King Sunny Ade and his Afrobeat orchestra on tour (and on disc)

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Thanks Keith. Synchro System is an album I still listen to regularly after, what is it, 20 years or so.

Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Thursday, 7 April 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Nice interview Peter.

I wonder if Matt C. caught one of the Wisconsin shows?

Steve-k (Steve K), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link

King Sunny's heading to Chicago and Minneapolis next...

steve-k, Friday, 8 April 2005 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Anybody see any of the midwest shows?


Sasha Frere-Jones has the King Sunny Synchro Series compilation thing on his top 10 list now.

Steve-k (Steve K), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I was miserably sick this weekend, but got drugged up and went to an hour of Sunday night's show at the Cabooze in Minneapolis at around midnight, timing it so that I caught all Sunny Ade music before the "spraying" portion of his set began--the least exciting part, musically, though this was the first time I saw white folks get up there with stacks of bills (the effect of the PR campaign?).

I loved the guitar, as usual, and Ade's dancing. There was no way I could miss this.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 09:02 (nineteen years ago) link

At the music forum on africaonline.com the King Sunny thread has lots of postings about Congolese musicians visiting Nigeria, and their influence. It's interesting despite the disdainful attitude they have there for non-Congolese music.

steve-k, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Anybody else see him on tour and want to share your thoughts?

steve-k, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Left Coasters, how was it?

steve-k, Friday, 29 April 2005 13:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I bet the final show in New York will be great...

steve-k, Friday, 29 April 2005 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Copyright 2005 Los Angeles Times
All Rights Reserved
Los Angeles Times

April 23, 2005 Saturday

POP BEAT;
It's OK to toss cash at royalty;
King Sunny Ade doesn't mind if you shower him with greenbacks. In fact, he'll play until 4 a.m. to show his gratitude.

by Richard Cromelin, Times Staff Writer

DATELINE: SOLANA BEACH, Calif.

The musicians in King Sunny Ade's band have many talents. They can play his polyrhythmic pieces for hours with unflagging spirit and precision. They look sharp in their patterned Nigerian garments. They're able to dance when called upon and are always ready with an infectious smile.

And on Wednesday they showed their skill at scooping up the money that fluttered to the floor of the stage during the group's concert at the Belly Up Tavern here. This abundant currency was presented to singer-guitarist Ade by audience members who approached him as he played and, with great ceremony, either showered the greenbacks over him like confetti or stuck them to his perspiring forehead.

This custom, known as "spraying" or "dashing," is rarely enacted outside of its African setting, but Ade, one of the biggest international stars in African music for more than two decades, is including it as an added attraction on his first U.S. tour in several years. The opening act is an exponent of eastern Nigeria's highlife music, Prince Obi Osadebe.

"A lot of people really wanted to see how we normally do it in Nigeria, in our parties and Nigerian concerts," Ade, 58, said backstage before Wednesday's show. "Many people said they saw it on TV or a video ... so my management said I should include it .... We started doing it and everybody really enjoys it. It has been going very well."

The tour will stop tonight at the Vanguard in Hollywood, where Ade will introduce locals to another regular feature of his performances back home: He'll play until 4 in the morning.

The spraying and the "praise singing" -- in which the performer reciprocates by singing flattering words about his benefactors -- are part of the musical/social fabric in Nigeria. At parties held for naming ceremonies, weddings, business openings and other occasions, people's prominence is often measured by the exchange.

"It's a sign of respect, and it's also a means of getting the singer to sing your praise," says CC Smith, editor of the Los Angeles-based world music magazine the Beat. "It actually is a demonstration of status -- showing off your wealth makes you the big man or top dog in the society. The more you can give away, the richer you are considered. And then, of course, the singer starts singing your praises for all to hear.

"I've been to shows where they've done nothing but. People were virtually lining up to throw money on the singer, and the whole song was talking about whoever was currently pasting the money on his head."

At the Belly Up, the spraying began about halfway through the nearly two-hour show, when a man in an African-design shirt danced up to Ade and began tucking bills into his collar and pressing them against his head. Three women soon joined him, and they remained on stage and danced after bestowing their cash.

Ade stood at the side of the stage and faced them as he began the praise singing. At Nigerian parties the singer knows a lot about the people he's addressing, but here it appeared more impromptu. At one point one of the women whispered to a backup singer, who in turn said something to Ade, presumably some information for him to incorporate in his lyrics.

Ade sings in the Yoruba language, so while the words themselves might have been foreign to the predominantly non-African audience, the intimacy and spontaneity of this moment were mesmerizing, all the more so because it was delivered with dazzling rhythmic complexity and precision.

That's been the hallmark of King Sunny Ade's juju music for decades, and his sound is as fresh and vibrant in 2005 as it was when he made his initial splash in the U.S.

