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Donna Summer - I Feel Love

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Anything by Thomas Koner
Similarly anything by Lull
Brian Eno's On Land

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link

???

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link

my rough guide

― willem (willem), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Secret Machines--"Nowhere Again" and "Now Here Is Nowhere." Live though they don't do it--Bonham circa Zep IV song one through the encore.

― kaiser motorik, Monday, 14 February 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Tortoise - Djed (Don't know why that one didn't occur to me sooner!)

― M Carty (mj_c), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

That motorik beat is always accompanied by a spectral gauzey fade-in. YES.
(my examples do not all bear this out)
-- Alex in Doncaster (alex_fac...) (webmail), February 14th, 2005 2:21 PM. (link)

Like, for instance, "Silver Machine" Hawkwind?

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link

most things Hamish Kilgour drums on. The Clean's 'Vehicle' is the same beat at varying speeds for the whole record. pretty much, anyway.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Jagz Kooner productions and remixes.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link

mark otm about hawkwind - their studio stuff esp has some crisp clean motorik, while the space ritual stuff is some hairier/messier kraut-esque drumming. god i fucking love hawkwind.

― peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a track near the end of Dusk at Cubist Castle (I think it's the title track) that fits the bill.

― sleep (sleep), Monday, 14 February 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link

hawkwind - opa loka. the most motorik non kraut record ever.

whitey - two face.

spencer otm about jagz kooner.

― stirmonster, Monday, 14 February 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait! This is getting too scattered! Related but scattered! Definition time!

― don, Monday, 14 February 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a pretty rigid idea of motorik, so here goes:

4/4 time, basic rock bet, with snare on 2 & 4, HOWEVER, bass drum is playing exactly what the hi-hat does (ie, on each eighth note), except on the beats where the snare hits. It looks like this

1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
h h h h h h h h
. . s . . . s .
b b . b b b . b

This is the beat of many Neu songs, including "Hallogallo". I think the bass drum playing on all those eigth notes is what separates motorik from a lot of other regular old 4/4 rock beats (fast, driving or otherwise).

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link

whoa, that looked a lot better pre-post.

basically, the b's are supposed to line up w/the h's, and the s's are on 2 and 4. I hate the internet!

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Pumpkins "1979" does not fit, right?

― Aaron A., Monday, 14 February 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

not according to the definition I'm using above. It almost does, but in the drum figure of "1979", there's a syncopation pattern that de-motorikizes it (and also makes two bars have to pass before completing the figure). One of the things about motorik that makes it "motorik" (or robotic) is that each measure is identical, it doesn't take more than one measure to complete the whole pattern.

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.thebigcity.co.nz/images/motorik.gif

― chris andrews (fraew), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link

hows that dleone

― chris andrews (fraew), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link

nice. i wasn't sure at first, but that fits my mental definition.

― sleep (sleep), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link

from what i can hear the kick falls on every 8th note, including the 2 and 4. just straight ahead pounding. with various snare fills and a crash or two every 4 or 8 measures off that.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

"Drums On Fire" - Broadcast

― losingsoul, Monday, 14 February 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Jefferson Starship, "Find Your Way Back" (the end of the song)

― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link

"For Kate I Wait" - Ariel Pink (done with mouth)

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Telstar Ponies - Lugengeschichte or whatever the heck it was called has this beat but with added flourishes. Basically any non-Deutsche indie song circa 1994-95 with a German title.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 09:11 (nineteen years ago) link

'Sleep The Clock Around' - Belle & Sebastian

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 09:17 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...

"Mongoloid" by DEVO. ?

― Helltime Product Oh, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:07 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

post more!

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 July 2006 14:54 (seventeen years ago) link

The Glitter Band is the closest I've ever heard, so much so that I'm pretty sure La Dusseldorf ripped them off

― ¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Quite a lot of bubblegum too, e.g., "Gimme Gimme Good Lovin'" by Crazy Elephant

― ¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

whitey - two face

yes this is a great one.

― hella somethin' Gwen Stefani pantwork (haitch), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

OOIOO - BE SURE TO LOOP
OOIOO - OIZUMIO

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Omoide Hatoba - White Hour

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Boredoms - Super Roots 7 (Boriginal)

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't remember which song it is, but one of the tracks offa Glenn Branca's Ascension certainly counts. It might be "Lesson #2."

