The Prodigy - Classic or Dud ?

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What about _XTRMNTR_? *runs and hides*

Dan Perry, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I said *MBV*, not the Bobby Gillespie Retirement Home for the Class of 1990.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What in gods name is wrong with Shoot Speed Kill Light? That's as good as anything on Loveless. And I er....love loveless.

Ronan, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You misunderstand me, taint nuthin wrong with it at all. I just want the real thing. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

PRML SCRM SXR! @# ! @#!

BBBY GLSSP = WNKR! @# ! @# !

Nrmn Phy, Monday, 28 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

thats because they miss Ae eaea (put in the consonants, duh)

gareth, Tuesday, 29 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two years pass...
I managed to get a copy of what I'm told is an extremely rare Prodigy documentary/live bootleg collection called Electronic Punks. After watching it let me just say that I have a new appreciation for the guys. There's a whole lot hysterical stuff, like Liam the morning after a rave waking up inside a suitcase, and out-take footage from the Poison video showing Keith and co posturing and just generally being the antethesis of the characters they portray.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Electronic Punks is excellent. i bought the VHS when it came out (it was an official release in the UK) tho i don't suppose it's ever made it onto DVD? i'm just amazed they had so much Super 8 footage laying around from the very beginning (but it makes sense as they were keen on making videos from the start). remember that it all dates from before 'Firestarter' when Keith was just a flaky Bezalike with only vague aspirations of touting himself as a punk image-wise.

Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:50 (nineteen years ago) link

also at the beginning and end of it you get to hear 'We Eat Rhythm' which is the track that would've closed Music For The Jilted Generation had Howlett been able to fit it on. More on that is in the accompanying bio by Linus Roache.

Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh it must've been because the guy I got it from was American, and he probably (rightfully) considered it rare.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link

One thing that the video made very clear to me was just how necessary Keith and Maxim were to their image. Liam just didn't have any presence whatsoever, and never would have made it in the way he did without those ridiculous poseurs.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 20 January 2005 12:57 (nineteen years ago) link

it should never have worked, i still don't know how it did.

Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 20 January 2005 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
"Mad" Keith, yesterday.

JoB (JoB), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Bad sight of the week.

I still thenk they are/were absolute rub.

I like what Tom says about the inner sleeve to "Jilted Generation" and just thinking about it made me laugh a little bit right now.

Is this the historick first instance of the ILM "random Googler", I wonder?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 16 May 2005 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, "Electronic Punks" is rare????? AWESOME I HAVE A RARITY

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 May 2005 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry mate: http://search.ebay.com/electronic-punks

JoB (JoB), Monday, 16 May 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Dreamcrusher.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 May 2005 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
the best of is called 'their law'. which wasn't a single, and wasn't really one OF their BEST.

N_RQ, Monday, 17 October 2005 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha ha, 'Linus Roache'. I am an idiot.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:09 (eighteen years ago) link

They are also of course classic for having the worst gatefold sleeves of the 90s - Experience was bad enough with the badly drawn hippie cyborg top trumps but Jilted Generation has one of the most terrible drawings of all time ever and I laugh like a drain every time I see it.

Hah! I love it. What's wrong with saying fuck the system?

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i will fuck the system... by listening to pwei and not washing....

N_RQ, Monday, 17 October 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

It was good at the time I guess, maybe a little bit embarassing these days.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:04 (eighteen years ago) link

It's because you grew up and the machinations of The Man overpowered your fragilistic spirit duh. YOU CAN NEVER WIN.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

The records are super duper fucking great, I've been listening to them a lot lately.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Prodigy are actually really good, i've realized. their albums just sound so MASSIVE and over the top.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

theyre easily the worst live act Ive ever seen in my life.

Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link

The art on the new album is so weird, full of newspaper cuttings like "Prodigy Banned!" etc, and "Stop This Devil Music".

It kind of makes you think, are they saying that the people who wanted to ban the Prodigy, over the years, are super-intelligent and hence they achieved something great by offending these people out of their seats.

Or are they saying, these people were stupid to try and ban us, they are in fact complete reactionary morons, in which case isn't their music kind of shit?

I don't really understand, but one thing seems clear, and that is that are openly and overtly announcing the importance of the reciprocal relationship they have with people who found/find them offensive, be it their fans or right wing American christians.

I mean I can understand a teenager buying into this, the Prodigy did used to seem kind of cool, but at this stage, and at the end of your career, are they trying to say "THE PRODIGY: WE OFFENDED MORONS, SOME OF WHOM HATED US AND OTHERS BOUGHT OUR RECORDS"

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Last week I (very briefly) met the man whose voice is sampled in "Voodoo People". However, I only found out yesterday it was him.

JoB (JoB), Monday, 17 October 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

The Prodigy should have stopped poncing around pretending to be a punk band and instead tried to release more than two great techno albums and two shit baggy albums (which came out 10 years too latE).

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Firestarter was the last great British number 1.

Doozer, Monday, 17 October 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

i was kind of astonished that 'Voodoo People' DIDN'T clear the dancefloor at Forget About The Sugar the other week!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Firestarter was the last great British number 1.

