OK, but I just don't think it's got the goods to beat, say, "Blood Roses," "Professional Widow" and "Marianne." Although the Choirgirl-era b-sides are my second-favs, so I guess I could give you that.
― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link
Dom P OTFM. And I'm sticking to my guns on this one.
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Counting Crows
― Aaron St. John (StJohn), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link
Well the quality difference between the debut and Shout at the Devil is negligible, but beginning with Theater of Pain the downhill slide began gaining speed.
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, the last Liz Phair is probably my favorite or it's the one I listen to most frequently anyway.
― dan. (dan.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link
I was going to disclaim that with something, but fuck it, that's a close to an objective statement about music as I'm gonna get.
― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:22 (eighteen years ago) link
Nobody would claim "Ummagumma" was better than anything that followed, would they?
Also, I expected to see Oasis here. It is of course way wrong, as their first album is still their worst IMO :-)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link
doesn't work. One Foot in the Grave is his best album
― daglo, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Singles-wise, sure. But I completely blow my argument because "Wild Side" came out between them and is one of the band's finest moments.
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Poison might work, though.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link
motorheadpet shop boys
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Ridiculous. Very is better than everything before or after.
― john'n'chicago, Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― brianiac (briania), Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link
This is a good thread. I'm w/ pappawheelie re: run dmc's 4th album, "beats to the rhyme" is probably my favorite rdmc track.
― deej., Thursday, 19 May 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link
If Suede hadn’t reformed, they would have worked (I’m not fond of their 3 latest albums but at least one is better than their 5th... and apparently many people consider them great).
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 04:43 (five years ago) link
Strongly co-signing on Mercury Rev.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 08:23 (five years ago) link
Beat Happening
― nostormo, Monday, 14 January 2019 05:25 (five years ago) link
otm
― flappy bird, Monday, 14 January 2019 05:52 (five years ago) link
Oh it's decline right..sorry Quite the opposite for Beat Happening.
― nostormo, Monday, 14 January 2019 07:14 (five years ago) link
I still have time for Revolution Come and Gone more than anything else in their back catalog so yeah, quite the opposite
― doug watson, Monday, 14 January 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link
Pink Floyd
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 January 2019 20:42 (five years ago) link
flatline is no decline
― mark s, Monday, 14 January 2019 20:43 (five years ago) link
I like Animals more than WYWH or DSotM. And even though I love Syd, I think Echoes is my favorite.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 14 January 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link
Pink Floyd only works if you start counting at Meddle for me. And then yes.
― akm, Monday, 14 January 2019 20:59 (five years ago) link
And when I wrote Echoes, I obv meant including the other half of Meddle haha.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 14 January 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link
This is more or less true for most bands. Only a few reach a peak at the end. Immediately springing to mind: Talk Talk.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 14 January 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link
The 3rd and the Mortal
― pomenitul, Saturday, 19 January 2019 16:43 (five years ago) link