Jimmy Eat World - Classic or Dud?

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are you referring to "i fought the law?" you think those songs sound the same?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link

is it jew by accident or was it intentional?
Ya, they got together - distraught over the fact their label wasn't kosher with them naming the band "JEW" (already a compromise over their previous name "Jimmy Jew and the Hebrews") - and came up with "Jimmy Eat World" instead.

These guys went the same way as The Promise Ring for me. I had them on a pedestal and then they blew it. All their songs sound too similar now and they seem to have replaced their authenticity with production.

Pre Bleed American - Classic
Overall - DUD

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

(x-post)
i think they sound the same in the same way that "mystery train" and the carter family's "worried man blues" sound the same. steal a concept here, steal some words there, and your own chords, and voila! i have no problem with this. but i think the debt is plain as day.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

*add* your own chords, i mean.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

oh it's just appropriation, not stealing.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i agree. i also think that appropriation involves stealing. and i think it's ok. necessary, in fact.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

i know i am just joshin'.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Trick Daddy stole "Let's Go" from Apples In Stereo!

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I think "The Middle" is a fantastic single. I knew a handful of people in college who used to big-up them Clarity-era, and who act all disappointed by them "selling out," but I never heard that record much, so I guess I don't care. I'll have to hear "Sweetness" and "Lucky Denver Mint" to see if I like them as much as "The Middle."

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus, their acronym is JEW. That's funny!

(from one of Ryan Pitchfork's lowest moments)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link

they always sounded like sell-out dumbass raspheads to me (which doesn't mean they can't make a good single or five). "Lucky Denver Mint" sounds MORE like Jamie Walters than "The Middle" does, and that's on Clarity!

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't get how someone can give Bleed American a 3 and Source Tags & Codes a 10.

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

unless you're just gaga about timpani.

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

"The Authority Song" is about how the singer is in a bar and wants to hear "The Authority Song," so he plays it on the jukebox.

I think "Praise Chorus" is the one that cites the other lyrics -- "Crimson and Clover"; The first song from "Nothing Feels Good" by The Promise Ring; "Don't Let's Start" by They Might be Giants.

Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, it's 'praise chorus'.

kickstart my rock'n'roll heart (cis), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link

My lunch with Rivers Cuomo was totally akward

tell us more!

-- chaki in charge (chaki.tim...), January 6th, 2005.

Mostly he just talked about how he really liked meditation, and a bit about Boston bands that were around when he first went to school. Nice enough guy, just impossible to get him to say anything really. Shy in a way that unnerves.

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Friday, 7 January 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link

i have never heard these guys and they may be fantastic for all i know... but i do have a certain association in my mind, so i have to say i was pretty surprised to click on this thread and find out that it was not a joke.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

What is your association?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link

like a blink182 version of emo (which i don't know if i ever liked a band that would be appropriately termed emo... i liked at the drive in to a point, and i liked a sunny day real estate song once... and i've heard people call radiohead emo, but that doesn't seem right.)

firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I would loveit if someone would explain to me what JEW has to do with emo. I keep reading or hearing that, but if this band is emo then what band isn't emo? It sounds like good ol' straight-ahead guitar-pop to me -- a good thing.

There's lots that I like about JEW, and Bleed American was a really good (pop) album. So was Clarity, for that matter. Futures -- I've listened to it through 3-4 times. The more attention I'm paying, the better it sounds; lots of craft there, and nice touches. But five minutes after the disc ends I can't remember a single song on it. (I probably heard Pain on the radio 5 times before I focused on what it was. And I still can't remember what it sounds like.) That's not a good thing.

These guys totally screwed themselves by waiting too long to sell something new after Bleed American finally took off.

Vornado (Vornado), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I would loveit if someone would explain to me what JEW has to do with emo.
The only thing not emo about them is the fact they haven't broken up.
How can you hear that whiney voice and not think it's emo???

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 8 January 2005 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't agree. Using the guy from Dashboard Confessional's whiny voice as a baseline point, I'd say the guy from Jimmy Eat World only rates about 50% emo-whiny.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Saturday, 8 January 2005 05:26 (nineteen years ago) link

listen to static prevails.

they used to do splits with christie front drive and the like. definitely a part of that "midwestern" emo sound. shimmering arpeggiated indie rock with a boner for loud/soft dynamics.

i don't want to get into an emo thing. go to fourfa.com

rob mackey (mackey), Saturday, 8 January 2005 07:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Using the guy from Dashboard Confessional's whiny voice as a baseline point
That's hardly fair!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link

what the fuck does dashboard confessional have to do with ordination of aaron or moss icon? today's "emo" has no musical connection to yesterday's emo. the term really should have died with sunny day and mineral. maybe even before.

rob mackey (mackey), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link

"i don't want to get into an emo thing"

DJ Mencap0))), Saturday, 8 January 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

thank you, mencap. sometimes i need to be pulled back.

rob mackey (mackey), Saturday, 8 January 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

new record comes out june 11

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BG8JiH4CEAEFFAX.jpg:large

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Yay, but wtf is with that cover?