I hated Firestarter. Don't get me wrong, I liked the first two albums, but Firestarter was just plain shit. Making Keith Flint an icon was a crime against society.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

He certainly was a cunt, but it was the last number 1 to actually have a social impact and really rattle people who just happened to stumble across it on Top of the Pops.

Doozer, Monday, 17 October 2005 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I did find it weird the number of people who noticed them for the first time then. It's not like they were obscure before that - they'd been having big (if not no.1) hits for nearly five years.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

i knew this girl in college who was terrified of insects and crustaceans so one time i waved the fat of the land in her face because of the terrifying crab ATTACKING the camera, hoping it would elicit a panicked reaction. didn't work.

gear (gear), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

He certainly was a cunt, but it was the last number 1 to actually have a social impact and really rattle people who just happened to stumble across it on Top of the Pops.

No, that was Eamon.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Except it didn't because they bleeped all the f-words out.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Also no number one record has had a social impact.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:05 (eighteen years ago) link

except maybe Rock Around The Clock.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw Their Law on sale in Reckless for £7.99 on Friday. I suppose that's a good indication of how well it'll sell.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the problem is that if you hunt around you can find all their previous album for about £5 each, so what's the point in a best-of?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:23 (eighteen years ago) link

It's the Pulp/Verve/Lennon/New Order/Leftfield problem again!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:24 (eighteen years ago) link

haha leftfield and their TWO albums -> ONE best of.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Quite. On the subject of best-ofs, has anyone got the Young Gods and/or Screaming Trees ones? Are they worth investing in?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:31 (eighteen years ago) link

The thing is, 'Leftism' would've really benefitted from being remastered, beefed up sonically and possibly packaged with some new remixes.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:33 (eighteen years ago) link

but that would mean buying it again, steve.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:37 (eighteen years ago) link

if i want to beef things up, i reach for my graphic equalizer.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link

The Leftfield argument applies equally to the Young Gods, except that the first two YG albums were great and the rest were rub. You're much better seeking out The Young Gods and L'Eau Rouge in their own right.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

lol @ downloading remastered Leftism at 128kbps

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"128kbps" what are these!!??

god i really need to learn about this stuff.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, the Sub Focus remix of Smack My Bitch Up (from 2005) goes in hard.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:05 (two years ago) link

All these years later mind a bit blown by Jeff Mills having a credit on 'Warriors Dance' because of the 'Take Me Away' sample. I never realised he was part of Final Cut.

nashwan, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:21 (two years ago) link

best post-98 Prodigy: excluding the Dirtchamber mix, Howlett's own remix of You Will Be Under My Wheels

nashwan, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:24 (two years ago) link

Breezeblock mix was ‘98 so that counts imo

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 09:57 (two years ago) link

forgot about this (pre-98 but still great)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lEtgbT8v4k

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:42 (two years ago) link

Man, Climbatize is easily one of the best tracks on FOTL. Serial Thrilla is the worst.

I had a listen to 3 Kilos off of Jilted earlier - so good, and nothing like how they usually sound. They were great at doing those more chilled, funky tracks and it's strange they didn't do more of them

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 11:46 (two years ago) link

DJP, do a best prodigy tracks from 1998 onward

off the top of my head without relistening and without digging into remixes (because tbh I haven't heard a bunch of them yet, I've mostly just rattled around the albums)

Girls
Get Up Get Off
Hotride
You'll Be Under My Wheels
Omen
Take Me To The Hospital
Warrior's Dance
World's On Fire
The Day Is My Enemy
(there was another track off of The Day Is My Enemy that I REALLY liked but of course I can't remember it now)

I don't know No Tourists well enough to pick any tracks off of it

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:35 (two years ago) link

Cheers, I've whacked those into a playlist with a couple of No Tourists tracks

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6EVnNNVYCizndzOBXdMn7c?si=8fa33b4a3b034dfc

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link

btw I left Stand Up off my list; really Invaders Must Die is a great album, a lot better overall than Fat Of The Land

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:21 (two years ago) link

oh also Wake Up Call goes pretty hard

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

i love the prodigy vs dubstep era.
the productions levels finally met their needs.
the 2nd cd that came with the special edition of 'invaders must die', proved the point for me.
for all the classics, i have always chosen the recent material when in the mood purely cos of the insane sonics.
and 'no tourists' is so much fun.
even though it totally sonically references their history (pretty sure that liam acknowledged this at the time of its release).

mark e, Thursday, 10 June 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link

I agree, individually these newer songs are all pretty impressive sound-wise, but over a whole album it gets really hard to listen to. Then again, I’m too old.

Siegbran, Thursday, 10 June 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link

yeah, cos of this thread just listened to 'no tourists' again, and absolutely love it.
a definite case of 'all killer no filler'.
the fact it's a short album means you don't get time to become bored.
yeah, its a retread of well worn prodigy tropes, but it totally works for me.

mark e, Friday, 11 June 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link


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