At the Belly Up, the size of the stage limited his lineup to 14 players (with three vivacious female dancers occasionally squeezing in to shake their stuff), but with a phalanx of drums behind three electric guitars and keyboards, they mounted the same rippling, intricate, effervescent kind of grooves that first endeared him to Western audiences.

Ade was already a star in Nigeria when his fame began to spread in Europe in the early '80s. He signed with Island Records and was presented to the world as an emissary of a great Third World music, somewhat in the tradition of Bob Marley.

Ade wasn't political like Marley, but his influence has been profound on the international spread of African music and the growth of world music as a vital genre.

Though his prominence here faded after the initial wave, when he and his band headlined such venues as the Hollywood Palladium and the Greek Theatre, Ade has nothing but good memories about those times.

"I'd been longing to let the whole world hear my music, juju music, and it was like a door opener for me from Island Records," he said backstage Wednesday. "It was like a new thing to the Western world, and they gave me an opportunity to play it live....

"They opened the door not only for me but for other African musicians and all African music.... And the people here are still liking it."

steve-k, Friday, 29 April 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

love this dude

sanskrit, Saturday, 29 September 2007 04:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I think various old efforts of his are being reissued

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 September 2007 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Was there ever a proper Search and Destroy on King Sunny Ade?

If not, lets.

I've loved everything I've heard, but I don't know what any of it was as i lost it all in hard-drive crash. The Juju Music LP on Island just arrived in the post, as that seemed a good place to start.

Jamie T Smith, Friday, 2 November 2007 12:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Synchro System rules too.

stirmonster, Friday, 2 November 2007 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link

The Classic Years *really* rules, esp. for mindnumbingly wonderful psychedelic guitar work

outdoor_miner, Friday, 2 November 2007 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I've got a few of those twofer original-album reissues with the rounded CD cases, and those are nice, though I haven't parsed them fully. (I also got them years ago and haven't really gone back yet.)

Anyone heard that new "Classic Years Vol. 2" thing on Shanachie? Been thinking about picking that one up.

Matos W.K., Friday, 2 November 2007 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

(rounded corners on the CD cases, I mean; the CD cases themselves aren't round.)

Matos W.K., Friday, 2 November 2007 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

So I think it was probably the Best of the Classic Years album that I had, and it was great.

Synchro System rules too.

Yeah, but I'm not sure which versions I've heard - and there appear to be three totally different Synchro System albums too.
http://www.discogs.com/release/661002
http://www.discogs.com/release/1085671
http://www.sternsmusic.com/disk_info/CDAS89703

Which one(s) do you have?

Jamie T Smith, Friday, 2 November 2007 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Playing a bunch of dates with Femi Kuti, including an outdoor amphitheater in Minneapolis June 30.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 06:13 (fourteen years ago) link

seattle too but no femi kuti sad

nescafe all star (jergins), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link

he's at the Showbox at the Market 6/16. NYC gets these dudes separately, but both free and outdoors.

"the whale saw her" (gabbneb), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Separately for DC too, both with ticket prices. Interestingly for DC, King Sunny's gonna play at the 930 Club, and when I first saw him years ago it was at an all-night show at the same location, but when it was called the WUST Radio Music Hall. An awesome show. The publicist e-mailed me that they might add some long late-night gigs in locations where there are more African immigrants.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Fixed version of broken link above:
http://www.citypages.com/2005-04-06/music/here-comes-the-sun-king/all

About to interview him again...

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Psyched to be seeing him in a few weeks at Winnipeg Folk Fest. Looks like a crazy busy tour. Still can't believe he didn't get a weekend slot; relegated to next-to-last act of Thursday night, to make way for didgeridoo-sampling-techno-hippie Xavier Rudd.

Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 18 June 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

saw him at bonnaroo, fucking great show, late afternoon, dancing under a tree

rosario speedwagon (nickalicious), Thursday, 18 June 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Seeing him at the Triple Door, the swankest venue in Seattle, with amazing sound--can't WAIT. (Was even more psyched about Orchestra Baobab, but I'd be out of town for that anyway, plus they canceled.)

Matos W.K., Friday, 19 June 2009 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link

They just reissued an early 2000s cd of his, to plug on this tour.

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 June 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

One of the greatest finds of the last two years: a pristine vinyl copy of the OOP Aura. It's got some of the most buoyant electro-grooves I've ever heard. Please don't stop the music.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Who has seen O.C. and Stiggs?!

Synchro-System is the best.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 04:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I am going to see him on Wednesday ... can't f'n wait

Stormy Davis, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 05:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I enjoyed him lots tonight but man I wish he'd actually played guitar instead of faintly picking behind the female dancers. Then again I left after he took off stage during encore one, so maybe I missed something.