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Lesson #1 counts

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Lesson #2 sounds like shit Sonic Youth

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

that fantastic instrumental track on die sterne's 'posen' album, the name of which i've forgotten right now.

wow, this thread has given me much food for thought!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 7 July 2006 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Holger Hiller, Das Feuer

― ¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 7 July 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

more motorik/'apache' (heh) talk: motorik

― hella somethin' Gwen Stefani pantwork (haitch), Friday, 7 July 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

oh here it is, it's Glenn Branca's "Light Field (In Consonance)" off of Ascension.

Yeah, the Lesson #2 sounds like shit.

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 July 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Schneider TM opens his new album with a motorik diddy called "More Time" (also released as a single last year).

― willem -- (willem), Friday, 7 July 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

also, "Now We Know" and esp. "Ridin'" from Pharoah Overlord's IV must be heard.

― willem -- (willem), Friday, 7 July 2006 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I would like to point out that the original reason I posted this question was that I was making a mix CDR700MBGO! for my wife to listen to as she gave birth. (Apparently the kid liked it; he came right out to hear better.)

― Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 7 July 2006 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link

motorik cd to pop the baby out faster = genius

― jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Friday, 7 July 2006 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Joy Division "Isolation"

― Maltodextrin (Maltodextrin), Saturday, 8 July 2006 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder how Burundi drums would've affected the whole process

― Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Saturday, 8 July 2006 01:20 (seventeen years ago) link

here's Dominique's explanation of motorik re-formatted:

1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
h h h h h h h h
. . s . . . s .
b b . b b b . b

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 8 July 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Bardo Pond - Inside

― JMMMusic (Jimmy M), Saturday, 8 July 2006 02:14 (seventeen years ago) link

snapper - everything (at least on the e.p. and "shotgun blossom")

― naturemorte (naturemorte), Saturday, 8 July 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

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Chrisma, "C Rock". Not sure this has a motorik beat as such but is nonetheless a Neu! ripoff blatant enough to make Stereolab blush.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0detsfxKN3Q

― (includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 January 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu7xWwMZBFM

― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 5 June 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link

https://youtu.be/vK31yVrXz84

― The little engine that choogled (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 14 June 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

clean-related, here's one of my absolute favorite david kilgour jams with the heavy eights, "waveboarder," a total surf motorik cruiser.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gov24YPRDYM

and to reiterate something i posted years ago, the clean's vehicle is, with the exception of the 2 side-ending acoustic tracks, straight motorik joy.

― andrew m., Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

replacing a dead link from a few years ago:

blizzard, "keep a knockin'/get back/etc."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRUkLnsRWBc

― andrew m., Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

Great call on that David Kilgour album, my absolute favorite from him precisely because of that motorik groove!

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

Pulls on to the autobahn nearly three minutes in but then you get those Rother wakka wakkas so you know it's proper, and when the alternating Battlestar Galactica riffs hit you must salute.

https://howlinbananarecords.bandcamp.com/track/trapezohedron

― Basil Ker-ching (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

help me find a thread for this but debut album Fugue State (2022) by Swedish "ambient blues" outfit Weils is simply fantastic, album opener "To Apeiron" 23 minutes of slow-motorik bliss:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8x7m9D80To

― corrs unplugged, Friday, 9 February 2024 10:28 (two months ago) link

excellent, extremely my kind of thing

― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 9 February 2024 10:40 (two months ago) link

Lewsberg are a band from Rotterdam whose sound alternates between early VU and spaced-out motorik jams and somehow never sound like "What Goes On":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef9j4AxEhe8

― henry s, Friday, 9 February 2024 13:16 (two months ago) link

Heh, mebbe that yin is a wee bit reminiscent of “The Gift.”

― Al Green Explores Your Mind Gardens (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 February 2024 14:30 (two months ago) link

Corrs - thanks for that Weils heads-up. Extremely my thing!

― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 09:54 (two months ago) link

Metabolist 'Alien on Sunday' - beautifully minimalist take on the beat, no fills, no flourishes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOwm-HYfVwA

― atonar, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 13:25 (two months ago) link

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