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

marry poppins themed

markers, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

still better than the new Yeah Yeah Yeahs cover.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

and here's a new song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gnjeNqrG3w

sounds pretty good imo

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link

I agree, that sounds very promising!

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 11 April 2013 00:43 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

there was some awful "tweet to unlock the stream" gimmick going on but it seems you can listen to the new record without advertising it now http://damage.jimmyeatworld.com/

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 3 June 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

record is great btw

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 3 June 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

JIMMY EAT WORLD ANNOUNCES FUTURES
10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY HEADLINE TOUR
BAND CONFIRMS VINYL REISSUES
(PRE-ORDER AVAILABLE NOW)
STATIC PREVAILS, CLARITY, FUTURES TO BE REISSUED ON 180G COLORED VINYL


Santa Monica, CA - June 24th, 2014 - Jimmy Eat World has announced a fall North American headlining tour to commemorate the 10-year anniversary of their lauded album, Futures. Slated to kick off October 2nd at the Ventura Theater, the band will perform their 2004 release from front to back.

A listing of confirmed dates can be found below. Fan presales to begin Thursday, June 26th at 10am (local time), with public on sales commencing Friday also at 10am (local time). Additional dates to be announced soon.

Visit jimmyeatworld.com/tour for further details.

Jimmy Eat World will also reissue three titles on double LP via Universal Music Enterprises in partnership with SRCvinyl. Static Prevails will be released on August 19th, Clarity on September 2nd and Futures on September 30th. Remastered from the highest quality 16-bit/44.1 khz recording and cut as 33 1/3 RPM, each LP contains bonus song(s). Pressed by Pallas, in Germany, and mastered for the reissues by Kevin Gray.

All three titles are available for pre-order now at: http://shop.jimmyeatworld.com/ and www.srcvinyl.com. An exclusive pre-order bundle is available via Jimmy Eat World's website. In this bundle, fans will find a limited edition numbered t-shirt and LP, for each of the titles. The LPs will be for sale at all major and independent retail outlets in the US and Canada.

Pumped about the vinyl reissues, but why no Bleed American?

You know something? He *did* say "well, yeah" a lot. (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:44 (nine years ago) link

Okay I'm probably among the bigger mid-period Jimmy Eat World stan on this board, but jesus fuck not every album needs to be celebrated with an anniversary guys.

Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

i agree? but far as i can tell there are a ton of ppl who are all about futures

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link

unfortunately i don't think i'll get an invented anniversary tour

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link

fucking classic just for THE MIDDLE and its 1979-aping video. BLEED AMERICAN the song also geat. SWEETNESS might be their best song

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:28 (nine years ago) link

I don't get how someone can give Bleed American a 3 and Source Tags & Codes a 10.
― m1cc1o, Friday, January 7, 2005 12:49 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

SO FUCKING OTM

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:30 (nine years ago) link

DROP D CITY

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:30 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

once in a while I go through their whole discography and start thinking they're the best rock band ever

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

sooo ready for a new jimmy eat world record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5KiGB0fp3U

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link

what an awful album title
love them tho

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

Wasn't crazy about the first advance single, but I like this! Excited for the new record now.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link

Yup, same reaction here re: "Get Right" vs. this new one.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

I have decided that Futures is my favorite JEW album. Integrity Blues has higher highs but also 3-4 tracks I have no use for.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 April 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

fav overall?

Spottie, Monday, 17 April 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

clarity will basically never be supplanted as my fav, but integrity is prob my second favorite jew album at this point. it's def their dreamiest

for some reason i have found myself in a lot of conversations about this band lately (i didn't even bring them up!)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 April 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link

audio from the phoenix sessions has been gradually appearing on streaming services, futures and clarity so far. listening back to clarity this morning... it sounds so good

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 November 2021 15:15 (two years ago) link

our weakness is the same
we need poison sometimes

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 November 2021 15:16 (two years ago) link

is tomorrow just a day
like all the rest

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 November 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

attn: spottie!!!! the phoenix sessions have all been uploaded to youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ96wkcGOpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAlS5m2JKCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTBTkahIdvo

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 21:46 (two years ago) link

bless you, brad! will be watching these asap

Spottie, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 22:22 (two years ago) link

"Just Watch the Fireworks", wow.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 17 December 2021 01:37 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOWnhMxJMMk

yes!!!!!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 10 June 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

so consistent these guys

Spottie, Friday, 10 June 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

4:20 smoke weed listen to "just watch the fireworks"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 June 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SYFqlshllM

the core, the heart music

ivy., Tuesday, 2 January 2024 19:25 (three months ago) link

"The Middle" is a total ear worm.

The video is a bit of a headscratcher, although I suppose having bunches of young people in their underwear sounded like an easy sell.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 00:33 (three months ago) link

lol yeah, huge gap between the video concept and the band's image/song subject matter. but also very 00s.

thanks for posting the warped video, ivy! enjoyed that, and the blink set too

Roz, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 09:03 (three months ago) link

love that concert footage

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 4 January 2024 17:18 (three months ago) link


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