Matos W.K., Tuesday, 30 June 2009 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Looking forward to the DC show July 17th. Spring and summer has been great in my area for live African music--Vieux Farka Toure; Amadou & Mariam; Samba Mapangala,

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Who has seen O.C. and Stiggs?!
I have. I really enjoyed it the first time I saw it, too, but I guess it helped to be in a room full of friends and drunk. I tried to watch it again by myself a couple of years later and it was just unwatchable. But that's not King Sunny Ade's fault. I picked up AURA for four dollars a couple of months ago and it is good. I like Juju Music best, though.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I wish I loved Juju Music a bit more than I do. The talking drum, the skittery electric guitar, the synth, and esp. the steel guitar are all excellent, but my old early 90s CD just seems a bit thin, and doesn't envelop me and kick my ass the way, say, the best Fela discs do. I'm only a bit familiar with Aura and Synchro-System, and after that nada (and I actually sold back my copy of Live at Hollywood Palace.)

What do i need -- older, newer?

Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Older -- get Best of the Classic Years

Garri$on Kilo (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

It's not going to kick your ass in the way Fela does, exactly -- Juju is a bit more ethereal and less driving and angry than afrobeat.

Garri$on Kilo (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

is it a 90s cd of 70s music, or a 90s cd of 90s music?

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

My 90s CD? The "Juju Music" album, and i gotta confess, I don't know when that was recorded.

Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

And by kick my ass, I mean I'm hoping for a recording that compares with seeing him in concert mid 80s: about 25 musicians onstage, mad polyrhythms and that ethereal, swirly steel floating thru.

Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I dunno, I have the mp3 version of Juju Music and it def kicks my ass. Esp on headphones.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

This comp is pretty good, Dan.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

btw juju is ideal stuff to buy via emusic, since the tracks are usually around 20 mins and you can get a whole album for only a few credits.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

What years are covered on the Shananchie label "Classic Years" one? The Juju King one covers the early 80s.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

IIRC the Classic Years one is almost exclusively 70s, which I think was just a period of better-sounding recording and amp technology for the purposes of music like Juju. Juju Music was an early 80s album on Island -- the one that I think sort of launched him as an intercontinental, as opposed to just African superstar. I don't enjoy it as much as the 70s stuff.

Garri$on Kilo (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I've never heard the seventies stuff, must investigate.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

It's really good, but I actually prefer the electronic trippiness that was added on Juju music ("prefer" is really too strong of a word. they're both awesome)

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

The Stevie Wonder harmonica on the title track of Aura is the perfect retro finish to a futurist groove.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Hello, currently stay in d UK and am a huge fan of king sunny ade. How can i get to buy a copy of his tour videos? Cheers!!!

tbourne, Thursday, 2 July 2009 05:15 (fourteen years ago) link

If you're in London, tbourne, you could worse than take a trips to Sterns http://www.sternsmusic.com/about.php

Daniel Giraffe, Thursday, 2 July 2009 07:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyone know if KSA's current tour takes him to Europe? I can't seem to find any tour info on his myspace

Daniel Giraffe, Thursday, 2 July 2009 07:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry about the grade, and you not thinking about how hard it would be, but I like the idea.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

But yeah a juju thread would be ok

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Did the juju/yoruba thread ever get off the ground? No results from my searches. I'd be very happy to get some 'if you like KSA you'll like this' recommendations.

giraffe, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link

no idea. the highlife/igbo (but not just that) thread has seen a significant revival in the past 24 hours however!

I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

https://www.elderscornermovie.com/

I liked this Elders Corner film doc on old school Nigerian musicians (which I have touted on other threads)

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

It has juju and afrobeat and highlife

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

Thanks. Will dig in. How would you define Sunny Ade's sound (and Chief Ebeneezer...)?

giraffe, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

Is it juju?

giraffe, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link

both juju, yes, though I find distinguishing between juju, highlife, and palm-wine fairly difficult, even more so once western/afrobeat influences start showing up. people with a better ear for rhythm & percussion patterns might be better at it than I am

rob, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

Thanks. I feel the same - I don't really have the vocabulary, which is why I asked. I associate highlife with The Bhundu Boys. Back in the 80s I found much more to enjoy in the complex rhythms of Sunny Ade. I didn't know that palm-wine was a genre.

giraffe, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

never started it, will think about doing that this week, or go ahead and make one yourself!

budo jeru, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:16 (one year ago) link

The Bhundu Boys ? That's an interesting confusion. The rhythms are very different. I guess it shows how unknown the Zimbabwean body of music remains.
Palm wine music is more traditional. Juju is more hypnotic and celebratory. Highlife is more funky and melancholic and has rumba-style guitar.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 10:01 (one year ago) link

I mentioned the Bhundu Boys only because we were talking about different threads on ILM and how some juju had somehow made it onto the highlife thread. I then noticed there was some discussion above about having a devoted thread, which I've since started.

giraffe, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 10:05 (one year ago) link


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