A thread for the Cure reissues

No, just to include the relevant period's tracks from Join The Dots on each of the the relevant reissues.

It's really very simple.

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But as has been noted, THEN you annoy the people who bought Join the Dots. Like me. ;-)

But as has been noted, you'd buy both anyway.

While I admire the Cure for being more thoughtful towards their fans (i.e that Greatest Hits album that came with a second CD of all the songs played acoustically), I hope 3IB has been remastered. In fact, SACD would be a huge gesture (even though I don't have an SACD player). In the case of remastering, it's a legit re-release since only, assumedly, the hard-core fans ("completists") are going to be interested in both remastering and demos or other extras.

As I've noted on other threads, it continues to astound me that, with the enormity of the bootleg market (as perpetuated by the Beatles' bootleggers), major labels continue to ignore the opportunity to fully exploit catalogs before they get thoroughly distributed by the likes of Bit Torrent and other P2P mechanisms. The Cure B-sides had been circulating in amateur format for at least 3 years before JTD came out, and trading B-sides by completists was one of the first things to be truly exploited by the advent of the home CDR. I assume, and hope, that the increase of electronic distribution will influence labels to get off their asses and get the filthy lucre while they can still charge for it.

If they had not been so clear about how the set wouldn't be duplicated on the reissues, I don't know about that.

But it's OK for them to have made you fork-out for a box-set as well as all the reissues, when there was more than enough empty space left on those reissues to have included all the tracks on the box-set?

We clearly see things differently!

But your greater point--why not just have one huge box set for the completists that has ALL unreleased/rarities and then just reissue the originals straight up (and remastered)--seems valid. Personally, I like revisiting the original with relevant demos in one package a la 3IB or the way they are doing the Pavement reissues. Hell, I'd be grateful if the f*ckers who've re-released 18 versions of the Who's "Tommy" had done as such.

Indeed. Or better still, a box set which is also available as a series of individual albums; maybe arranged so that each one can be seen as a companion disc to each of the original albums.

Neither do I particularly - but actually there is just one additional track on the 'album' disc of 3IB isn't there? What's that all about?

Hmmmm. They haven't given / found a title* to that little bit of echoing footsteps and the demonic laugh at the end of the album, have they?

[* not that they gave a title to any of the tracks on the version of the album I've got!]

It's on my vinyl copy of BDC, which I notice is French. Was it not on the UK issue of BDC. (I know that's not why you're pissed off, but I was just wondering).

8. Boys Don't Cry (Chestnut Studio Demo 5/78)
9. It's Not You (Chestnut Studio Demo 5/78)
10. 10:15 Saturday Night (Chestnut Studio Demo 5/78)
11. Fire In Cairo (Chestnut Studio Demo 5/78)

alone. The Chestnut tapes are much harder and more energetic than what ended up on TIB, the best document of Smith's admittedly naive teen angst. TIB is just so sonically deflated; it's a "charming" and fairly unique sound, and it works in places ("Cairo", "TIB" and especially "Accuracy"), but the early stuff is compositionally really patchy (every time I look at the tracklist for TIB I see fewer and fewer gems).

Chris Parry had referred to "Jumping Someone Else's Train" as a swan song for Dempsey at one point; it works as a condensed example of what the Cure accomplished in the "trad" sphere, before Gallup joined and Smith started expressing himself.

There wasn't a UK issue of BDC was there? BDC was the US (& elsewhere?) version of 3IB.

What a dillema!

I feel the need to catch-up, but the wait seems excruciating.

Will he also re-release Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me?...That, and the 3IB re-release are next on my list.

I wish I'd have seen this when you posted it, Ned. I totally could have ruined the surprise for you. Sadly, I seem to have well over half of the rare shit they've stuck on the reissues so far.

I notice that Bob was prudent enough to leave off 'See The Children', thank god.

See now putting that on it would have kicked ass! I'd love to own that song on CD.

Will he also re-release Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me?

I suppose it's kind of a no-brainer so I'm assuming it will be the case, but I'm really looking forward to "Hey You" on CD. It's one of my favorite songs on that record which I don't even listen to all that often because I'm too lazy to break out the vinyl for stuff I also own on CD.

A (slightly) extended version of "Hey You!!!" is on Join The Dots CD2.

Ned, d'you know where "The Weedy Burton" got its name from?

I took great pleasure in playing "How Beautiful You Are" very loudly last night for the first time in years, and was shamefully proud of the fact that I seemed to know every last word. If only I could remember, y'know, important stuff...

I'm looking forward to 17 Seconds. Anyone know when this will be? I really have no idea what outtakes there are from this era, although at the time I heard some VERY different versions of the songs with different lyrics on a bootleg that was relatively easy to get in the early 80s. Can't recall the name.

This early Cure action led me to play a selection of the later albums from KMKMKM onwards at the weekend. Hmmm - what a rubbish band they became! How can anyone stand stuff like Fascination Street. Soooo boring.

oh shiiiiiiiiit! INCOMING! (it's a Nedbomb...)

The same deep water as you > Plainsong > Pictures of you > Lovesong > Disintegration > Untitled > Fascination street > Last dance > Lullaby > Prayers for rain > Homesick > Closedown

Plainsong
The Same Deep Water As You
Pictures Of You
Disintegration
Lovesong
Lullaby
Fascination Street
Untitled
Last Dance
Homesick
Closedown
Prayer For Rain

Oh no, I love it! It's just not the best song on the album. :-)

Noooooooooooooo!!! "So What" is genius!

"Meat Hook," fine. I'm with you there.

See also this which is related though not completely serious.

TRACK DETAILS
OF THE NEXT ROUND OF RE-MASTERED RE-RELEASES - OUT IN APRIL...

THE CURE
SEVENTEEN SECONDS
2 CD SET
COMPILED BY ROBERT SMITH

Digitally Remastered from the
Original Master Tapes

Features 15 tracks on CD for the very first time

Deluxe package contains a 20 page booklet
including sleevenotes and lyrics
with rare and previously unseen photographs

SEVENTEEN SECONDS: THE ORIGINAL ALBUM

01. A REFLECTION
02. PLAY FOR TODAY
03. SECRETS
04. IN YOUR HOUSE
05. THREE
06. THE FINAL SOUND
07. A FOREST
08. M
09. AT NIGHT
10. SEVENTEEN SECONDS

SEVENTEEN SECONDS: RARITIES 1979-1980

01. I'M A CULT HERO (vinyl single by CULT HERO)
02. I DIG YOU (vinyl single by CULT HERO)
03. ANOTHER JOURNEY BY TRAIN (home demo)
04. SECRETS (home demo)
05. SEVENTEEN SECONDS (live)
06. IN YOUR HOUSE (live)
07. THREE (alt studio mix)
08. I DIG YOU (CULT HERO live)
09. I'M A CULT HERO (CULT HERO live)
10. M (live)
11. THE FINAL SOUND (live)
12. A REFLECTION (live)
13. PLAY FOR TODAY (live)
14. AT NIGHT (live)
15. A FOREST (live)

*****

THE CURE
FAITH
2 CD SET
COMPILED BY ROBERT SMITH

Digitally Remastered from the
Original Master Tapes

Features 4 previously unreleased songs
and 15 tracks on CD for the very first time

Deluxe package contains a 20 page booklet
including sleevenotes and lyrics
with rare and previously unseen photographs

FAITH: THE ORIGINAL ALBUM

01. THE HOLY HOUR
02. PRIMARY
03. OTHER VOICES
04. ALL CATS ARE GREY
05. THE FUNERAL PARTY
06. DOUBT
07. THE DROWNING MAN
08. FAITH

09. CARNAGE VISORS

FAITH: RARITIES 1980-1981

01. FAITH (RS home demo)
02. DOUBT (RS home demo)
03. DROWNING (group home demo)
04. THE HOLY HOUR (group home demo)
05. PRIMARY (studio out-take)
06. GOING HOME TIME (studio out-take)
07.THE VIOLIN SONG (studio out-take)
08. A NORMAL STORY (studio out-take)
09. ALL CATS ARE GREY (live)
10. THE FUNERAL PARTY (live)
11. OTHER VOICES (live)
12. THE DROWNING MAN (live)
13. FAITH (live)
14. FOREVER (live)
15. CHARLOTTE SOMETIMES (single)

*****

THE CURE
PORNOGRAPHY
2 CD SET
COMPILED BY ROBERT SMITH

Digitally Remastered from the
Original Master Tapes

Features 5 previously unreleased songs
and 14 tracks on CD for the very first time

Deluxe package contains a 20 page booklet including
sleevenotes with rare and previously unseen photographs

PORNOGRAPHY: THE ORIGINAL ALBUM

01. ONE HUNDRED YEARS
02. A SHORT TERM EFFECT
03. THE HANGING GARDEN
04. SIAMESE TWINS
05. THE FIGUREHEAD
06. A STRANGE DAY
07. COLD
08. PORNOGRAPHY

PORNOGRAPHY: RARITIES 1981-1982

01. BREAK (group home demo)
02. DEMISE (studio demo)
03.TEMPTATION (studio demo)
04. THE FIGUREHEAD (studio demo)
05. THE HANGING GARDEN (studio demo)
06. ONE HUNDRED YEARS (studio demo)
07. AIRLOCK: THE SOUNDTRACK
08. COLD (live)
09. A STRANGE DAY (live)
10. PORNOGRAPHY (live)
11. ALL MINE (live)
12. A SHORT TERM EFFECT (live)
13. SIAMESE TWINS (live)
14. TEMPTATION TWO (aka lgtb) (RS studio demo)

Wow didn't even know that! Sucks Robert couldn't put his foot down, when he was making them so much money. "Elise" could've been a great fourth final single, à la "Pictures Of You".

Elise *was* the single

Elise was not the fourth final single

The reissue cemented my back-in-the-day opinion that “Apart” is a beast of a song and it made me happy to read Robert rediscovering it during the remastering process

The reissue cemented my back-in-the-day opinion that “Apart” is a beast of a song and it made me happy to read Robert rediscovering it during the remastering process

I completely agree. I've been rediscovering it myself these past few days and I like it better than back in the day. Very moving.

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I just got this bad boy in the mail.

Happy Happy Joy Joy

Still haven't received the vinyl or the cassette / cd bundle I had to order from two separate vendors. Hope they show up soon.

Wish 3CD set is currently $4 on Amazon at the moment. Mistake?

Don't see it. Gone?

Yeah, it's gone, now back up to $21. I knew it was a mistake.

Mystified why AMG has never bumped Wish from a 2.5 to something even slightly higher. The next three are all 3s.

― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 4 August 2022 22:32 (ten months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Aha, only just now realised they changed it to 4 in November (with new review).

Forgot to bump this thread instead -- following Show last year, Paris is coming back:

https://store.rhino.com/en/rhino-store/artists/the-cure/paris-cd/603497825103.html

(Presumably WMS next up, so the question is whether that or the new album actually comes out first.)